NVIDIA: Newest beta drivers beat AMD's Mantle in some cases

AMD has been talking a lot lately about their new Mantle graphics API, which they claim offers better performance for the PC games that support it and run on the company's Radeon chips. Today, NVIDIA fired back with a new beta driver for its GeForce cards, claiming that its performance actually beats Mantle in the three games that use the API.

At the moment, only three PC games support the Mantle API and drivers; Battlefield 4, Thief and the free Star Swarm demo. Today's release of the NVIDIA GeForce 337.50 beta drivers comes with this claim from the company:

Compared to our competitor’s new, much-discussed API, our testing found the combination of the new 337.50 Beta drivers, and DirectX 11, to offer a faster experience with suitably-matched hardware, as found in enthusiast systems:

 

NVIDIA offers a graph showing what they claim are the benchmarks for the three AMD Mantle API PC games compared to those same titles running under NVIDIA's 377.50 beta drivers and the current 335.23 version. The graph shows that the frame rates for those games under the NVIDIA drivers are ahead of those with AMD and Radeon with a GeForce GTX 780 Ti graphics card. The new beta drivers are also supposed to boost performance in a number of other DirectX 11 based PC games by as much as 71 percent, depending on the game and hardware.

NVIDIA also released version 2.0 of its GeForce Experience software, which was made to automatically optimize PC game settings. The new version allows for live footage of PC games to be captured and/or streamed on windowed games, borderless windowed games, and from the desktop. It also allows for gameplay footage to be captured on notebooks that have NVIDIA Kepler and Maxwell based mobile GTX GPUs.

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It has a problem loading with Hyper-V or VT-x enabled, you can disable either one if you are not using them, or downgrade and wait for a fix from NVIDIA.

This is good. I've been an NVIDIA user almost my entire life. I started with 3DFx and jumped to NVIDIA right after the first Geforce. The only Geforce generation I skipped and went with the Radeon 9600 XT instead, was the Geforce 5 series. Those were awful.

Oh, look. Another day, another AMD bashing article. Oh and this has been debunked already, just an Nvidia marketing stunt, that's all.

HawkMan said,
Nice sources

Better than yours if you cant even understand what hw mantle is supposed to help.

Like I said, this is just an marketing stunt, anyone reading up on mantle knows its not supposed to bring ultimate power to high end hw but supposed to help with low end.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,

Better than yours if you cant even understand what hw mantle is supposed to help.

Like I said, this is just an marketing stunt, anyone reading up on mantle knows its not supposed to bring ultimate power to high end hw but supposed to help with low end.


I know what HW it's supposed to help. That doesn't mean you can make a statement that it's been debunked without sources, debunked by who, how... Where...

And just because mantle is supposed to helped hardware where the CPU is the bottleneck doesn't debunk this, which is a test done with high end gamer hardware to show that those building high end gaming rigs don't need to be tricked into the mantle hype.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,

What am I? Google for you? Open extremetech and read away.

Umm you're the one who throws around undocumented claims, it's not my job to document your claims. I just asked you to document yours, I didn't even make any counter claims, yet that video I SOURCED shows that the driver gives significant improvements, on the level of what mantle offers, and that on mid range HW.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Oh I'm sorry.

http://www.extremetech.com/gam...nufacturer-provided-numbers

Here.

This also won't be the first time Nvidia has tried these shady tacticts to actually gain something. I don't have enough time to find the links but I hope you can find them yourself this time.

Meanwhile other people like the guy in the YouTube video are getting significant performance increases. He want from lower end graphics without msaa to ultra AND got higher frame rate.

HawkMan said,

Meanwhile other people like the guy in the YouTube video are getting significant performance increases. He want from lower end graphics without msaa to ultra AND got higher frame rate.

While 3 biggest review sites call nvidias bs. I'll take their words on a youtuber any day.

At stock speeds the 780ti beats the 290x at 1080p with or without mantle which is why its priced like £100 more. The 6core Intel wont be the bottleneck, neither is a quadcore i7 so putting it on that system is stupid. Mantle is primarily for lower end CPUs or multiple gpus would of bin nice to see the performance on 2-3x gpu setups cus that would cause the CPU to be the bottleneck

Mantle is irrelevant now with dx12 coming and only 2 Mantle title now. I mean pc gaming world is not console world, people have the hardware, even à crappy 150$ cpu is better than what the new console have in term of cpu and run fast even without Mantle. It help the laptop, but most laptop have piss poor gpus in them.

Competition is always good so it's Nice to see the free performance, my low minimum fps have boosted a little so im happy

Only 2 mantel titles? Errr. The whole frostbite engine uses it, same goes for cryengine - any game created with those will automatically take use of Mantle.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Only 2 mantel titles? Errr. The whole frostbite engine uses it, same goes for cryengine - any game created with those will automatically take use of Mantle.


You mean like how every UE2 and 3 engine allows you to chose between DX and OGL?

Not they don't automatically take advantage of it. They CAN if the developer chooses to.

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