New iPad vs Transformer Prime benchmarks results are mixed

You may remember that when Apple announced the new iPad earlier this month, the company bragged about how its A5X processor had quad-core graphics support that was four times that of NVIDIA's quad-core Tegra 3 processor. You may also remember that NVIDIA then asked Apple to prove their statements and offer their benchmarks to support their claims.

Apple, as expected, did not comment on NVIDIA's challenge. However, Laptopmag.com  has now done their own independent testing of the A5X and the Tegra 3, using the new iPad and Asus' Transformer Prime tablets; the final result backs up Apple's claims but only to a point.

Using the 2.1 version of the GLBenchmark 2.1 graphics test program, the web site said that the new iPad processed 6718 frames at a rate of 60 fps on the Egypt Standard test. This compares to the Transformer Prime’s 5,939 frames at 53 fps on the same test. Using GLBenchmark's Geometric test, the new iPad scored 7,530,524 frames at a rate of 57 fps compared to the Transformer Prime's 3,523,926 frames at a rate of 27 fps.

However, using the processor power-based benchmark Geekbench produced very different results. In that case, the Transformer Prime generated an overall score of 1,571 compared to the new iPad's score of 692.

Not only that, but some games on the Transformer Prime have additional visual effects compared to the versions currently available on The New iPad. For example, the game Riptide on the Asus tablet had more reflections in the water compared to the iPad version. When running Shadowgun, the Transformer Prime showed off flags in the levels that moved; those flags did not show up in the iPad version. You can see the differences in the video above.

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I went with the Fragment test as the highest, so this works out at 1370748.5 frames per core @ 1.6Ghz. Now if the iPad gets 7.5mil, then this is what... approx 1882631 per core @ 2Ghz??

I need to look into this later.... i love pulling benchmarks apart... especially ones that dont add up

No offense, but i've ran these on my SGS2, not exactly a like-for-like benchmark, but neither is the iPad vs the Prime.

My OC'd SGS2 @ 1.6Gz gets 6763 Frames at 60 fps on the GL Benchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard Test (V-Synch Limit from start to finish). I can back that up with a screenshot, no problem... as i know what the sharks are like.

I've also ran the Geometric Test, all 3 actually as the specific one was not detailed. YOu have Vertex Weighted, Fragment Weighted and Balanced.

All 3 results are below, again i can provide a screenshot directly from my device:

Geometric Test:
Vertex: 2475112 (19fps)
Fragment: 2741497 (7fps)
Balanced: 8159582 (2fps)

I can buy the Geekbench app, but i can only see Geekbench2, not Geekbench. The screenshots of the application before you buy showthe HTC Nexus One (Android 2.3.6) getting a score of 469 with Qualcomm ARMv7 998Mhz and 386MB Ram. I have no doubt that my SGS 2 will destroy the iPads 692 Score.

Does anyone know what the default cores are set to on the Prime and the iPad without me looking into it?


The point is the people with Ipad 1/Ipad 2 IS buying Ipad 3 .. I still use my original Galaxy Tab as i dont feel the urge to upgrade it ... Ipad will always have more sale as there is only 1 Ipad from Apple .. will u buy an Ipad 1 or an Ipad 3 ?? Simple aint it .. for Android tabs there are so many to chose from .. a fair comparison would be to use the sum of all Android tabs sold and compare with the Ipad ..

A tablet is not made for games, anyone buying a tablet for games is an idiot. So in the end, the much stronger CPU of the Tegra 3 is going to improve the usability of the tablet the most. I would definitely go Prime if I was going to buy either. Thankfully, my current tablet is more than fine.

Slammers said,
A tablet is not made for games, anyone buying a tablet for games is an idiot. So in the end, the much stronger CPU of the Tegra 3 is going to improve the usability of the tablet the most. I would definitely go Prime if I was going to buy either. Thankfully, my current tablet is more than fine.

What exactly on a tablet needs a more powerful CPU than the iPad 2? It's a tablet not a render station either. In fact most things tha require more cu can use the gpu more efficiently anyway.

