Microsoft asking Chinese companies to stop pirating Office

Software piracy is a known problem around the world, but it is a particular concern in China, which the US government has claimed in the past has not done enough to curb pirated software sales. Today, a new report claims that Microsoft has asked four state-owned companies in China to stop using unauthorized version of its Microsoft Office software suite, along with versions of its Windows software

Bloomberg reports, via unnamed sources, that Microsoft filed a complaint in August against CNPC, China Post Group, China Railway Construction Corp. and Travelsky Technology Ltd. to the Chinese government. The complaint claims that there is extensive use of unauthorized versions of its software in place in all four companies.

The report claims that, in the case against China Railway Construction, 84 percent of the company's Office software is pirated and it adds that 97 percent of its Windows server client software is also unauthorized.

Microsoft has yet to comment officially on the allegations. In a statement, China Railway Construction said, "We do not rule out the possibility some subsidiary units may have used unauthorized software, but it certainly is not such a large proportion. The company attaches great importance to this matter, and we are holding an internal inquiry." None of the other companies listed in the story have commented on Microsoft's complaint.

Source: Bloomberg

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interesting part of the story missing is HOW did M$ know this accurate info ?

and for now on I will be using M$ in all references to Microsoft.
I love the fact that tech nerds get all wound up and foam at the mouth about it !
Hilarious !

simplezz said,
I don't know why they don't just use GNU/Linux and LibreOffice. Then everyone would be happy.

Except the people who acually end up having to use that garbage.

naap51stang said,
Why won't they stop? Why would they? Heck, they OWN most of America's DEBT, they can pretty much do as they wish.

And then what? If the US drops China, EU will do too. BOOM instant destruction of Chinese economy.

Shadowzz said,
And then what? If the US drops China, EU will do too. BOOM instant destruction of Chinese economy.

Really?

mahara said,

Really?


Yes
China has problems on its own. They build ghost towns which housing that costs the same as European housing but there's no one that moves in. No one wants to live in a ghost town. The vast majority can't afford the most basic housing in the ghost towns.
China builds non-stop at a very high rate to keep the economy in shape, just like the US spends a lot of money on war in the middle east.
Both economies stay in shape with the same basic idiocy. China depends heavly on the USA for their exports and the USA depends heavly on China for manufacturing. USA and China go hand-in-hand.

bomba6 said,
Chinese companies reply: OK.

Not necessarily. The Chinese government has a policy of not using pirated software. (In return, Microsoft has made a number of concessions, including disclosing the Windows source code.)

The question is whether or not this policy is enforced on state-owned companies, or only on actual government departments. For example, CNPC's primary subsidiary PetroChina is about 90% state-owned. (Coincidentally, Bill Gates' friend Warren Buffett used to own a large chunk of the rest.)

There is also the political maneuvering that goes on deep beneath the surface of any Chinese political event. Is Microsoft being equal-opportunity in looking for piracy, or are all the companies controlled by the same faction of the Communist Party? If the latter, and if the accusation of piracy came from a tip, then someone is using Microsoft like a puppet.

(I'm reminded of that situation in Russia last year with pirated Microsoft software on the computers used by anti-government NGOs.)

TomJones said,

Not necessarily. The Chinese government has a policy of not using pirated software. (In return, Microsoft has made a number of concessions, including disclosing the Windows source code.)

The question is whether or not this policy is enforced on state-owned companies, or only on actual government departments. For example, CNPC's primary subsidiary PetroChina is about 90% state-owned. (Coincidentally, Bill Gates' friend Warren Buffett used to own a large chunk of the rest.)

There is also the political maneuvering that goes on deep beneath the surface of any Chinese political event. Is Microsoft being equal-opportunity in looking for piracy, or are all the companies controlled by the same faction of the Communist Party? If the latter, and if the accusation of piracy came from a tip, then someone is using Microsoft like a puppet.

(I'm reminded of that situation in Russia last year with pirated Microsoft software on the computers used by anti-government NGOs.)


