Nokia's 'Sirius' Windows RT tablet to be called Lumia 2520?

On Monday, Microsoft will announce its second-generation Surface tablets in New York - but despite the apparent overlap created by the company's purchase of Nokia's devices business, it appears that plans to launch a Nokia Windows RT tablet remain relatively unchanged. There had been some speculation that the launch might be cancelled, after it was reported that Nokia had delayed the announcement by a month. 

Nokia has since sent out media invitations for that event, to be held in Abu Dhabi on October 22, and thanks to serial leaker @evleaks, who's established a pretty decent track record in revealing tech secrets, a couple more details have emerged. It appears that Nokia's tablet - known until now by its development codename 'Sirius' - will be called the Lumia 2520: 

It also seems that the launch of the tablet remains on track, and will be announced alongside Nokia's new 6-inch Windows Phone phablet next month: 

Known by its 'Bandit' codename, the phablet is expected to be called the Lumia 1520 when it goes on sale later this year, and will be one of the first devices to launch with the latest update to the Windows Phone 8 operating system. The GDR3 update will bring platform support for the kind of uprated hardware that the 1520 will offer, including quad-core processors and Full HD 1080p displays. 

Source: @evleaks | Image via WinSuperSite

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The DESKTOP HAS to stay in WIndows 8/RT for file management alone, also a huge help when working with networks, workgroups, and in home networks.

you remove desktop you remove the most simplest way for file management, and all Modern File management apps are horrible

and yes I use my RT to view photos, docs, and music with out using WinRT apps. In fact I spend most my time at the desktop with my RT device.

I even configured ie to always use the desktop version and never touch the horrible WinRT version of iE... who thought that was a good idea anyways?

btw there a facebook app its called IE @ http://www.facebook.com (don't for get to bookmark for fast access)

I hate when people complain there no app for a webpage when in fact there is a app its called your web browser. No app can beat the real experiences.

Edited by WolfSilverLone, Sep 21 2013, 8:27pm :

Ci7 said,
^ infact with Windows 8.1 you can pin web pages to the Start Screen

that is effectively an app!

u could do that before if u used IE for WinRT... but that version of IE is complete garbage. how ever you basically proved my point . On that note u really can't argue saying that's not the same thing, since they both access the same location and both require a connection. The only difference is how the content if viewed

i wish they did something with Pro! I doubt this thing will sell at that price point. I mean besides having usb (for all my device) and MS office, i see no reason in owning this. I might as well pick a Nexus or iPad.

Nokia Sirius RT sounds like a better name to me than Lumia 2520. They get the Nokia brand in, Sirius is a shining star in the sky, and RT to get the platform as part of it. And they'll get that tainted Windows brand left out.

But hey, I'm not one of their bright marketers...

I suppose "2520" is sexy and exciting in a way I do not understand... I'm sure numerologists love it!

100% agree. Nokia has had this number **** obsession for waaaaaaay too long. Hopefully Microsoft will stop it sooner rather than later.
Nokia Sirius sounds much better than 2520.... and guess what... it is also much easier to memorize.

Not a fan of that name. They really need to ditch the big numbers. They can come up with a better name like Lumia ___

If I was Microsoft I would delay this device. Windows RT is just not ready to compete on an App basis. 8.1 runs smooth but the app story is pretty rough. Mail is finally good but the rest still have a ways to go. Music especially is bad compared to what Google and Apple are offering on their latest tablets. And although 8.1 runs smooth from an OS level, launching apps doesn't compete with the competition yet from a speed standpoint.

Surface name is already tainted in the tablet space so release that to build around and then when they get the core apps right and launching them fast, release a high end Nokia tablet.

incendy said,
If I was Microsoft I would delay this device. Windows RT is just not ready to compete on an App basis. 8.1 runs smooth but the app story is pretty rough. Mail is finally good but the rest still have a ways to go. Music especially is bad compared to what Google and Apple are offering on their latest tablets. And although 8.1 runs smooth from an OS level, launching apps doesn't compete with the competition yet from a speed standpoint.

Surface name is already tainted in the tablet space so release that to build around and then when they get the core apps right and launching them fast, release a high end Nokia tablet.

Couldn't be farther from the truth. The app experience is on par with any other mobile OS on the market. Sure, Facebook is missing, but that's coming. Also, from a productivity standpoint, WinRT blows everyone else away.

And the Surface name is far from tainted. Many are looking forward to the new tablets on Monday.

Dot Matrix said,

Couldn't be farther from the truth. The app experience is on par with any other mobile OS on the market. Sure, Facebook is missing, but that's coming. Also, from a productivity standpoint, WinRT blows everyone else away.

And the Surface name is far from tainted. Many are looking forward to the new tablets on Monday.

There is no arguing that apps open slower on Surface RT compared to iPad. There is also no arguing that the app story on RT is way behind. Even an iPad 2 opens apps faster than RT.

As for productivity, that is all relative. Snap mode is awesome, but the tegra doesn't really handle it very well. I use snap mode on my pro everyday, but on RT I tend to leave it alone. Also I am not an office user, I do more coding and art work. Neither Surface RT or iPad are well suited for serious work but the iPad does have a lot more options as far as quick mock up sketching goes. Paper especially is useful for mocking up ideas. I have not found anything that is worth using on Surface RT for mocking up ideas.

