Bill Gates on why the Boy Scouts should reverse ban on gays: 'Because it's 2013'


Bill Gates said the Boy Scouts of America should reverse its ban on gay members and leaders.

Bill Gates has never been one to shy away from important societal issues, and that was evident at a recent event when he responded to a question on whether the Boy Scouts should reverse its ban on gay members in a rather blunt fashion.

At Politico's Playbook Cocktails interview series on Wednesday, Gates was asked if he thought the organization should "rescind its ban on gay members and leaders." He responded with one word: "Absolutely." When asked why he thought that, Gates gave another simple answer, saying, "Because it's 2013." The response was met with laughter and applause from the audience.

While the line of questioning may seem random, it originated because Gates himself was a member of the organization for several years in his youth. Gates recalled multiple memories as a Scout, saying he learned how to tie knots, weave baskets and hike long trails.

Microsoft and many leading technology companies such as Apple and Google are widely regarded for their progressive stances on issues such as gay rights. The company has also long been a supporter of Democratic politicians, as its employees primarily donated their money to Democrats, and Microsoft itself was the second-leading corporate contributor to the Democratic National Committee last year.

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I can't believe there are still so many people here that have an issue with homosexuality?
As Gates said, It's 2013, can we move past this and let everybody live their lives equally

Stoffel said,
I can't believe there are still so many people here that have an issue with homosexuality?
As Gates said, It's 2013, can we move past this and let everybody live their lives equally

+1

Totally agree. Its such a dumb thing to be happening in this day in age. No reason why gays shouldnt have the same rights as others. I mean come people. Get over it already.

YanksOnTop said,
Totally agree. Its such a dumb thing to be happening in this day in age. No reason why gays shouldnt have the same rights as others. I mean come people. Get over it already.

+1

His answer is proper. Because its 2013 - simply means its well past the point of stoneage thinking, if you want to adhere to that backwards thinking then you are living in the past.

Why is it anyones business how someone wants to live their life? It doesn't affect their life yet they think its necessary to discriminate against them. Sounds like a lot of closeted people hating on others because they hate themselves.

pgn1 said,
His answer is proper. Because its 2013 - simply means its well past the point of stoneage thinking, if you want to adhere to that backwards thinking then you are living in the past.

Why is it anyones business how someone wants to live their life? It doesn't affect their life yet they think its necessary to discriminate against them. Sounds like a lot of closeted people hating on others because they hate themselves.


Agreed. People need to move on with the times...

Torolol said,
pft, just make your own Gay Scouts, problem solved.

And back in the 1950s that statement would have been: pft, just make your own Black Scouts, problem solved.

People like to self segregate anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if they did make a Gay Scouts after homosexuality is commonly accepted (it's getting there). After all, they still have black colleges, black entertainment TV, etc. today.

Enron said,
People like to self segregate anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if they did make a Gay Scouts after homosexuality is commonly accepted (it's getting there). After all, they still have black colleges, black entertainment TV, etc. today.
That's stupid... the problem being that when one becomes a Boy Scout he may not necessarily know he's gay, and if he does, he may not be willing to "come out", but may do so later.

If you're black, everyone knows you're black. Homosexuality doesn't work the same way, which is why we don't have "gay schools". Segregation like that also isn't healthy.

On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my Country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

The Boy Scout oath. Notice the part about God. Like it or not, the Boy Scouts of America is a faith based organization, and also like it or not, the Bible is very clear about homosexuality. From a biblical viewpoint, homosexual behavior breaks the oath.

Agree or disagree with homosexuality, but as long as the Boy Scouts of America is faith based, there is only one way it can decide to go.

Qun Mang said,
On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my Country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

The Boy Scout oath. Notice the part about God. Like it or not, the Boy Scouts of America is a faith based organization, and also like it or not, the Bible is very clear about homosexuality. From a biblical viewpoint, homosexual behavior breaks the oath.

