+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 1, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 1, 2010 SCEE has said releasing Heavy Rain is a very big ?gamble? ? but one the company has given its full support. ?Being Sony, I suppose we have a little more luxury to take a gamble on more original and innovative IP ? and Heavy Rain definitely fits that category,? said product manager, Lucy Duncan, speaking to CVG. She furthed added: ?I suppose the risk is lessened if you have faith in the team behind the game and David [Cage] and Guillaume [de Fondaumiere] and the guys at Quantic Dreams have really impressed, not just in terms of their back catalogue ? Farenheit ? but also in terms of the tech demos they showed in the run up to Heavy Rain.? A couple of reviews have been starting to trickle out already, with OPM, among others, giving the game a 9/10. The game releases on February 23 in the US and February 26 in the UK for PS3. A demo will release next Thursday. Some new footage of the Quantic thriller got out last week, including the first nine minutes and a new trailer. Source: http://www.vg247.com/2010/02/01/scee-heavy-rain-is-a-gamble/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredBozirini Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 A risk I'm happy they took. I will buy this game on day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D!ABOL!C Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I can't wait to check out the demo, kinda in a gaming lull until this comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted February 1, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 1, 2010 Too many games, work is not that good right now and I have bills and stuff I have to pay. Dammit!!! :( Going to get this but not this month. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Must resist buying with no money! :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 2, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 2, 2010 Must resist buying with no money! :cry: Don't worry if this reviews well which it has so far and I enjoy it I'll be moving on from my Demons Souls marketing to Neowin Heavy Rain marketing :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g~man Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i hope this game flops.. dont want this type of gameplay to catch on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i hope this game flops.. dont want this type of gameplay to catch on You deserve a royal ass kicking for such a statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted February 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 2, 2010 Don't worry if this reviews well which it has so far and I enjoy it I'll be moving on from my Demons Souls marketing to Neowin Heavy Rain marketing :devil: Surely Sony can provide you with money hats for both games? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubar Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i hope this game flops.. dont want this type of gameplay to catch on Wow talk about a stupid statement to make, do i sense a little bit of xbox fanboyism in this or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i hope this game flops.. dont want this type of gameplay to catch on feeling a little left behind, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g~man Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i dont want to play sims with cutscenes and qte's... and if this genre becomes popular then gaming took a hit my opinions, and still my opinions if it was a xbox game too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i dont want to play sims with cutscenes and qte's... and if this genre becomes popular then gaming took a hit my opinions, and still my opinions if it was a xbox game too Then don't buy the game - You have some serious delusions if you think every other genre just dies from one day to another. Talk about a storm in a glass of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i dont want to play sims with cutscenes and qte's... and if this genre becomes popular then gaming took a hit my opinions, and still my opinions if it was a xbox game too i kind of agree with you... i wish there was a way to turn off the UI in the game so it looks less like a qte , and more like you are somehow controlling the game it would be up to you to figure out which button does what, when, but that's what online forums are for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g~man Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 i kind of agree with you... i wish there was a way to turn off the UI in the game so it looks less like a qte , and more like you are somehow controlling the game it would be up to you to figure out which button does what, when, but that's what online forums are for, right? only time u actually control your character from what i can see is to walk. everything else has predetermined animations blah, i'd rather watch a movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted February 2, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 2, 2010 only time u actually control your character from what i can see is to walk. everything else has predetermined animations blah, i'd rather watch a movie Then go watch a movie? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted February 2, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 2, 2010 Glad they took this risk, Ill be buying it the day its released here in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Glad they took this risk, Ill be buying it the day its released here in Australia. Same here (Y) Just in Denmark, of course :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbandonedTrolley Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Already pre-ordered, hopefully will get on day of release (Y) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 only time u actually control your character from what i can see is to walk. everything else has predetermined animations blah, i'd rather watch a movie i wish that they'd make it look even more like a movie, as in no button icons on the screen telling you what to press to do what etc etc... you'll just sit down, with the controller in your hand, and if you press the wrong button at the wrong time (and you have no idea) you character will do something stupid , but if you wait for the right moment, something amazing happens... that's how i like to see it, with no UI elements whatsoever, imagine all those game guides and walkthroughs and discussions popping up on the internet, it couldve been great imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 2, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 2, 2010 i dont want to play sims with cutscenes and qte's... and if this genre becomes popular then gaming took a hit my opinions, and still my opinions if it was a xbox game too This isn't a new genre, it's an evolution of point and click adventure games. If story focussed titles like this become a hit, which they are unlikely to, it would be a good thing for the industry seeing as everyone is always whining about sequels and no one taking risks, then a developer does and it's back to moaning at the developer for not making an FPS instead. The game focusses on story first, then gameplay, and to get cinematic gameplay you need to have predetermined animations (in this genre that is, most