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#1 techbeck

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 21:52

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Last month, Eric Schmidt announced that 200,000 Android devices were being activated everyday and Mr. Jobs here takes an obvious jab at Google’s numbers. During the event, Jobs announced that:

We think some of our friends are counting upgrades in their numbers

Google quickly responded by saying:

The Android activation numbers do not include upgrades and are, in fact, only a portion of the Android devices in the market since we only include devices that have Google services.

We all know that Jobs likes to run his mouth, which we figured he would learn his lesson after the whole “antennagate” debacle where he reported Android devices suffered the same issue when you held the device a certain way.

He continued to take a few more jabs at Google when he was talking about Apple TV stating that people wanted Hollywood blockbusters and high-end television shows and not “amateur hour.” What ever jabs he feels necessary to help him sleep at night, but it’s clear inside he’s feeling very threatened by Google and the Android OS.

http://androidspin.c...ations-comment/

Apple's MO..cannot beat them or feel threatened...then bash the competition!!


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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:07

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android device doesn't come with Google's services?

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:10

View PostElliott, on 02 September 2010 - 22:07, said:

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android phone doesn't come with Google's services?

MP3 players for one...or you can read here

http://en.wikipedia....Android_devices

and yes, 230k beats 200k...but considering how long Android has been around compared to the iPhone...thats pretty impressive.

And Jobs is a DB. If his products were so great, they should sell on their own...not saying inaccurate things and bashing others.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:11

View PostElliott, on 02 September 2010 - 22:07, said:

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android phone doesn't come with Google's services?

Some vendors have made large changes to the stock Android install - I think there was one major US network that removed something-or-other from their android phones and caused quite a furore over it. That might be what they are referring to. Then again, on first boot there is an option to send usage metrics (I think) to Google. I would expect most would uncheck that - the numbers may only count those that do not uncheck the box. I am only guessing, however.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:11

View PostElliott, on 02 September 2010 - 22:07, said:

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android device doesn't come with Google's services?

Those cheap Chinese knockoffs of iPhones of course :laugh: No Google services on those.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:12

BREAKING NEWS: Steve Jobs exaggerates. More at 11.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:13

View PostVice, on 02 September 2010 - 22:11, said:

Those cheap Chinese knockoffs of iPhones of course :laugh: No Google services on those.

MP3 players for one...or you can read here

http://en.wikipedia....Android_devices

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:13

View Posttechbeck, on 02 September 2010 - 22:10, said:

and yes, 230k beats 200k...but considering how long Android has been around compared to the iPhone...thats pretty impressive.

but then again there is how many androids phones out there against 2 iphone models?

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:14

View Posttechbeck, on 02 September 2010 - 22:13, said:

MP3 players for one...or you can read here

http://en.wikipedia....Android_devices
Yea, but seriously, how popular are those? They're probably a small blip on the Android radar. I've personally never even seen one.


View Posttechbeck, on 02 September 2010 - 22:10, said:

and yes, 230k beats 200k...but considering how long Android has been around compared to the iPhone...thats pretty impressive.
Not really when you consider the proliferation of Android devices vs. 3 iOS devices.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:17

View Postrajputwarrior, on 02 September 2010 - 22:13, said:

but then again there is how many androids phones out there against 2 iphone models?

Not this argument again. And thats Apples dumbass fault for limiting the phone to one carrier for so long. Android did what MS did back in the day...took what Apple did, make their own, and then opened it up for many different manufacturers and developers.

View PostElliott, on 02 September 2010 - 22:14, said:

Yea, but seriously, how popular are those? They're probably a small blip on the Android radar. I've personally never even seen one.

Never said they were popular...question was asked, I answered. I have never seen an android MP3 player or e-reader either. But then again, I have not been looking for one.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:21

View Posttechbeck, on 02 September 2010 - 22:17, said:

Not this argument again. And thats Apples dumbass fault for limiting the phone to one carrier for so long. Android did what MS did back in the day...took what Apple did, make their own, and then opened it up for many different manufacturers and developers.
We weren't debating that, but generally the argument is used the other way around (when Android beats iOS at something). In this scenario, it's actually just kind of surprising.

View Posttechbeck, on 02 September 2010 - 22:17, said:

Never said they were popular...question was asked, I answered. I have never seen an android MP3 player or e-reader either. But then again, I have not been looking for one.
Well, I specifically asked about popular devices. That's all. :p

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:21

Wait, why is anyone defending Jobs and his horrible tactics?

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:23

View PostElliott, on 02 September 2010 - 22:21, said:

Well, I specifically asked about popular devices. That's all. :p

Well excuuuuuse me!!...haha :p

View Postshakey, on 02 September 2010 - 22:21, said:

Wait, why is anyone defending Jobs and his horrible tactics?

Who is defending jobs? Did I miss something?

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:23

View PostElliott, on 02 September 2010 - 22:07, said:

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android device doesn't come with Google's services?

Not sure if "Popular", but there A LOT of android devices that don't come with the google services. Especially carrier-branded ones.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:29

View Posttechbeck, on 02 September 2010 - 22:17, said:

Never said they were popular...question was asked, I answered. I have never seen an android MP3 player or e-reader either. But then again, I have not been looking for one.
Really? Because nooks run android and I'm sure you've probably at least heard of them.