I wonder if ANY Android tablet sold 3 million in a weekend? I guess no benchmark can beat that!! Money in the bank for Apple. I have my "new iPad" and that screen is simply wonderful, upgraded from my iPad 1.... Everything is crisp, you can't see the pixels!

I read lots of magazine and book and I can tell you, it makes a huge difference on the comfort of my eyes.

Updated games for the new iPad look awesome too.

TruckWEB said,
I wonder if ANY Android tablet sold 3 million in a weekend? I guess no benchmark can beat that!! Money in the bank for Apple. I have my "new iPad" and that screen is simply wonderful, upgraded from my iPad 1.... Everything is crisp, you can't see the pixels!

I read lots of magazine and book and I can tell you, it makes a huge difference on the comfort of my eyes.

Updated games for the new iPad look awesome too.


3 Million is about right. That is how many hard core apple fans there are. The cult of Apple consists of only Apple's hard core fans.

Apple has sold 3 million iPad 3's over the past weekend, and it should be obvious that those who purchased one really didn't care about benchmarks. And, those who have purchased the iPad 1G, and the iPad 2 G didn't care one bit about benchmarks. So what is the real purpose for benchmarks; to appease only geeks/techies

Pam14160 said,
Apple has sold 3 million iPad 3's over the past weekend, and it should be obvious that those who purchased one really didn't care about benchmarks. And, those who have purchased the iPad 1G, and the iPad 2 G didn't care one bit about benchmarks. So what is the real purpose for benchmarks; to appease only geeks/techies

Indeed!

One more addition to my above reply is I will be dropping any interest to either Android or Apple base tablet once the Windows based Tablet; Lenovo Ideapad Yoga comes out or one like it or better. Just exampling that style of tablet should give you an idea of what I'm looking for.

Flippinwindows said,
One more addition to my above reply is I will be dropping any interest to either Android or Apple base tablet once the Windows based Tablet; Lenovo Ideapad Yoga comes out or one like it or better. Just exampling that style of tablet should give you an idea of what I'm looking for.

I can't wait for it too!

I have a bit of an issue with myself; actually its personal, but needing to express it. I saw a demo by Soldierknowsbest on YouTube demoing games on the "New IPAD" and I have to say I was very impress. That though could prove very damaging right now since I love Android base Tablets; but the last Tablet I had was and still is the Motorola Xoom. Now I've had my eye on the Asus Transformer Prime 700....or is it the 300 series....anyways, How much more can the Asus Transformer Prime go head to head with the "New IPAD" with out the user deep down inside feel remorseful or even envious for purchasing the Asus over the IPAD?

I'm no fan of any Apple product; however I do own a 4th Gen IPOD Touch 64GB for
convenience in storage. I do not like the IOS and how I have to go through the hassle of backing up my Library.

I am however a huge fan of the very particular Hybrid Tablet; Asus Transformer Prime with its keyboard dock that serves as a great input accessory and battery extension to the tablet. This is what I see myself setting myself apart of the other me that would take interest in investing in an IPAD; but that sorta faded a bit due to the demo I seen with the games. All in all what I'm looking to hear from a non hater is the assurance that a Asus Transformer Prime or one like it can serve as a gaming device flawlessly as well as a great productivity tool.

I encourage anyone to share their unbiased knowledge or consulting advice.

The thing is, I hate playing most games on my iPad. There are a few "touch" games that are brilliant on the iPad like Ticket to Ride, Osmos, World of Goo, and of course all the Angry Bird/Cut the Rope type games1.

Games that have the touch screen "joysticks" like the one in the above demo become very uncomfortable for me to play for longer than about 15 minutes. I wouldn't recommend you base your decision on games given my experience. I actually prefer to play games on my iPhone because I can go for longer bursts and are much more mobile for obvious reasons.

When I play ShadowGun and Riptide on my Prime, I sometimes connect my tablet to my monitor via HDMI and connect my XBOX wireless receiver for Windows to the USB port on the dock so I can I play with my controller, no root required.

Another feature that doesn't require root is using my external USB 2.5" 1TB drive formatted as NTFS to play my MKVs through BS Player Lite or some other player. Alternatively, you could do this with the MicroSD card in the tablet or a USB key or full size SD card in the dock.

