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[flexkeyboard]

Many people bitches about certain smartphones (iOS,WP7) not having flash, but no one ever really uses Flash on mobile and here's why: it doesn't work all that well as everyone believes it to be. All the commotion about Jobs' stance only proved him right. Avram Piltch from laptopmag.com wrote a piece on the latest Flash 10.1 functional (or lack of) on the Droid 2 here http://bit.ly/ayEnhe.

Truth is that Flash is just too cpu intensive for current mobile chips. Flash drains even on the most competent computer-class CPU. There's just no way for Flash to work well on low power mobile CPUs, even with the new hardware-accelerated version 10.1. Dedicated apps like the Youtube app are the only way to really view online videos. Flash is not meant to be on mobile for now and that could be its death blow on mobile platform.

[AbandonedTrolley]

vice le von, on 20 August 2010 - 07:51, said:

Many people bitches about certain smartphones (iOS,WP7) not having flash, but no one ever really uses Flash on mobile and here's why: it doesn't work all that well as everyone believes it to be. All the commotion about Jobs' stance only proved him right. Avram Piltch from laptopmag.com wrote a piece on the latest Flash 10.1 functional (or lack of) on the Droid 2 here http://bit.ly/ayEnhe.

Truth is that Flash is just too cpu intensive for current mobile chips. Flash drains even on the most competent computer-class CPU. There's just no way for Flash to work well on low power mobile CPUs, even with the new hardware-accelerated version 10.1. Dedicated apps like the Youtube app are the only way to really view online videos. Flash is not meant to be on mobile for now and that could be its death blow on mobile platform.

Erm I often watch flash videos on my mobile. Run fine on my overclocked Desire can't say that the battery life suffers too much as it still lasts me all day.

[MR_Candyman]

Really? I used 10.1 on a Droid X and it was just fine.

Even then, it's not about performance, it's about CHOICE. If I choose to watch a flash video and have it play jittery, that's up to me. I would still like the choice to do so though.

[Berserk87]

Most flash content playing smoothly is better than iOS's no flash content plays.
Plus the fact that the droid 2 isn't the greatest in the benchmarks.
http://androidandme....t-professional/

The galaxy S would of been a much better test as it performs the best in the graphics benchmarks and is one of the most popular (if not THE most) android phones.

[MarkusDarkus]

Where is that information from?? Flash runs wicked on my Samsung GT-I8320 but then I's one of the best pieces of hardware there is!

[-Razorfold]

Why not test it on phones designed for multimedia? Such as the Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire, Nexus One, Droid X?

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Many people bitches about certain smartphones (iOS,WP7)

Last time I checked, WP7 was getting flash. Get your facts straight.

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Flash drains even on the most competent computer-class CPU

Lol. Amazing how I can watch a 1080p video on youtube on my crappy old Core 2 Duo 2.2ghz with CPU utilization at like 20% right?

Without hardware acceleration (pre flash 10.1) it was around 40-60%. Still nowhere NEAR draining my CPU.

[Neoauld]

MR_Candyman, on 20 August 2010 - 07:56, said:

Really? I used 10.1 on a Droid X and it was just fine.

Even then, it's not about performance, it's about CHOICE. If I choose to watch a flash video and have it play jittery, that's up to me. I would still like the choice to do so though.

i rather enjoy the time it takes to study each frame

[MR_Candyman]

/- Razorfold, on 20 August 2010 - 08:23, said:

Why not test it on phones designed for multimedia? Such as the Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire, Nexus One, Droid X?



Lol. Amazing how I can watch a 1080p video on youtube on my crappy old Core 2 Duo 2.2ghz with CPU utilization at like 20% right?

Without hardware acceleration it was around 40-60%. Still nowhere NEAR draining my CPU

Ya, my 800mhz linux server with a Geforce MX400 plays standard flash videos just fine, and the linux flash player gets a lot of hatred. I think people are just too quick to jump on the anti-flash bandwagon

[+jeston]

Hmm, works like a charm on my Droid 1 @ 1.0 GHz. Hell, it works fine even when it's not overclocked.

[Phenom II]

Want flash to work in a browser?

Android, Nokia, WM



http://get.skyfire.com/

[-Razorfold]

Phenom II, on 20 August 2010 - 09:08, said:

Want flash to work in a browser?

Android, Nokia, WM

http://get.skyfire.com/

Skyfire is great. But it isn't the same =(

I also believe they've stopped servicing countries outside the US recently due to bandwidth concerns.

Android has flash support so you can just use that without a problem.
WinMo has flash lite that works with IE and Opera, no problem with that either just some newer flash pages don't like it.
WP7 will have flash support so.

[Berserk87]

MR_Candyman, on 20 August 2010 - 08:27, said:

I think people are just too quick to jump on the anti-flash bandwagon

Its not an anti-flash bandwagon as it's people trying to justify buying an iphone.

[Hardcore Til I Die]

Second hand information is funny.. I've used flash quite a bit on my Desire and it runs fine as long as I'm on HSDPA and on WiFi it just flies.

If anything the bottleneck is the connection not the processor.

[jbrooksuk]

Funny, my Desire seems to run everything top notch.

[Subject Delta]

Agreed with the other Desire users. There are some minor drawbacks to the mobile version of flash, but the CPU in the phone can handle it perfectly well, and it works just fine. The only truth is that Apple want you to remain locked down into their ecosystem and have as little choice as possible so that you are forced to buy from the app store. It has been proven that actually HTML 5 (especially the video element) causes every bit as much battery drain, and CPU usage as flash does.