Apple told to pay Samsung's legal fees

Eventually the patent wars between Apple and Samsung will stop becoming news. But until then, even though it's getting rather repetitive, it’s only right to report on the case(s) as they progress! Following on from publishing an apology in October which included “false and misleading” information, Apple is getting it in the rear again, being told by the Court of Appeal of England and Wales to pay Samsung’s legal fees.

What happened, in a nutshell, was that Apple complied with the UK courts, releasing a statement saying Samsung didn’t copy the iPad. But they included details from the cases in the US and Germany, effectively muddying the waters. Now they are paying the price; literally.

The tit-for-tat battle between the two electronic giants is rumbling on, and it doesn’t look like there’ll be a clear winner with both trying to outdo each other and add that extra level of humiliation to the proceedings. This latest ruling won’t do Apple any favours. Apple has since released another statement, telling the readers that they didn’t fully comply with the initial court order.

On 25 October 2012, Apple Inc. published a statement on its UK website in relation to Samsung's Galaxy tablet computers. That statement was inaccurate and did not comply with the order of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales. The correct statement is at Samsung/Apple UK judgement.

It’s common practice for the loser in UK court cases to pay the legal fees of the winner, but before now it didn’t seem like Apple needed to.

Source: The Verge | Image courtesy of unwiredview.com | Thanks to forum member (Spork) for the tip!

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Apple just got Sam-Sunged!!!!

Take that in your bite...PRICKS.
I have one last Apple gadget in the house. I guess it will remain until Apple doesn't support it with updates.
My phone is the GS3, I am getting the Note II this month and my TV at XMAS will be a Samsung Smart-TV. I am Samsung-ing all my electronics over the next year. All my PC's and more will all be Samsung. Since America won't stand behind American manufacturing, I will stand for the brand I like most. GO SAMSUNG!!!!

Please don't become like Apple.

TechieXP said,
Apple just got Sam-Sunged!!!!

Take that in your bite...PRICKS.
I have one last Apple gadget in the house. I guess it will remain until Apple doesn't support it with updates.
My phone is the GS3, I am getting the Note II this month and my TV at XMAS will be a Samsung Smart-TV. I am Samsung-ing all my electronics over the next year. All my PC's and more will all be Samsung. Since America won't stand behind American manufacturing, I will stand for the brand I like most. GO SAMSUNG!!!!

Please don't become like Apple.

Brand loyalty is silly.

If you genuinely like all of those products more than the competitors, then fine, but buying things just because they're made by Samsung is crazy.

I have a Samsung TV, a ViewSonic monitor, an Asus router, a Microsoft Xbox 360, an Apple iPad and iPhone, Sky+ HD cable, Windows 7 PC. Had three Android phones before my iPhone, but decided the iPhone suits me best at the minute.

Hardcore Til I Die said,

Brand loyalty is silly.

If you genuinely like all of those products more than the competitors, then fine, but buying things just because they're made by Samsung is crazy.

I have a Samsung TV, a ViewSonic monitor, an Asus router, a Microsoft Xbox 360, an Apple iPad and iPhone, Sky+ HD cable, Windows 7 PC. Had three Android phones before my iPhone, but decided the iPhone suits me best at the minute.

So you're trying to tell me how to spend MY money? Brand loyalty is not dumb. What does make brand loyalty dumb is when idiots like Appel lovers, loves the brand so much, that even when the brand is milking them they are to blind to see it.

I have my favorite brands I stick with - Intel for CPU's, ATI for GPU's, Creative for Sound, Windows for my PC's, Dell is my favorite brand, but I own others like HP Envy and a Toshiba and a Lenovo ThinkPad, and I happen to like Samsung. For the stuff coming to the states from overseas, Samsung is making the best looking and featuristic products that I happen to like. I prefer having a family of products that work together.

My present TV and Blu-Ray is from LG. They are both very nice and work together with just one remote. If I have the phone and tv, they to work together seamlessly. I buy what I like. Unless you are buying it for me, you can't tell me how to spend my money.

Thanks to Apple, Samsung is now a household name. If there appliances didn't cost so much, I'd own them too. Why? Because again they look very nice and have nice features. There side-by-side fridges are awesome. You ever seen one? Makes KitchenAid look cheap now.

There is nothing wrong with brand loyalty. My folks have owned a car from Chrysler for years, never had a lick of trouble beyond the ordinary wear and tear on cars. I owned 2 so far and I too am happy with the brand. I've owned others and even tho they claim quality, I saw none more than what I get now and I paid less money. Brand loyalty has its rewards and drawbacks.

I for one am not so loyal I won't switch. Right now Samsung is making great things and I am getting my home filled with them before the brands goes to crap like they all do when production increases. Get it while it hot, because you will wish you did when its not.

TechieXP said,
So you're trying to tell me how to spend MY money? Brand loyalty is not dumb. What does make brand loyalty dumb is when idiots like Appel lovers, loves the brand so much, that even when the brand is milking them they are to blind to see it.

I have my favorite brands I stick with - Intel for CPU's, ATI for GPU's, Creative for Sound, Windows for my PC's, Dell is my favorite brand, but I own others like HP Envy and a Toshiba and a Lenovo ThinkPad, and I happen to like Samsung. For the stuff coming to the states from overseas, Samsung is making the best looking and featuristic products that I happen to like. I prefer having a family of products that work together.

My present TV and Blu-Ray is from LG. They are both very nice and work together with just one remote. If I have the phone and tv, they to work together seamlessly. I buy what I like. Unless you are buying it for me, you can't tell me how to spend my money.

