No Love for the RIAA

Well, Neowin members have spoken. The votes are in and the majority of Neowin voting members share no love with the Record Industry Association of America (RIAA). The question posed was:

Above all, I dislike
Apple: 286
Microsoft: 144
MPAA: 287
Piracy: 102
RIAA: 1726

If I had a spare calculator handy it probably looks like a whole lot of percent more than second place Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA).

Maybe we should have waited to see if The Pirate Bay indeed manage to get their micro-nation of Sealand, because unless the RIAA starts it's own Naval division, it looks like the Swedes will bring new meaning to piracy on the high seas!

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I said it before and I'll say it again: Remove piracy and you can remove most of the problems the RIAA and MPAA (and Microsoft) cause for the consumer. Granted these groups have no right telling us that we can't make backups of our discs and dvds, but they also go after people illegally acquire pirated software. I don't think they would be such a big nuisance if you removed piracy.

realisticly thats NEVER going to happen... so they just need to backup off the average joe... as everyone knows the RIAA sues average joes for insane ammounts of money to line there own pockets as they dont give a damn about the artists and i think they pretty much proved this by there actions and stuff they have done from all the posts we have seen on neowin.net about them.

ThaCrip said,
realisticly thats NEVER going to happen... so they just need to backup off the average joe... as everyone knows the RIAA sues average joes for insane ammounts of money to line there own pockets as they dont give a damn about the artists and i think they pretty much proved this by there actions and stuff they have done from all the posts we have seen on neowin.net about them.

Yeah, I don't think piracy will end either because people want more for free and it's a lot easier to take something without paying for it than it is to work for something and buy it. Stop the problem at the source, and the source of the problem is piracy. I for one am taking more and more drastic steps to get away from the things I haven't paid for. It's all software. I don't physically steal or shop lift, but that doesn't make it right for me to download and distribute pirated software. Anyways, if people would try to solve problems instead of creating them, I don't think the RIAA would be the nuisance it's become. Just my 2 cents.

Mathachew said,
I said it before and I'll say it again: Remove piracy and you can remove most of the problems the RIAA and MPAA cause for the consumer.

No. Structure (company) that huge will certainly find way to survive.
The easiest way: they can always create their own "pirate" groups and "sue" them.

For the love of god, someone correct the spelling and grammar in this post.


I tihnk I voted for the MPAA, for the use of their anti-piracy marketing techniques of lies.

I don't understand what reasons people would hate Apple for. I see people mention expensive hardware, but for that reason alone you put them in the same category as RIAA, MPAA, piracy, and Microsoft? Seems like a rather lame point to hate a company for compared to what the other four have done.

Microsoft is a company as well, so there's no reason why Apple should be excluded. What has Apple done? Nothing short of spearheading an extreme fan base and use their marketing machine to manipulate people into spewing rhetorical statements about the greatness of A) the company itself, B) their PCs, er, Macs, and C) their music player, among other things. I don't hate Apple. I can't wait to get my hands on a Mac to dual boot between Windows and OSX. I've got love for the two and Linux, so this is a non-fanboy remark.

Mathachew said,
What has Apple done? Nothing short of spearheading an extreme fan base and use their marketing machine to manipulate people into spewing rhetorical statements about the greatness of A) the company itself, B) their PCs, er, Macs, and C) their music player, among other things.

I don't really see Apple spearheading their fan base, it's more like the fans themselves are over the top by their own free will, which you could say the same about any company with an extreme fan base. If you are talking about Apple's marketing tactics on TV, advertisements, etc. you can't blame them for trying to create a certain image of themselves or "greatness" as you put it. They are after all competing with other companies and want people to buy their products.

Still I don't think those reasons even compare to the suing tactics of the RIAA & MPAA, the negative impacts of piracy, or Microsoft's questionable aggressive business tactics & development decisions with their products.

Ridley Norfair said,
I don't really see Apple spearheading their fan base, it's more like the fans themselves are over the top by their own free will, which you could say the same about any company with an extreme fan base. If you are talking about Apple's marketing tactics on TV, advertisements, etc. you can't blame them for trying to create a certain image of themselves or "greatness" as you put it. They are after all competing with other companies and want people to buy their products.

