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#1 CoolerUK

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:39

Hi all,

 

this is not really my area so I wanted to ask some for some advice about whether or not these costs are about right because I have been asked to research if we can get a better deal.

 

As it stands the client has 3 commercial websites which combined make about 30-50 transactions a month (steadily growing), product catalogue of about 160 items across the 3 sites

 

Cost breakdown is as follows

 

Web/application server - £350 a month

Database server - £350 a month

Image server - £350 a month

Bandwidth Provision - £180 per month for 10mb/s

Firewall and Snapshot Back Ups - inclusive

 

total - £1230 per month

 

3 virtual machines implemended to support all the sites

 

 

Basically I have been tasked at trying to find a better deal and wondered if we are being 'rinsed' at the moment or if that figure looks reasonable?

 

Many thanks in advance.




#2 Kami-

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:25

Absolutely rinsed is all I can say.



#3 b4zzy

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:26

I think you've been rinsed - its way overpriced. 30 - 50 transactions a month? How busy is your site that you need three separate servers at £350 each? Do they have the same spec? Why would you need the same spec for all three if one is just an image server?

 

£180 for bandwidth? Really? How much are you transferring?

 

You've seriously been ripped off.



#4 philcruicks

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:30

Yeah, take a look at Azure or other cloud offerings, nice thing with them if the business is growing is that you can easily scale the servers up as they grow.



#5 1ON

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:39

Two recommendations,

 

A company like Exponential-e, http://www.exponential-e.com/. Cloud offering is UK based, VMware, HP Blade, EMC storage.

 

Or,

 

Microsoft Azure

 

PM me if you have any questions.



#6 +Nik L

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:39

Having built and hosted a major UK website that took well over 300 transactions per day - someone is making of money off of you :(



#7 Uplift

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:40

Transactions don't really mean anything in regards to performance and bandwidth.. how many hits does it get? how many concurrent users? how many hits do you want or are you aiming for? (i.e how scalable do you need it to be?)

 

How big are the sites? wtf is an image server? and why does it require £350/month you could get on a CDN for a fraction of the cost and serve images from there...

 

Your not being rinsed, you are being absolutely and completely ripped off and anyone who has recommended this to you needs shooting, if the guy/company your paying recommended this to you this then say no more... always seek independent advice when there is this much money up in the air.

 

To put things into perspective for you: i have a website with over 25,000 hits month, in it's peak days it was getting 50,000 hits month, i run it on a £85/month server.



#8 +Nik L

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:56

Transactions don't really mean anything in regards to performance and bandwidth

 

Agree and disagree.  number of transactions can often be scaled up (assuming per x visits = 1 sale) to hits.



#9 +Seahorsepip

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 20:38

Those prices are nuts you can even setup your own high end servers for these prices and rent a place at a server park and that would be probably cheaper lol



#10 primexx

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 04:00

well the thing that really jumps out is why the heck do you need three separate servers for that?



#11 Kami-

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:35

Those prices are nuts you can even setup your own high end servers for these prices and rent a place at a server park and that would be probably cheaper lol

Off-topic: lol at 'server park', totally had a mental image of an amusement park based on servers; I think the term you meant to use was 'Data Center' but I won't hold it against you!



#12 Uplift

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:42

Server park is definitely more fun, lets stick with that.



#13 threetonesun

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:48

If 30 - 50 is shorthand for 30,000 - 50,000, you're still getting hosed.



#14 +Seahorsepip

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 21:17

Off-topic: lol at 'server park', totally had a mental image of an amusement park based on servers; I think the term you meant to use was 'Data Center' but I won't hold it against you!

haha  :rofl:



#15 Shadowzz

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 21:22

You are being completely ripped off.

Even if you get 50.000 hits, you don't need a 350USD server, not by far.

Just a simple search at a good hoster has servers capable of handling well over 50.000 hits per day for as low as 80bucks a month.

Get 5 of em, just for the hell of it and you're still far cheaper then this rip off solution you've been offered.





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