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#1 +Nik L

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 23:49

I am considering buying a new PC.  I am currently running a C2D with 8gb ram and an "average for the time" graphics card - as I am not a gamer.

 

I'm looking at a new haswell i5, 16gb, etc - and wondering how far the iris graphics will take me.  I am looking to maybe get into gaming, Far Cry games look fun, etc.

 

Any comments?

 

Otherwise, what's a sensible graphics card?  I don't want anything noisy, I want a small format PC that's quiet.  I don't need/want bleeding edge at all.

 

Thanks




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Posted 23 March 2014 - 23:54

Why you need low profile? Is your case small? You do realize you need a new board, right?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 00:19

iris pro 5200? I would say its very comparable to a gt 740m-750m in performance.



#4 OP +Nik L

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 00:29

Why you need low profile? Is your case small? You do realize you need a new board, right?

 

I am building a new pc, and I never said low profile anywhere, I have a preference for a small PC.  Possibly a NUC is the graphics are sufficient.

 

iris pro 5200? I would say its very comparable to a gt 740m-750m in performance.

 

Sorry, I have never followed graphics card numerics.  What does that mean in real world terms?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 00:36

What does that mean in real world terms?

Acceptable performance for most games.



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 00:45

I am building a new pc, and I never said low profile anywhere, I have a preference for a small PC.  Possibly a NUC is the graphics are sufficient.

 

Sorry, I have never followed graphics card numerics.  What does that mean in real world terms?

oh, if youre building the pc yourself, then you cant get iris graphics,because that is an oem part. the best you can do is HD graphics,which would have about half the performance,although you could probably run farcry 3 in 720p 30fps with hd4600(i5-4430/40,i5-4670). probably could run bf4,cod,titanfall as well at those resolutions and framerates(low-med settings).



#7 OP +Nik L

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 00:48

oh, if youre building the pc yourself, then you cant get iris graphics,because that is an oem part. the best you can do is HD graphics,which would have about half the performance,although you could probably run farcry 3 in 720p 30fps with hd4600. probably could run bf4,cod,titanfall as well at those resolutions and framerates(low-med settings).

 

Really?  So intel NUCs don't have it?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:00

Really?  So intel NUCs don't have it?

My bad, I meant,if you're purchasing a stand alone CPU,it wouldn't be available to you, but Intel does indeed sell a NUC board with a soldered i5 that includes the iris graphics( i5-4250U version.

 

edit: technically,its not an iris,its an hd5000,but the difference between it and the iris 5100 is a 100mhz turbo speed discrepancy, meaning,not likely to make a significant difference.



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:05

So... Let's be honest here - it's never going to blow anyone's socks off, but coming from what I currently have - that is a perfectly acceptable little computer that will keep up with day to day needs (office, music production, etc) and potentially play some games at an acceptable level?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:09

If you're sure you want to use integrated graphics, the AMD A10-7850K is a bit faster than Iris and should be a lot less expensive. That said, if you're going to use a discrete card, then by all means go Intel.



#11 OP +Nik L

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:12

Sorry, had my fingers burned too many times by AMD.  Call me blinkered, but I'm an Intel guy.

 

And I would much rather stick with integrated graphics for the fan volume and size reasons.  But thanks for the input :)

 

So back to the question I just asked?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:14

So... Let's be honest here - it's never going to blow anyone's socks off, but coming from what I currently have - that is a perfectly acceptable little computer that will keep up with day to day needs (office, music production, etc) and potentially play some games at an acceptable level?

the cpu is a little better than what was in the original surface pro,and I can tell you from experience that it was more than sufficient for office,music production and development.



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:19

But gaming?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:52

But gaming?

If you're fine with low resolutions and/or crappy details then it's doable. Nobody who actually aims for gaming goes with IGPs.



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:55

If you're fine with low resolutions and/or crappy details then it's doable. Nobody who actually aims for gaming goes with IGPs.

 

Is this still a relevant opinion in 2014 when we have decent IGPs?  I have been told numerous times otherwise.