MS let China into the sourcecode, however, MS has not given them any sourcecode.
Details are offcourse not a 100% sure/known. But MS actually giving their source code of Windows XP, Vista, 7 ,CE 4,5,6 and Office away without MS supervising every little bit of the process and making sure the code does not leave MS at all..... fat chance

You really think that companies in the US / Europe wouldn't jump on pirated software if it was legal? They'd save millions and the only reason they don't is because it's illegal and the risk of a lawsuit is way too high.

In China, however, the risk of a lawsuit is next to nothing so obviously companies are going to take advantage of it.

I once had to use LibreOffice's version of Excel. It was terrible. The program would hang and sometimes crash simply opening a ~25000 row CSV file containing only DateTime and integer columns.

Dashel said,
Why do commies always pirate rather than use open solutions?

Because Open Office/LibreOffice is a pile of ****, Microsoft Office is leagues ahead of any competitor and to be honest is worth pirating.

Dashel said,
Why do commies always pirate rather than use open solutions?

Because they still prefer to use actual functioning software, even if they don't want to pay for it.

NastySasquatch said,
Because open source software is not as good as real software.

I once opened a M$ Office file with LibreOffice that M$ Office wouldn't open. Also the M$ employees here who are intentionally NOT disclosing their employment intentionally as usual have nothing useful to contribute.

NastySasquatch said,

Because open source software is not as good as real software.

Surely, you mean commercial software. Otherwise 90% of Super Computers are running on "fake" software i.e., Linux.

JAB Creations said,

I once opened a M$ Office file with LibreOffice that M$ Office wouldn't open. Also the M$ employees here who are intentionally NOT disclosing their employment intentionally as usual have nothing useful to contribute.


Lol yeah sure Quit with it already, everyone on this site already knows you're full of ****.

Also using M$ makes you look like you're five.

-Razorfold said,

Lol yeah sure Quit with it already, everyone on this site already knows you're full of ****.

Also using M$ makes you look like you're five.

Doesn't it? It's the most ridiculous thing. I'm so edgy, I say "M$"

SalmanPK said,

Surely, you mean commercial software. Otherwise 90% of Super Computers are running on "fake" software i.e., Linux.


Due to the need of light/small kernels and little overhead. Which Windows is not designed for. NT requires a set of hardware that is rarely found in super computers.
Besides that, the OS isnt build for such immense systems.
However IMHO those cloud services, considering their power. should be considered super computers aswell. Considering MS, Amazon, Apple's clouds run on NT.

NastySasquatch said,

Because open source software is not as good as real software.

bull****. I'd take FOSS over proprietary DRM'd crap anyday of the week.

simplezz said,

bull****. I'd take FOSS over proprietary DRM'd crap anyday of the week.

Good for you. The rest of us actually have work we need to get done.

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Dashel said,
Why do commies always pirate rather than use open solutions?

Because MS products are two expensive and simply impossible to buy for a small and middle business in emerging markets.

Small Business cost $150 and limited to companies with up to just 10 persons. Yet it should be limited by company revenue...

So Business edition cost $250. Average salary in Moscow and Shanghai is ~$1000. In Russian province ~$300-$600 depending on region. In Chinese province even smaller - ~$200-$350 So average salary is 4-12 times smaller than average in US.

Windows and Office cost same price (or actually slightly larger, because MS rounding exchange rates to up).

So, can you imaging Office Home priced at $500-$1000 in US? Or Business priced at $1300-$2500? Will you buy it for that price?

coth said,

Because MS products are two expensive and simply impossible to buy for a small and middle business in emerging markets.?

Microsoft actually discounts Windows client and Microsoft Office for developing markets heavily. These countries just believe they should not pay for software, period. I kinda understand it from their philosophy too, which is, its not a tangible product, you can't touch or feel software, so why should you pay for it? So, there should be more education about the value of software and why paying for it matters. But Microsoft has done what they can to make it conveniently affordable, I believe you can get it for $50 for a legitimate license.