Edited by Turge, Mar 20 2012, 10:26am :

How is it false advertising? At least the GLBenchmark tests demonstrate that Apple's claims are true, according to the article.

'Using GLBenchmark's Geometric test, the new iPad scored 7,530,524 frames at a rate of 57 fps compared to the Transformer Prime's 3,523,926 frames at a rate of 27 fps.'

Where does that say 4x? You really do need to take some basic math.

Shadrack said,
How is it false advertising? At least the GLBenchmark tests demonstrate that Apple's claims are true, according to the article.

I see, I overlooked that Apple was claiming it was "4x" faster.

That being said, I'm sure Apple could probably perform some benchmark that shows where they got the "4x" from. It would probably be a dishonest representation but enough to kill any possibility of a false marketing or defamatory lawsuit.

MDboyz said,

Where does that say 4x? You really do need to take some basic math.

Multiply that by the amount of pixels the iPad is pushing and you'll get your question answered.

Euphoria said,

Multiply that by the amount of pixels the iPad is pushing and you'll get your question answered.

The benchmark is using a fixed resolution, not native AFAIK.

Shadrack said,
I see, I overlooked that Apple was claiming it was "4x" faster.

Yes, most Apple users tend to do that...

still1 said,

one benchmark doesn't meant anything... they did a bunch and they seem to be almost a match... apple is known for false marketing...

what's a bunch? that's the biggest android fanboy site their is reporting that. and only thing that matches or tegra beats is CPU from what i have read.

rajputwarrior said,

what's a bunch? that's the biggest android fanboy site their is reporting that. and only thing that matches or tegra beats is CPU from what i have read.


so u didnt read the article or the comparison!! that's the bunch!

I forgot how much I love Laptop magazine. I pick one up every now and then at the newsstand and they offer some of the best mobile device content out there. I need to just get myself a subscription.

The benchmarks are close, and Apple really shouldn't have "gone there" (but they did)... I doubt anyone will base their buying decisions on this particular benchmark comparison. More than likely people will be comparing price and probably have a predisposition to either iOS or Android.

Clean color seen on tablet goes to A5X and splash water on tablet goes to Tegra 3.

I'd say It's mix and tie! Benchmark is pointless and useless

GreenOwner said,
Go Tegra 3!
Tegra 4 is supposed to arrive later this year.

Edit: Finger's crossed for Windows 8 tablets. Since it'll support Dx11, is it too much to expect it to run Crysis?

Edited by AsherGZ, Mar 20 2012, 1:51pm :

-Dave- said,
and we're either of these games optimized for the new ipad, or are they still running as ipad 2 apps ?

Exactly, unless they have now been optimised for the new iPad it's not a very fair comparison. Just checked and the flags don't show on my Xperia S so it is obviously a part of the optimisation on the game for Android.

-Dave- said,
and we're either of these games optimized for the new ipad, or are they still running as ipad 2 apps ?

Were the games optimized for the Transformer? When Apple did their benchmarks, did they optimize the benchmarks for the iPad 3, did their tests run a benchmark that was optimized for the Tegra chipset?

The purpose of benchmarking is to test the hardware/software with the same benchmarks across all platforms. If you are modifying benchmarks to test one specific platform, then you are not measuring the performance of your platform, you are measuring the ability of your developers to optimize code for that platform.

Back in November 2010, the Internet was having a fit because it was claimed that Microsoft had modified IE9 to run the sunspider benchmark better than the other browsers. That they had tweaked the JavaScript engine in IE to produce better code specifically for the sunspider benchmark, while the other browsers were "playing fair" by not optimizing their JavaScript engines for specific benchmarks. It was later proven false, that there were no sunspider specific optimizations. But when it comes to Apple, we need to have specific optimizations in code to make them look better, to back up their "4X" better marketing claims.

-Dave- said,
and we're either of these games optimized for the new ipad, or are they still running as ipad 2 apps ?

It is the same GPU with more cores, if the SGX543MP2 didn't support the effects then the SGX543MP4 will not support them either!