Inertia Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I have a customer with a retail version of Windows 8.1 with the 32 bit and 64 bit discs, the seal is broken, and the key has been used once to activate an install on Parallels on a macbook pro. The person who bought the macbook pro decided they didn't like it wiped it, took it back to apple for a refund a few days later and bought a windows laptop instead (Windows 8.1 OEM pre loaded) They have asked me to 'get what i can' for the 8.1 software which they paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 MS don't allow you to resell used Windows licences and, yes, the new user would have trouble activating. goretsky and President Devil 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted June 13, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted June 13, 2015 Can I transfer the software to another computer or user? You may transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software (together with the license) to a computer owned by someone else if a) you are the first licensed user of the software and b) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. To make that transfer, you must transfer the original media, the certificate of authenticity, the product key and the proof of purchase directly to that other person, without retaining any copies of the software. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Anytime you transfer the software to a new computer, you must remove the software from the prior computer. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between computers. You may transfer Get Genuine Windows software, Pro Pack or Media Center Pack software only together with the licensed computer http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows_8_English_ca383862-45cf-467e-97d3-386e0e0260a6.pdf I didn't see anywhere in that EULA where you couldn't sell the entire license. Except this blurb: 9. LIMITED RIGHTS VERSIONS Some versions of the software, like Not for Resale and Academic Edition software, are distributed for limited purposes. You may not sell software marked as Inertia, Depicus and goretsky 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted June 13, 2015 Veteran Share Posted June 13, 2015 Yep, as jjkusaf said, just give them the entire contents of the retail package and don't leave the key installed on a machine. It might not hurt to warn the buyer that they may need to use phone activation. T3X4S, DConnell and Inertia 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 the problem is that the key already being used, that key need to be revoked for the new user can activated his windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted June 13, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted June 13, 2015 the problem is that the key already being used, that key need to be revoked for the new user can activated his windows. No it doesn't. Night Prowler 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 MS don't allow you to resell used Windows licences and, yes, the new user would have trouble activating. I bought vista used and had no trouble activating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmeunit Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Typically, you'll get several activations within a certain time period. I can't remember how many and the time frame, but if it was only activated once, you shouldn't have issues activating again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 You'll be fine to palm it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3X4S Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 It boils down to this: Are you a licensed Microsoft retailer/reseller ? NO So, technically - its not allowed. Technically, you cant transfer ownership, either. Of course, most verbiage in disclaimers, and EULA are for attorneys and safeguards protecting the company. If you were to ask MS - they would say - "NO you cant do that". However, they couldnt care less than what you do with your 1 license. Microsoft's team of nasty, blood-sucking lawyers are not going to come after you, or your friend. I am not telling you what to do and how to subvert the laws, just telling how the world works. It costs too much for them to care. Because, caring means manhours dedicated to something that wont bring them any ROI - its business 101. Like mentioned above - might have to use phone activation - where they can be totally honest with the horribly english-speaking person - say, "yes it was installed before - but that computer is no longer & this is the only computer that will run the OS" case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted June 15, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2015 It boils down to this: Are you a licensed Microsoft retailer/reseller ? NO So, technically - its not allowed. Technically, you cant transfer ownership, either. Of course, most verbiage in disclaimers, and EULA are for attorneys and safeguards protecting the company. If you were to ask MS - they would say - "NO you cant do that". However, they couldnt care less than what you do with your 1 license. Microsoft's team of nasty, blood-sucking lawyers are not going to come after you, or your friend. I am not telling you what to do and how to subvert the laws, just telling how the world works. It costs too much for them to care. Because, caring means manhours dedicated to something that wont bring them any ROI - its business 101. Like mentioned above - might have to use phone activation - where they can be totally honest with the horribly english-speaking person - say, "yes it was installed before - but that computer is no longer & this is the only computer that will run the OS" case closed. Where did you get that from? Because it isn't true. You can sell your retail license...you do not have to be a licensed Microsoft retailer/reseller http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/can-i-sell-a-used-copy-of-windows-vista-or-windows/11b6d8de-cb38-46a9-b3fc-4d74867e9371 http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/can-i-sell-my-windows-7-disc-after-ive-activated/f25651ff-d214-4a93-bf41-c952e8a780b1 EULA which I posted above. Inertia 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3X4S Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Where did you get that from? Because it isn't true. You can sell your retail license...you do not have to be a licensed Microsoft retailer/reseller http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/can-i-sell-a-used-copy-of-windows-vista-or-windows/11b6d8de-cb38-46a9-b3fc-4d74867e9371 http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/can-i-sell-my-windows-7-disc-after-ive-activated/f25651ff-d214-4a93-bf41-c952e8a780b1 EULA which I posted above. When we tried to sell unused licenses - we couldnt (store closed down & had many XP licenses) - eBay, craigslist, amazon all balked. I ASSumed an opened, already licensed serial key would even be trickier. When we ran into this issue - we were told by various sources that since we were not a licensed MS reseller - we were breaking the law.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 When we tried to sell unused licenses - we couldnt (store closed down & had many XP licenses) - eBay, craigslist, amazon all balked. I ASSumed an opened, already licensed serial key would even be trickier. When we ran into this issue - we were told by various sources that since we were not a licensed MS reseller - we were breaking the law.... I don't think you can sell a license only. Specially not an oem license that came with a tower. But you can definitely sell a retail box with its license and proof of purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio384 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I understand you are a retailer? In that case, the answer is no in some countries. Not because Microsoft won't allow it, but because, as a retailer, you can't resell stuff you already sold but which was brought back by a customer with the package opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak180 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Just sell it anyway. Everyone is so up tight =. If its OEM just tell them to do the phone activation and they should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieakers Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 You're in the UK so the license agreement on the box means absolutely jack. Provided you resell the entire package which includes the license key you're good to go. There's a small chance the new owner will have to do a telephone activation, but provided they have the physical box (the reps may request secondary codes from the license key sticker depending on how much attention they're paying) it will go through just fine. Inertia 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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