Still I don't think those reasons even compare to the suing tactics of the RIAA & MPAA, the negative impacts of piracy, or Microsoft's questionable aggressive business tactics & development decisions with their products.

Yeah, Apple's "I'm a PC. I'm a Mac." ads do nothing short of pouring gas on their fan base flame. Not a one bit (Yes, all companies have an extreme fan basel; my experience is that Apple's fan base is among the worst in attitude).

Apple's image on those commercials is one of PC is for old, boring people, Macs are fun and for the young and hip. I read something about a month ago that stated that the majority of Apple users were over the age of 50. Naturally, Apple denies this, can't have that young, hip image tainted by old tards now can we?

For things that Apple has done in just over the last year that immediately come to mind:
1. Currently being sued by some small company called Cisco for trademark infringement, which they knew about and arrogantly ignored.
2. The arrogance of Steve Jobs: "starting up their photo copiers" among other comments
3. The indirect admission that their PowerPC Macs were in fact inferior to PCs by Apple adopting Intel chips, thus making a PC, not a Mac
4. The seemingly criminal stock options activities that have occurred at Apple

Nah, no reason to dislike, hate, or other despise Apple at all. In all seriousness, I'm not keeping a track record for things against Apple. I look forward to buying a Mac some day, and maybe a new iPod since my shuffle just isn't enough and if they add WMA support. Point is, I'm not anti-Apple, I just cannot tolerate arrogance among other things. I'm sure others could give other specific examples of things Apple has done or continues to do, I just don't keep track that much nor do I care that much.

Still think there's no reason to include them?

First of all, Cisco is *not* a small company. Read up on it ;)

Second, Apple's ads are pure garbage. Everyone knows that what iPhoto, iDVD, and iTunes can do, Windows users have been doing for years already with no more effort. And insulting PC users isn't exactly the best way to get them to join your side now is it?

Like I said before, Apple's worst enemy is Steve Jobs and it's "cult" fan base because they are so arrogant and annoying that they stop anyone who would even think about getting an Apple product dead in their tracks. After all, who wants to support a comapny of such arrogance and immaturity?

I really think that if Steve got out of the way and the fanboys clammed up Apple would be much more successful.

But you can't really have one without the other, can you?

crimsonhead said,
Good thing death metal bands aren't under the RIAA umbrella :D

Thats cos no one wants to pirate that crap :P (just jokes)

big_matty5 said,

Thats cos no one wants to pirate that crap :P (just jokes)

i agree with you except i aint joking . lol ... that kind of music SUCKS! ... any of that super hard music where there basically screaming/yelling is music i cant stand listening to... other than that i dont mind any other music.... although country music is one of my least favorite music types, but i can tollerate it unlike death metal type music.

Found a typo of sorts.

because unless the RIAA starts it's on Naval division

Should be "because unless the RIAA starts it's own Naval division" Right? Just helping out. I can catch other peoples typos like that but I can't catch mine. LOL

Sorry to post in old topic.. but I noticed this got fixed and just wanted to say I was only trying to help and hope no one got offended. Typo's happen.

Actually, the Apple fanbois and Steve Jobs are much more aggravating than Apple itself. Apple's technology is decent but it's their unbelievable arrogance and immaturity that keeps their marketshare well under 5%. If Apple had an actual leader and the fanbois could control themselves Apple would be a much better company to deal with and it would be much more successful.

C_Guy said,
Actually, the Apple fanbois and Steve Jobs are much more aggravating than Apple itself. Apple's technology is decent but it's their unbelievable arrogance and immaturity that keeps their marketshare well under 5%. If Apple had an actual leader and the fanbois could control themselves Apple would be a much better company to deal with and it would be much more successful.

Totally agree

What about the calculator in Vista!

Total Votes: 2545
Apple: 11.2%
Microsoft: 5.6%
MPAA: 11.3%
Piracy: 4.0%
RIAA: 67.8%
Yeah, yeah it adds up to 99.9% but I can't be bothered

Its impossible to find anything good about the RIAA frankly.

They don't look out for the interests of consumers or the artists that they are allegedly there to protect.. they just look out for their own interests - by suing people who can't afford to fight back. They're greedy bullys.. and no one likes a bully.