Thanks to Apple, Samsung is now a household name. If there appliances didn't cost so much, I'd own them too. Why? Because again they look very nice and have nice features. There side-by-side fridges are awesome. You ever seen one? Makes KitchenAid look cheap now.

There is nothing wrong with brand loyalty. My folks have owned a car from Chrysler for years, never had a lick of trouble beyond the ordinary wear and tear on cars. I owned 2 so far and I too am happy with the brand. I've owned others and even tho they claim quality, I saw none more than what I get now and I paid less money. Brand loyalty has its rewards and drawbacks.

I for one am not so loyal I won't switch. Right now Samsung is making great things and I am getting my home filled with them before the brands goes to crap like they all do when production increases. Get it while it hot, because you will wish you did when its not.

Not telling you how to spend your money, just commenting on something you posted on a public message board

Brand loyalty is very silly. You even said so yourself: "What does make brand loyalty dumb is when idiots like Appel lovers, loves the brand so much, that even when the brand is milking them they are to blind to see it."

When you buy something just because it's a particular brand, you're doing yourself a disservice. If you shop around, you could get something better and cheaper made by somebody else.

Having favourite brands is fine, just give them a higher weighting when weighing up your options, but to not consider any other products other than those made by your favourite brand is incredibly short-sighted and ridiculous.

What happened, in a nutshell, was that Apple complied with the UK courts, releasing a statement saying Samsung didn't copy the iPad.

Wrong. Apple DID NOT comply with the court order. The court order is not a simple "put a sentence on yer website". It has detailed requirement on HOW you need to do it.

Frivolous? Samsung copied the 2-3 gen iphone and ipad and sold it under a different name.. Hey, don't get me wrong. My life would be easier if all the itards disappeared, but if I designed something and a foreign company "copied" the design and intentionally made it to look like my product in order to mislead the consumer I would be upset too. I really don't care if they sue each other into oblivion, I am very happy with my surface and my windows phone..

zerointerrupt said,
Frivolous? Samsung copied the 2-3 gen iphone and ipad and sold it under a different name.. Hey, don't get me wrong. My life would be easier if all the itards disappeared, but if I designed something and a foreign company "copied" the design and intentionally made it to look like my product in order to mislead the consumer I would be upset too. I really don't care if they sue each other into oblivion, I am very happy with my surface and my windows phone..
FALSE!!! They did not. If you had the 1st Gen Galaxy S looked like an iPhone 3G/3GS I would have been on your side to a point. Yes that model looks a lot like the iPhone, except Samsung had a previous device in 2006 that look like that as well. The evidence was not allowed by the Judge in court. Any evidence that showed Samsung didn't copy was not allowed because if it was, they would have won. But then again thanks to the bias jury members, the case is going o be dropped and Apple is going to come up the loser once the Court of Appeals has a look at the case.

Even an idiot should be able to Google the Samsung F700 and see Samsung already had the idea before Apple rushed. You sheep seem to think that just because someone comes to market first, they conceived the idea. Apple was first to market with a PC bearing a GUI. But they stole it, didn't they?

Apple rushed iOS to beat Google because they saw where Google was going. They knew Google would kick their ass eventually because Android si the Windows of smartphones and they knew what happened last time. THEY GOT BEAT.

Samsung stole Apple's iPad style? NO THEY DIDNT. Every court has found Samsung didn't infringe but the US court. One court also sided with Apple which is why the Galaxy 10.1N came out that had the needed changes. Apple didn't like it, but the court said the changes were significant enough to pass. Apple stole the tablet concept from many tablets that predate the iapd for more than a decade. Today's manufacturing capabilities has allowed for TODAY's tablets to be more minimalistic in style. Taking an existing concept and making it thinner and using nicer materials to make it look good is not new and certainly not owned. Samsung still uses plastic but makes it look better. The Galaxy S 10.1 II looks BETTER than an iPad. The only reason I didn't get one is because I don't like Android tablets at all. But I did consider it and the Note 10.1 because I love to draw. But since the Note II is avail, I will get that so that I still have a smaller device to carry around.

Apple is a joke and those who side with them are a joke too. Samsung didn't copy Apple. They simply are competing against Apple and playing the game the same way and Apple is crying fowl because they are a bunch of *****-cats.

Hey, here is a thought... Stop selling your product in the UK..

I'm not an Apple fan by any stretch but, it appears to me that Apple is getting the shaft.

zerointerrupt said,
Hey, here is a thought... Stop selling your product in the UK..

I'm not an Apple fan by any stretch but, it appears to me that Apple is getting the shaft.

It's normal procedure in UK courts for the loser in a lawsuit to pay the winners legal fees. Don't really see the point in the news article really, as this is default behaviour in our courts.

What would be newsworthy, is them NOT paying Samsung's fees.

zerointerrupt said,
Hey, here is a thought... Stop selling your product in the UK..

I'm not an Apple fan by any stretch but, it appears to me that Apple is getting the shaft.

Missed the apple vs Samsung trial? Apple is the one shafting others.

What Legal Team would think it was a good idea to include details from court cases in different countries... This is absurd!

Well at least this is far more interesting and entertaining than Jersey Shore (I've never even bothered to watch that "show")

neonspark said,
sounds fair. too bad the US doesn't always have this loser pay precedent.

The judge that ruled in apples favor ALWAYS rules in apples favor, and to top it off its apples home country, so obviously theyll win there. Luckily apples products suck, and theyre going downhill since everyones gonna be aggressive with patents that apple has no new features to add to their devices..iphone 5 got panorama camera..ohhhh....so amazing../sarcasm.

With the whole product line failing, they know they've backed themselves into a corner and cant 'innovate' anything themselves. Theyre going through litigation instead.