Agree or disagree with homosexuality, but as long as the Boy Scouts of America is faith based, there is only one way it can decide to go.


which would be fine if they weren't accepting so much taxpayer dollars in assistance / support. The minute you take that first dollar, you have to be inclusive.

Qun Mang said,
Like it or not, the Boy Scouts of America is a faith based organization, and also like it or not, the Bible is very clear about homosexuality. From a biblical viewpoint, homosexual behavior breaks the oath.

That simply isn't true. There are many Christian denominations that accept and embrace homosexuality. The Bible can be twisted to support or oppose anything.

And that is one of many reasons why the vast majority of organizations that call themselves "Christian" are anything but Christian. Also referred to in Revelations as "Babylon the Great" or the entire world organization of false religion. To be a Christian you have to follow ALL the rules that God set in the Bible. You cannot pick-and-choose what you think is best. As soon as you start doing that, you are a false-Christian and nothing more. You think there are rules in the Bible that are "outdated" and no longer apply? Then you are saying you know better than God and/or that He is a liar. Have fun with that!

You all have to pick and choose, Either that or end up in jail for murder. Fundis love to quote the abomination part... Death penalty part not so much

RottGutt said,
To be a Christian you have to follow ALL the rules that God set in the Bible. You cannot pick-and-choose what you think is best. As soon as you start doing that, you are a false-Christian and nothing more.

You say that as if the Bible isn't completely contradictory.

Qun Mang said,
The Boy Scout oath. Notice the part about God. Like it or not, the Boy Scouts of America is a faith based organization, and also like it or not, the Bible is very clear about homosexuality. From a biblical viewpoint, homosexual behavior breaks the oath.

Agree or disagree with homosexuality, but as long as the Boy Scouts of America is faith based, there is only one way it can decide to go.

I get your point but it's incorrect. Homosexuality can be compatible with Christianity, just as are many things that previously were not. Faith and its interpretation of holy texts changes as society changes. From a Biblical viewpoint, Scouts should completely accept slavery too.

You either accept EVERYTHING in the Bible as it is, or you cherry-pick. As basically ALL Christians cherry-pick, the debate is not about what the Bible says, but which parts of it to pick out. This of course can and does change, which is why we have many different denominations that believe different things and why the religion has changed over the centuries. This means the Boy Scouts can still allow gays and be faith-based.

RottGutt said,
And that is one of many reasons why the vast majority of organizations that call themselves "Christian" are anything but Christian. Also referred to in Revelations as "Babylon the Great" or the entire world organization of false religion. To be a Christian you have to follow ALL the rules that God set in the Bible. You cannot pick-and-choose what you think is best. As soon as you start doing that, you are a false-Christian and nothing more. You think there are rules in the Bible that are "outdated" and no longer apply? Then you are saying you know better than God and/or that He is a liar. Have fun with that!

Exactly, which is why pretty much all Christians are FAKE. It's almost impossible to follow the Bible as it's written, which is why it's so stupid.

Not sure why someone would ask Bill Gates about the Boy Scouts...

A Scout is:
•Trustworthy,
•Loyal,
•Helpful,
•Friendly,
•Courteous,
•Kind,
•Obedient,
•Cheerful,
•Thrifty,
•Brave,
•Clean,

Just about everything Bill Gates WASN'T when he stole ideas from many people.

Um.. FYI.. Im pretty sure that Jobs was in that same boat.. They didnt call them pirates for nothing What Gates did in the passed is nothing compared to how he has been living since then. He has been more than any Scout could ever be..

I say keep that ban. Why? Because being prejudice is fun. I like when entire groups of people become collectively butthurt.

He's right of course. Not sure why it needs someone like Bill Gates though to remind people of something that should be common sense. Or why this would be news even. Did anyone seriously expect any other answer to such a question from him?

Memnochxx said,
This article really has no place being on this website.

It's neoWIN. It'ss Bill, WINdows, Gates.

Anything from his mouth is topnews on a site like this.

