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Sherlock (UK BBC Series)


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 22:38

A thrilling episode through and through, I'm intrigued as to how  Molly helped Sherlock.  (Y)


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 22:38

He jumped in to a truck filled with bin bags, you can see the truck just before Watson gets knocked down, I'm amazed this was on iplayer as soon as it finished.


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 22:42

View PostLovell, on 15 January 2012 - 22:38, said:

He jumped in to a truck filled with bin bags, you can see the truck just before Watson gets knocked down.

Watson checks his pulse does he not? (It's also not realistically possible for him to have reached a bin truck on the road - though I don't think the writers quite care as much about that point). I'd like to think that was a very obvious red herring. I hope :p

Although, Molly is a doctor - I'd assume she may have had access to switcharoo some dead bodies around at some point.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 22:44

View Post~Johnny, on 15 January 2012 - 22:42, said:

Watson checks his pulse does he not? (It's also not realistically possible for him to have reached a bin truck on the road - though I don't the writers quite care as much about that point :p)

Although, Molly is a doctor - I'd assume she may have had access to switcharoo some dead bodies around at some point.

Did you watch the show to the end m8? at the end you see Sherlock watching Watson at his grave.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 22:45

View Post~Johnny, on 15 January 2012 - 22:42, said:

Although, Molly is a doctor - I'd assume she may have had access to switcharoo some dead bodies around at some point.
Yup, my thinking too.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 22:46

View PostLovell, on 15 January 2012 - 22:44, said:

Did you watch the show to the end m8? at the end you see Sherlock watching Watson at his grave.

I did, I just don't think it was the bin truck. Watson checked the pulse of the body and and certainly seemed convinced enough looking at it that is *was* Sherlock - and he does have a rather convincing face.

I mean, he could have magically flown into the bin truck, rolled out of it's closed caged sides, covered his face and the floor with blood, and stopped his own pulse, and laid there looking dead for a bit. Or Molly somehow found an extremly close looking twin of his, (maybe Jeremy Clarkson's uncle :p) and stuck his dead body on the floor, but I like to think it's not such an obvious solution.

Although, on the other had - despite him not jumping, his body does seem extremely far out from the building when he's falling. He was also falling basically in a nice forward-facing star shape - whereas the body itself was on it's side, rotated 90 degrees clockwise to what it should have been - like it could have been neatly rolled off the truck, and Watson may have conveniently mistaken his identity after being hit on the head and being slightly out of it, whilst the truck drove off nice and safely with Sherlock in it.

Of course, I like Sherlock because it point's out what you don't notice as the answer, and these are all really noticeable so I'd be personally disappointed if that was the solution.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 22:59

Everything about that episode was truly fantastic. Loved it! :D

Can't wait for series 3! (Confirmed by both Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss.)

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 23:07

The guy who hit Watson with the bike obviously did something to him that made him recognise the body as Holmes although it wasn't.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 00:01

View Postchicken-royal, on 15 January 2012 - 22:59, said:

Everything about that episode was truly fantastic. Loved it! :D

Can't wait for series 3! (Confirmed by both Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss.)
**** yeah! :D

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 00:14

View PostPsYcHoKiLLa, on 15 January 2012 - 23:07, said:

The guy who hit Watson with the bike obviously did something to him that made him recognise the body as Holmes although it wasn't.
I thought that as well.

I really did enjoy this, but it was untenable for Watson to believe what Holmes said at the end about having studied up on him before he met him (as that was how he knew all those things about him). Holmes repeatedly demonstrates in the series that he can do that off the cuff.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:24

Despite the slight hand-waving about the fake death, I thought this was an absolutely brilliant episode. Martin Freeman's performance at the end was magnificent.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 18:09

Loved it!

Now hurry up with Series 3! :p

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 18:24

View Postjakem1, on 02 January 2012 - 21:12, said:

I was really looking forward to this because the first season was so good. Unfortunately I thought it was a huge let down.

This episode suffered from all the problems that make Dr Who unwatchable. The storyline was largely incoherent, the plot had massive holes in it, simple work-arounds were found for insurmountable problems and manic busyiness is the only device used to drive the story on. I don't know how Steven Moffat ever got his job at the BBC but I often wish my license fee wasn't wasted on him.

Here's a tip Steven - artificial excitement is no substitute for an intelligent, engaging plot and strong character development. Unfortunately you're writing lacks all of the above.

Actually I think Moffat was responsible for the excellent Coupling, but you are spot on here with your criticism of Sherlock.

Still, I enjoy it. But you're right!!!

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 18:30

Liked it, though seems the best episodes of Sherlock have been the first episode in both seasons.

 Moriarty and Sherlocks motivations during the rooftop confrontation seemed rather muddled. 

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 18:41

At least they ordered a 3rd series at the same time that they ordered the second. :D