As for the Surface name, it is definitely tainted. Personally I am excited for Monday but the general public hears the name surface and laughs. Which is sad because the Surface Pro is by far my favorite gadget ever made, I love that device and do almost all my work using it. Surface RT is another story though, as much as I love Microsoft that device has been utterly useless to me.

Nashy said,
Honestly think the desktop is going to mess with the experience on a tablet.

It helps that in 8.1 you don't have to go to the desktop for anything other than some advanced settings. Having used it on my Samsung tablet I don't go into the desktop much at all compared to 8.0.

Nashy said,
Honestly think the desktop is going to mess with the experience on a tablet.

Don't click the desktop tile? 8.1 has more than enough settings in metro mode than you need...

Honestly, it's personal preference, the uses that the desktop side of things has for some users is great.

I just wish everything was Metro in RT personally, because I would use the desktop, knwoing it is there, and then it will frustrate me, and it will make me resent the OS.

Don't get me wrong, I still plan to get one of these.

@Gp007 the problem I see for RT is Atoms. The HP ElitePad I'm evaluating absolutely Rocks with 8.1. 2GB Ram, x32 8.1 Pro, and it flies. I can't imagine how fast it will be with the next gen of Atom.

MS are going to awesome with NOKIA products , MS have so much money to investigate into tech

people don't understand this is not SURFACE , its a LUMIA , and really , NOKIA phones are awesome and a tablet its only to get better

EvilAstroboy said,
MS are going to awesome with NOKIA products , MS have so much money to investigate into tech

people don't understand this is not SURFACE , its a LUMIA , and really , NOKIA phones are awesome and a tablet its only to get better


I can't wait to see them awesome everyone. That money they are investigating will help!

I'm going to assume English is not your native language and not make fun of your grammar. I agree the Nokia will do well, but all Windows tablets will only go as far as the OS and apps will take them. The next round of tablets will do well because there are more and more good apps, and because 8.1 is awesome on tablets.

RT running 8.1 is not bad at all, in fact, it's quite good. Even using current 1st gen hardware. The only issue would be anyone who for some reason believes they can run Win32 apps. Besides, on a new tablet what Win32 app do you need other than Office 2013 and RT comes with Office 2013.

People buying iPads and Android tablets aren't looking to run Windows apps. MS need to differentiate RT in a way that does not lead to expectations that it will legacy Win32 apps.

MorganX said,
RT running 8.1 is not bad at all, in fact, it's quite good. Even using current 1st gen hardware. The only issue would be anyone who for some reason believes they can run Win32 apps. Besides, on a new tablet what Win32 app do you need other than Office 2013 and RT comes with Office 2013.

People buying iPads and Android tablets aren't looking to run Windows apps. MS need to differentiate RT in a way that does not lead to expectations that it will legacy Win32 apps.

Hiding away the desktop would help, if you don't see it then you won't try to install desktop apps to it.

Now you just open a can of worm with hiding desktop. I personally like desktop on my RT. In this case, it's about a choice.

GP007 said,

Hiding away the desktop would help, if you don't see it then you won't try to install desktop apps to it.

minster11 said,
Now you just open a can of worm with hiding desktop. I personally like desktop on my RT. In this case, it's about a choice.

There's a difference between hiding it and removing it, the choice is still there for people who need it. Could be a simple "show desktop tile" in the PC settings app. Those who need it can turn it on and access it, those who don't won't also get confused when seeing it.

ok I misunderstood you.

I think desktop use specifically RT will be temporary as more apps will complement the build in notepad, calculator, office running in metro environment. OneNote severely lacking in metro mode.

Tell you honestly, I rarely go to desktop with my RT other than control panel and office.

GP007 said,

There's a difference between hiding it and removing it, the choice is still there for people who need it. Could be a simple "show desktop tile" in the PC settings app. Those who need it can turn it on and access it, those who don't won't also get confused when seeing it.

GP007 said,

There's a difference between hiding it and removing it, the choice is still there for people who need it. Could be a simple "show desktop tile" in the PC settings app. Those who need it can turn it on and access it, those who don't won't also get confused when seeing it.

Why would you need that? Just unpin it from the Start screen, and pin it if you want it back.

Ideas Man said,

Why would you need that? Just unpin it from the Start screen, and pin it if you want it back.

That's another way to hide it, which was my point. Still if you wan to hide it enough so that only those who really want to use it can, aka, power/techie users and not the general masses then you have some setting that those people will know to look for.

Also by having it be a on/off switch in PC Settings you can have a disclaimer next to it that specifically says that this device can't run x86/Intel applications. In Windows 8/RT people would go to the desktop but there'd be nothing in the OS itself that would say, hey, you can't install desktop apps here even though it looks the same. They'd find out when they actually tried to and it tossed out an error.

Hmm. I look forward to a Nokia tablet, but can't they be considered dangerous? I mean, imagine the hole that thing would make in your floor if you were to drop it...

Dot Matrix said,
Hmm. I look forward to a Nokia tablet, but can't they be considered dangerous? I mean, imagine the hole that thing would make in your floor if you were to drop it...
Buy a cover for your floor.

Dot Matrix said,
Hmm. I look forward to a Nokia tablet, but can't they be considered dangerous? I mean, imagine the hole that thing would make in your floor if you were to drop it...

Well, there's certainly no danger of anybody finding that statement amusing.