Ronnet said
Anything from his mouth is topnews on a site like this.
Actually I saw this on the Huffington Post‎ too, and not everything is top news..

Anthony Tosie said,
We constantly post articles about what Bill Gates is doing now and his notable comments and endeavors. Why would we stop doing that?

Exactly. This most definitely has a place on Neowin and things like this should continue to be reported on regardless of the whining of a bigoted minority. Good job Neowin. They can always not read it if they don't want to.

he wants to give boys who are attracted to males, that doesn't sound good to me. This will result in increased paedophile victims.

Btw, why is this on neowin, bill gates was microsoft ceo years ago and this article doesn't have anything to do with computing.

Exactly, this should be on some general news website not Neowin. Just because it's Bill Gates does not mean it is tech-related. Perhaps in the forums, but not as a main news article.

Exactly torrentthief, And what about those pedo teachers around little girls and boys all day hetro or homo it will result in increased paedophile victims.

Follow your bonkers logic to its logical conclusion and stay away from any young girls, Because your attracted to women right ? Well it follows then that your also attracted to young girls aswell.

Oh wait that only applys to the gays.

siah1214 said,

In the eyes of paranoid bigoted homophobes, yes.

Agreed. Being gay no more makes you a pedophile than being straight does. The argument is asinine...

torrentthief said,
he wants to give boys who are attracted to males, that doesn't sound good to me. This will result in increased paedophile victims.

Btw, why is this on neowin, bill gates was microsoft ceo years ago and this article doesn't have anything to do with computing.


what is really scary is that in 2013 we still witness a such high level of groundless ignorance.

torrentthief, going by your complete lack of knowledge, intelligence and common sense, I am surprised you even know how to spell "paedophile", let alone use a computer.

bc its 2013? Sounds like something teens in this generation would say! Its 2013, everyone is doing drugs so its cool....give better reasons..

freak180 said,
bc its 2013? Sounds like something teens in this generation would say! Its 2013, everyone is doing drugs so its cool....give better reasons..

Agreed, its a none logical answer which will obviously be accepted because everyone loves it (hey ya'll, it's 2013, get with the program).

I respect Bill on a tech level for what he has done, his intelligence and achievements but this is lame. I will add though that I have no idea what this interview is (as in the context), nor do I know the audience, so its unfair of me to judge - sometimes you have to 'give em what they want' I suppose.

Because it's 2013 and certain human rights should be implied. It's an unjust prejudice against a large part of the world's population.

Simon said,
Because it's 2013 and certain human rights should be implied. It's an unjust prejudice against a large part of the world's population.

Exactly. And no more "reason" is needed.

"large part of the worlds population" my arse. They are a squeaky wheel minority, who have been able to infiltrate some high level positions and change laws as a result.

Much like a lot of other things politicians do, the general population do not agree with it.

freak180 said,
bc its 2013? Sounds like something teens in this generation would say! Its 2013, everyone is doing drugs so its cool....give better reasons..

You need to have good reasons to be nice to fellow humans???
C'mon man, what he said is short and concise because the argument has been tired out already. He could repeat himself, he could say that humans of different backgrounds should be allowed the same opportunity but this stuff is obvious to anyone with half a brain.

dvb2000 said,
Much like a lot of other things politicians do, the general population do not agree with it.

The educated population supports equal rights for same-sex couples. It's just a shame that there are so many ignorant people.

dvb2000 said,
"large part of the worlds population" my arse. They are a squeaky wheel minority, who have been able to infiltrate some high level positions and change laws as a result.

Much like a lot of other things politicians do, the general population do not agree with it.

Replace "same sex marriage" with the word slavery.

duddit2 said,

Agreed, its a none logical answer which will obviously be accepted because everyone loves it (hey ya'll, it's 2013, get with the program).

I respect Bill on a tech level for what he has done, his intelligence and achievements but this is lame. I will add though that I have no idea what this interview is (as in the context), nor do I know the audience, so its unfair of me to judge - sometimes you have to 'give em what they want' I suppose.

