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[Schmoove]

Another vote for Pascal, or Delphi its current Win32 object orientated off shoot.

Again it does depend what you want to write, most sites / support on the net is geared toward C++ in one form or another. Pascal/Delphi seem to be dieing off.

Far from.
Although I don't use Delphi that much anymore (I mostly code in C++) there is still a huge userbase. Sites like http://www.torry.net prove that and the Jedi VCL is still in heavy development. Delphi is used a lot and you would be surprised how many programs are still developed in Delphi!!
For example Tune-Up Utilities 2004 is a Delphi application (or at least parts of it). See (bpl is Borland Package Library and the indicated icon is a typical Delphi icon):

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[Widdowmaker]

Not a flame or anything, but i am so sick of everyone wanting the easy way out. Listen people, if whatever it is you want is worth ANYTHING it wont be easy to get, if it is then you probably did it wrong. As for "easiest" language, i would say QBasic. As for quickest? Not sure.


Wasent the difference between a do loop and a do.. while loop where it checks the varible? In a while it does it at the top, in a do it does it at the bottom, right? Been awhile since i messed around with them, ATM i am doing C++ text based stuff, like DataBase's and what not.

[rezza]

Haskell

Haskell?? Not a chance... crazy language.

[joshbrown]

In high school, we encountered Visual Basic, followed by Pascal, and then C++. As far as easiest, I think Visual Basic was the easiest, and is probably a decent language to start learning. In college, we started with Java and now moved to Scheme for my CS courses, but for my Computer Engineering courses we learned assembly for 4 different architectures.

I see a comment about learning Scheme by tiagosilva, and here's something
Scheme is a dialect of LISP and is the first one to have lexical scoping rather than dynamic scoping. I am finishing my second year of college right now, and we are dealing with Scheme. It's a pretty neat language. It's very recursive. It's different than any you usually encounter. We use it now in our programming language concepts course to encounter different ideas that we haven't seen before.

Good luck to prince, on learning a language, and good luck to you, tiagosilva, on learning Scheme, it's got a steep learning curve, but it's worth it.

[parimal_kumar]

Haskell?? Not a chance... crazy language.

Haskell is a brilliant language in a pure academic sense! I am glad to find someone else who probably doesn't go to my university and knows about Hakell!

Another good language to learn is Prolog!

[Varsity]

Delphi 7 is a breeze. And once you're good at it you can jump straight into .NET with Delphi 8.

[+Brandon Live]

I recommend getting your hands on the student edition of Visual Studio .NET 2003 (Most universities have an MSDN license that lets them give a copy to every student - otherwise you can get one at www.TheSpoke.net)

VB .NET is a powerful language and not too difficult to learn.

I first learned old-school Basic back on a DOS machine when I was in grade school. I took two programming-related courses in the John's Hopkins CTY program during the summers between middle school grades - I learned Scheme at the first one, which is a great LISP-like language for beginners. I took two years of C/C++ courses in high school. And two semesters of programming in college which was a mixture of theory and Java.

Now I'm writing code for my own start-up business. At the moment I'm using VB .NET the most, though I prefer C# and will be using that extensively in the future. My project has required the use of Jscript, ASP .NET, ADO .NET, and VB .NET.

Once you've learned one OOP language, it's easy to pick up the others. C++, Java, and C# all work in generally the same way. Java and C# are probably "easier" because they're managed code platforms and the JIT does all the garbage collection and such. Debugging is also much easier on the newer languages.

Learning C++, however, is a good idea. I think it is easier to learn C++ first, and then learn about Managed Code systems like Java/C#/VB .NET than it is to learn, say, Java and then go "backward" to C++.

[uniacid]

I'd recommend VB also since its easy to learn and you can do some cool stuff with it, also you can do C# which is also easy

[tiagosilva29]

Good luck to prince, on learning a language, and good luck to you, tiagosilva, on learning Scheme, it's got a steep learning curve, but it's worth it.

Thank you! You're a swell guy!

Edited by tiagosilva29, 19 May 2004 - 16:07.

[Ivan Kot]

i think the easiest is visual basic
i've learnt the base in 2 weeks

[Prince21]

Thanx people, some how the topic changed as Schmoove started chatting about some other stuff didnt answer my question, but i think visual basic and pascal get a lot of votes

[area91]

Visual Basic .net

[markus]

I suggest you get started with .NET. It't the way to go. There may be a little learning curve, but once you get started shouldn't be a problem!

[Prince21]

Where can i get a free compiler and a good tutorial for VB

[Widdowmaker]

Fre compiler? heh. good luck, i wasent able to find one, so i had to "aquier(spl?)" it from an online "store". And it was only the VB 5.0 Edition, they did not carry 6.0. As for a good tutorial? I had to "borrow" a book from the library. Good book to, its called "Step by Step". it even ahs pictures to lead you along.