of the time). Plus you guys still don't know the difference between a QTE and this, QTE typically lead to failure or success, rinse/repeat till you reach success, in Heavy Rain everything only leads to success, it just changes the story. i wish that they'd make it look even more like a movie, as in no button icons on the screen telling you what to press to do what etc etc... you'll just sit down, with the controller in your hand, and if you press the wrong button at the wrong time (and you have no idea) you character will do something stupid , but if you wait for the right moment, something amazing happens... that's how i like to see it, with no UI elements whatsoever, imagine all those game guides and walkthroughs and discussions popping up on the internet, it couldve been great imo Nah one thing I'm very happy about are the UI elements in this game they are very minimalistic, only pop up in proximity and make sense. Not huge glowing objects or anything stupid. The game needs some user friendliness about it. Plus I really like the small touches as when you have an action of responses they swirl around your head, but if your character is stressed/in danger, they swirl and blur, small touches like that are (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 The game needs some user friendliness about it. its precisely this user friendliness that is causing the negative reactions from people... imagine if you will, a nice place on the other side of a canyon.... Heavy Rain belongs on this nice place on the other side, but in trying to reach us with user friendliness, it falls into the canyon... i'd rather that they stop at these 'small touches' when it comes to user friendliness, and subliminally teach us how to play the game, rather than the blatantly game-like icons popping up on screen... it ruins the experience pretty badly, imho... by their very nature, these info icons take the center of attention, and when you break people's attention span like that, they are bound to not like it let me clarify what i think... with no UI whatsoever, the player might be tempted to simply mash the buttons on the controller, but every single button press has an effect on-screen, and unjustified inputs will quickly end the game(all playable characters get killed), while players who exercise more care will progress in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 2, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 2, 2010 its precisely this user friendliness that is causing the negative reactions from people... imagine if you will, a nice place on the other side of a canyon.... Heavy Rain belongs on this nice place on the other side, but in trying to reach us with user friendliness, it falls into the canyon... i'd rather that they stop at these 'small touches' when it comes to user friendliness, and subliminally teach us how to play the game, rather than the blatantly game-like icons popping up on screen... it ruins the experience pretty badly, imho... by their very nature, these info icons take the center of attention, and when you break people's attention span like that, they are bound to not like it No it's not, it's people not used to an experience like this and/or people not understanding the difference between a QTE and what's going on here. This game is simply an evolution of adventure point and click games. As I've said already the icons are context sensitive, only appear when you're near something you can interact with so I don't really know what your issue is, the user needs to somehow know they can interact with something when they're close to it. From the videos it is really close as well, a lot of the time you walk around with nothing on screen. It's the most minimalistic UI I think could of been done with this game, as there's no mouse pointer...I'm actually really impressed with the interface, as you can see with some of the actions as well a light grey progress bar fills the square to show you completing it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 As I've said already the icons are context sensitive, only appear when you're near something you can interact with so I don't really know what your issue is, the user needs to somehow know they can interact with something when they're close to it. From the videos it is really close as well, a lot of the time you walk around with nothing on screen. its not the context thats the problem, its the icons... they couldve done something like make the character look at important things in the scene, and make the character animate in a concise way as to convey the context to the player (bending over a drawer as if to open it, etc) or apply some camera effects like zoom, blur, colour blending, etc to simulate emotion when seeing something which brings back the characters' memories, and the effect is largest when the camera is pointed straight at the object.... or they could 'attract' the camera into facing an object and make it hard to look away, to simulate something attention-grabbing... or any number of types of cues and methods, other than relying on icons... its very unimaginative, and imho its a flaw of videogames in general to rely on explicit iconography , rather than context-driven symbolism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 2, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 2, 2010 its not the context thats the problem, its the icons... they couldve done something like make the character look at important things in the scene, and make the character animate in a concise way as to convey the context to the player (bending over a drawer as if to open it, etc) or apply some camera effects like zoom, blur, colour blending, etc to simulate emotion when seeing something which brings back the characters' memories, and the effect is largest when the camera is pointed straight at the object.... or they could 'attract' the camera into facing an object and make it hard to look away, to simulate something attention-grabbing... or any number of types of cues and methods, other than relying on icons... its very unimaginative, and imho its a flaw of videogames in general to rely on explicit iconography , rather than context-driven symbolism All of that is just cumbersome, mimicking humans is the hardest thing to do in the gaming realm, so the challenge of this game itself is hard enough. It's a take upon real life, real thoughts, a believable scenario. No aliens, no imaginary monsters, nothing supernatural, no glittering objects, no George Stobbart pockets. The game would be a huge pain in the arse of trial and error if I had to constantly watch the characters head swivel around like a roundabout trying to figure out what I can/can't interact with, really dislike your idea. It's still a game, it's only mimicking real life as best it can, not trying to BE real life, I at least want some gamey components so I can enjoy it. The icons themselves are suitable for the type of game this is played on a controller, not a PC, the most imaginative part is how you select dialogue, options swirling around your head - Then as I said in some tension rising situations they blur/move faster. Instead of how say ME/Fallout does it's interactions, every stops, camera zooms in on faces and you select a/b/c in your own time with no pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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