It gave a synthetic answer which is, IMO, perfectly appropriated.
Few hundreds years ago gays were burnt at stake; civilization evolves and, at least in the majority of civilized Nations this does not happens anymore.
The fact that for almost two thousands year we regressed does not mean that we could not improve again, and it will never too soon.

dvb2000 said,
"large part of the worlds population" my arse. They are a squeaky wheel minority, who have been able to infiltrate some high level positions and change laws as a result.

Much like a lot of other things politicians do, the general population do not agree with it.


And you are the self appointed spoke person for this so called "general population"?

i usually agree with u dagamar34 wether it be here or The Verge but this is where I draw the line. As a man of color I totally think this is different. I don't treat gay people any different but it is just morally wrong.

Ezekiel Carsella said,
i usually agree with u dagamar34 wether it be here or The Verge but this is where I draw the line. As a man of color I totally think this is different. I don't treat gay people any different but it is just morally wrong.

Totally different because you are not the one being discriminated against this time

TPreston said,

Totally different because you are not the one being discriminated against this time


+1. It's embarrassing to see people that are all for rights for themselves, but would deny these rights to another minority... THAT is "morally wrong".

M_Lyons10 said,

+1. It's embarrassing to see people that are all for rights for themselves, but would deny these rights to another minority... THAT is "morally wrong".

Could not agree more.....
Custom tailored morality....

blacks are the minority? please... black people get all types of breaks because we are black. which i think is stupid. 1) A black coach has to be reviewed (NFL) before a team can give someone a coaching job. 2) Because we are the po' and you got to give somethin to the po' people we get all the sympathy. 3) Numbers are soon to be in African-American's favor (but I am Jamaican so that kinda doesn't work for me) if our abortion rate wasn't so high. besides are people really discriminating against them? I mean they can go do whatever they do that doesn't lead to a child on their own do they have to get married husband to husband wife to wife? Why shouldn't we preserve marriage between 1 man and 1 woman?

Why should we? Marriage is religious and/or political in nature. The issue is that it's such a tired meme in society and carries legal benefits with it. It's just foolish thinking and unfortunately from someone who has been persecuted themselves.

How many "missionaries" have done harm because they saw people they found immoral? The most widely publicized case recently was of that group that literally kidnapped several children in Haiti after the earthquake to take them out of a "heathen place".

Morals have ****-all to do with equality.

M_Lyons10 said,

Exactly. And no more "reason" is needed.

you sir, got that spot on.
you shouldn't need to explain why being prejudice is wrong. Especially since its 2013!! haha..

Seriously, its like asking why racism is wrong... does it really need to be explained? I mean, the two are different topics, but both display hatred towards a group of people(s).

freak180 said,
bc its 2013? Sounds like something teens in this generation would say! Its 2013, everyone is doing drugs so its cool....give better reasons..

There is no better reasons yo, but simply you should not be discriminating someone for their sexuality.

freak180 said,
bc its 2013? Sounds like something teens in this generation would say! Its 2013, everyone is doing drugs so its cool....give better reasons..

It's self-explanatory. We don't live in dark ages anymore.

I think his comment was simply to imply that at this day an age we should be more enlightened and not acting like we have in the past

auziez said,

you sir, got that spot on.
you shouldn't need to explain why being prejudice is wrong. Especially since its 2013!! haha..

Seriously, its like asking why racism is wrong... does it really need to be explained? I mean, the two are different topics, but both display hatred towards a group of people(s).


Thank you. I could not agree more.

Ezekiel Carsella said,
Why shouldn't we preserve marriage between 1 man and 1 woman?
First, who the f*** brought up marriage? This is about allowing gays to openly take part in the Boy Scouts, LOL. Talk about off-topic.

Second, if you like preserving things, do you think wives should be totally subordinate to their husbands? Should the bride be stoned to death if she can't prove her virginity? Should interfaith marriages also be illegal? Maybe we should preserve slavery too while we're at it. /s