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Nik Louch

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I am considering buying a new PC.  I am currently running a C2D with 8gb ram and an "average for the time" graphics card - as I am not a gamer.

 

I'm looking at a new haswell i5, 16gb, etc - and wondering how far the iris graphics will take me.  I am looking to maybe get into gaming, Far Cry games look fun, etc.

 

Any comments?

 

Otherwise, what's a sensible graphics card?  I don't want anything noisy, I want a small format PC that's quiet.  I don't need/want bleeding edge at all.

 

Thanks

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Why you need low profile? Is your case small? You do realize you need a new board, right?

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iris pro 5200? I would say its very comparable to a gt 740m-750m in performance.

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Why you need low profile? Is your case small? You do realize you need a new board, right?

 

I am building a new pc, and I never said low profile anywhere, I have a preference for a small PC.  Possibly a NUC is the graphics are sufficient.

 

iris pro 5200? I would say its very comparable to a gt 740m-750m in performance.

 

Sorry, I have never followed graphics card numerics.  What does that mean in real world terms?

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What does that mean in real world terms?

Acceptable performance for most games.

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I am building a new pc, and I never said low profile anywhere, I have a preference for a small PC.  Possibly a NUC is the graphics are sufficient.

 

Sorry, I have never followed graphics card numerics.  What does that mean in real world terms?

oh, if youre building the pc yourself, then you cant get iris graphics,because that is an oem part. the best you can do is HD graphics,which would have about half the performance,although you could probably run farcry 3 in 720p 30fps with hd4600(i5-4430/40,i5-4670). probably could run bf4,cod,titanfall as well at those resolutions and framerates(low-med settings).

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oh, if youre building the pc yourself, then you cant get iris graphics,because that is an oem part. the best you can do is HD graphics,which would have about half the performance,although you could probably run farcry 3 in 720p 30fps with hd4600. probably could run bf4,cod,titanfall as well at those resolutions and framerates(low-med settings).

 

Really?  So intel NUCs don't have it?

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Really?  So intel NUCs don't have it?

My bad, I meant,if you're purchasing a stand alone CPU,it wouldn't be available to you, but Intel does indeed sell a NUC board with a soldered i5 that includes the iris graphics( i5-4250U version.

 

edit: technically,its not an iris,its an hd5000,but the difference between it and the iris 5100 is a 100mhz turbo speed discrepancy, meaning,not likely to make a significant difference.

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So... Let's be honest here - it's never going to blow anyone's socks off, but coming from what I currently have - that is a perfectly acceptable little computer that will keep up with day to day needs (office, music production, etc) and potentially play some games at an acceptable level?

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If you're sure you want to use integrated graphics, the AMD A10-7850K is a bit faster than Iris and should be a lot less expensive. That said, if you're going to use a discrete card, then by all means go Intel.

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Sorry, had my fingers burned too many times by AMD.  Call me blinkered, but I'm an Intel guy.

 

And I would much rather stick with integrated graphics for the fan volume and size reasons.  But thanks for the input :)

 

So back to the question I just asked?

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So... Let's be honest here - it's never going to blow anyone's socks off, but coming from what I currently have - that is a perfectly acceptable little computer that will keep up with day to day needs (office, music production, etc) and potentially play some games at an acceptable level?

the cpu is a little better than what was in the original surface pro,and I can tell you from experience that it was more than sufficient for office,music production and development.

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But gaming?

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But gaming?

If you're fine with low resolutions and/or crappy details then it's doable. Nobody who actually aims for gaming goes with IGPs.

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If you're fine with low resolutions and/or crappy details then it's doable. Nobody who actually aims for gaming goes with IGPs.

 

Is this still a relevant opinion in 2014 when we have decent IGPs?  I have been told numerous times otherwise.

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But gaming?

i did a little research,and from what i got, the cpu might be a bottleneck for gaming,despite the igpu having sufficient resources to do it,and this may prevent you from playing some of these games i mentioned earlier even in 720p.

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IRIS is a fair performer, however no integrated solution will compete with a halfway decent dedicated card. Plus none of Intels integrated video chipsets have never been all that great

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Is this still a relevant opinion in 2014 when we have decent IGPs?  I have been told numerous times otherwise.

Yes, the "decent IGPs of 2014" just make make most games playable as opposed to the older ones which only handled some of the lighter games. Don't kid yourself though, the best IGP still barely scratches the low end of dGPUs. Here's some benches to make your mind up if it's worth it or not (pay attention to resolution).

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Ok cheers. I will look at something potentially more powerful. Thanks

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Ok cheers. I will look at something potentially more powerful. Thanks

Might I suggest the AMD R7 250. It is a latest gen Radeon card and comes in a very small package, which will get you much better performance than an IGP for about $80.

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Is this still a relevant opinion in 2014 when we have decent IGPs?  I have been told numerous times otherwise.

 

IGPs may be "decent compared to what they where, and sure, if you're going to play 2005 games on it, it's decent. But, games have moved on along with the GPU's and modern IGP's are no more Decent compared to games and discrete than they used to be. 

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