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#16 corrosive23

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:52

Exactly, I want the polish & wizards, and finish in an OS.  I dont want it to look like something one person did in his garage one summer.

A terminal ???  really ?  Is this the 80s ?
 
Technology is supposed to make things easier - how is going back to having to use terminal making things easier ?
 
And before anyone says "I never/rarely use terminal for anything" - stop kidding yourself

With that being said, I do like some things of Linux.... its just not ready for prime time.  I eagerly wait till it is - will be nice.

I can dop many things faster and easier in the terminal. If you wanted for example to sort multiple pictures based on size or exif date, resize them, rename them, and then send them to another drive, using the terminal is faster. One line and all that could be acclompised, compared to what, 20-30 mouse clicks?


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:27

A terminal ???  really ?  Is this the 80s ?

 

Technology is supposed to make things easier - how is going back to having to use terminal making things easier ?

 

And before anyone says "I never/rarely use terminal for anything" - stop kidding yourself

I am curious as to how often you feel you are forced to use the terminal and for what purpose. For friendly Linux distros such as Ubuntu, using the terminal should be rare. If it isn't, then that should be investigated. Even with Arch Linux, I use the terminal almost exclusively for running pacman (the package manager). I don't use the terminal in my daily routine (web surfing, videos, gaming, etc).



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:19

and here we go 



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 07:43

I too am using the terminal for many tasks. Be it on Linux, OS X or even Windows (PowerShell ftw). 

 

The fact that you don't like a technology doesn't make it obsolete, T3X4S...



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:35

I really like Ubuntu, but for me, Unity is a deal breaker.  Luckily there are many different variants so you can still get the best of Ubuntu without having to use Unity.  Personally I like Ubuntu Gnome and Elementary OS.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:56

Every year, I try to play nice with linux.  Usually floating between mint, kubuntu, or something that was recommended (Zorin)

I honestly try to be fair, but ALWAYS get discouraged as something ALWAYS needs a terminal - that tells me they havent done crap for bringing it to the masses...

Maybe next year.


not a chance... I am thinking 5-10 years

 

I kind of feel the same about command line/terminal stuff too, but can usually find a way around it or even find the command to do it!

 

Never have really liked any version of Ubuntu though. Good distro for a noob though. Feels totally like bloatware, to me!



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 14:14

Why not a ribbon interface instead?

Same question to you as in the OS X section: Why do you want every OS to work like Windows? Just use Windows then...



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 14:31

Same question to you as in the OS X section: Why do you want every OS to work like Windows? Just use Windows then...

The problem is.. some people (myself included) feel like windows is starting to lock-down a lot more.  They are removing some customization and focusing on touch-centric devices.  Yes windows 7 is great, windows 8.. is getting better... but for some many linux DE's (for me it's cinnamon) have the old xp/7 combined feel.  Menus, hidden options, small text labels, etc.  No big screen filling boxes, no need for full screen or everything to be big enough for touch.

 

For me I use windows over linux.. however if the original vision for windows 8 (touch) continues to be pushed to the point where the desktop is no longer.. then I will have to either use an older/unsecure version of windows.. or I could move to linux which has plenty of choice and user control.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 14:40

Exactly, I want the polish & wizards, and finish in an OS.  I dont want it to look like something one person did in his garage one summer.

A terminal ???  really ?  Is this the 80s ?

 

Technology is supposed to make things easier - how is going back to having to use terminal making things easier ?

 

And before anyone says "I never/rarely use terminal for anything" - stop kidding yourself

With that being said, I do like some things of Linux.... its just not ready for prime time.  I eagerly wait till it is - will be nice.

 

Well terminals are actually quite important for power users (that being the keyword here). This is why Windows actually has 2 of them (the old cmd and PowerShell which is quite nice). I think terminals are important and always will be but there always needs to be a full fledged alternative not requiring any commands to be executed. With Windows 8 and it's touch screen simplicity and Android and iOS I don't see Linux having any chance even in 20 years the way things have been going the last 20 years up until today....



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 14:54

I've gotten fed up with Unity, Gnome 3 and Gnome classic at work. Seemed like something was always crashing or hanging. I've switched to Xfce at work and it's been very good so far.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 14:55

The CLI is very powerful, Microsoft knows this hence creating powershell.  The difference is in Windows it's optional. In Linux, at some stage, you're being forced to use it to resolve an issue.

Linux I think has come a long way since Ubuntu hit the scene.  As much as people say it's bloated you have to admire what it's done for the OS's popularity.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 14:58

Try doing ssh on a headless server without the terminal.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 15:14

It's hard to explain but I think the problem with Linux is that it feels like Linux. The UI screams "I'm in Linux" ... I know all the other OS's scream their own name, but for some reason the feeling of Linux is just meh.

 

I think it is the lack of polish and consistency. I mean, inconsistencies have been present in Windows for a very long time, but still... you don't see things like 'This option changes how Ubuntu starts up' when you're using Debian or some other distribution.

 

In my view the main problem is that things are built to support many different architectures, GUIs, distributions, libraries, and so on... and in the end you get something that tries to do too many things, doesn't really do a good job, and feels like something a few students have done in their spare time. Note here, I am talking about the user-facing aspects of the distributions, and this is in no way a post to bash Linux.

 

Just like how everyone is using Linux as the kernel, so should, in my view, everybody get together and work on making a UI with a consistent look and feel, get that to a stable version, and then branch out by adding features / making modifications like transparent-like UI, old-style UI, whatever UI.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 15:29

Just like how everyone is using Linux as the kernel, so should, in my view, everybody get together and work on making a UI with a consistent look and feel, get that to a stable version, and then branch out by adding features / making modifications like transparent-like UI, old-style UI, whatever UI.

 

Don't they already?



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 15:40

Don't they already?

 

Don't have much experience with diving deep into the architecture. But what would that common system be, the window manager? Because it certainly feels like there are a bunch of window managers, GUIs, visual styles, themes, and that they don't connect together to feel like one cohesive thing.

 

In any case, I find Windows and OSX to be more consistent. Linux distributions on the other hand feel like their parts have been hacked together to work, with the sense that if you touch them, the whole thing will fall apart. Maybe I am wrong, maybe the code is actually a lot better than OSX or Windows and works correctly, but it certainly doesn't feel like that. That is what I have from my limited use.