metal_termite Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Winamp 5.03 comes with the option to encode audio with MP4 ACC v1. Is this any good, how does it compare with MP3 or OGG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted March 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 25, 2004 OGG > AAC > MP3 However you will probably find that AAC is supported more in the future so it is best to use it rather than vorbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad345zAdZ0d9_ Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 AAC is a much higher audio quality compression than mp3. I'm not sure about OGG but im sure its better than that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted March 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 25, 2004 OGG > AAC > MP3However you will probably find that AAC is supported more in the future so it is best to use it rather than vorbis tend to disagree ACC is the best format when you cant do loseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted March 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 25, 2004 ,Mar 25 2004, 17:02] tend to disagree ACC is the best format when you cant do loseless. You are correct but vorbis is open source, that gives it more of an advantage than a bit more quality in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted March 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 25, 2004 You are correct but vorbis is open source, that gives it more of an advantage than a bit more quality in my eyes how so? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted March 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 25, 2004 Because it is usable in home grown software without fear of death from major corp x For my own personal use, yes AAC is the best because major corp y pays the licence for me :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 to Life Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 I want my AACPuls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteking Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 But I like MP3 coz my mp3 player does not play aac files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGVL Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I can't tell the difference between 128kbps AAC and 192kbps mp3, and AAC takes up less space so I'm using AAC from now on. Especially since I ordered an iPod mini. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmoove Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I can't tell the difference between 128kbps AAC and 192kbps mp3, and AAC takes up less space so I'm using AAC from now on. Especially since I ordered an iPod mini. ;) Really? I find 128kbit AAC not enough. It doesn't sound too good to me. If you compare the streams from iTMS and the Real musicstore you can clearly hear that the Real musicstore has better quality (192kbit AAC). Personally I encode all my music in 192-256 VBR kbit MP3 (with LAME). I find that sounding the best (but that is pure based on my own preference). OGG sounds like my music is in a tin can... very weird, but I don't like the format. AAC is great, though as everything I have is in MP3, I'll just keep using LAME to encode my music to MP3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 http://www.rjamorim.com/test/128extension/results.html Test executed by HydrogenAudio. AAC is way better than MP3 and slightly better than Ogg. Hell, even WMA9Pro would be at least on par with AAC and MPC if it didn't screw up royally on one of the test samples, which lowered its overall score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmoove Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Sure AAC is better then MP3, I am not questioning that. I only say that I didn't find 128kbit AAC impressive at all, the iTMS files aren't that good. I find 192kbit a bare minimum.... especially when I have to pay for it and when it is protected with DRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vassie Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 iTunes 192kbit for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted April 6, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 6, 2004 OGG > AAC is kind of sketchy. As the tests said, theyre kind of close. Only disadvantage is that most mp3 players dont support AAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted April 6, 2004 Veteran Share Posted April 6, 2004 ,Mar 25 2004, 12:02] tend to disagree ACC is the best format when you cant do loseless. Exactly. And if you want something really good, do lossless like shn, flac, wavepack I personally live flac with EAC, the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vassie Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I've heard that the next release of the Nero AAC encoder is going to have some major improvement (bearing in mind it's pretty good already!) Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danrarbc Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I've heard that the next release of the Nero AAC encoder is going to have some major improvement (bearing in mind it's pretty good already!)Ben Especially in low bitrates, like 64k low. They say it's the best by a fair margin at these bitrates. Higher bitrates won't benefit quite as much. I rip 192k or higher all the time so it won't impact me very much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vassie Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Since Nero was a close second to iTunes\QuickTime in recent test, hopefully they'll close the gap some more Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I only say that I didn't find 128kbit AAC impressive at all, the iTMS files aren't that good. I find 192kbit a bare minimum.... especially when I have to pay for it and when it is protected with DRM. Ever thought of the idea that you only THINK that it sounds bad, because you actually know it's compressed? Why do think that the guys over at HA insist on ABX tests to backup claims? And regarding iTunes... well, it's quasi a fact that it has suboptimal settings. Using Quicktime directly to compress files apparently puts out better files. iTunes supposedly uses long blocks only. If you can listen the difference or not is a different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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