OkCupid asks users to ditch Firefox over Mozilla CEO gay rights controversy

Last week, Mozilla announced that it had appointed Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript, as its new chief executive officer. But dark clouds quickly began to gather over the company in the wake of that appointment, as many of Mozilla's own staff very publicly called on their new CEO to step down just a few days later. 

The reason for their outrage? Eich donated money to a campaign that supported Proposition 8 in California in 2008, which succeeded in banning same-sex marriage there, until the legislation was overturned in 2013. Some Mozilla employees have found it hard to accept that a person who would support such a campaign is now in charge of their company. Some developers, too, have spoken up against Eich, with some even pulling their software from Mozilla's Firefox Marketplace, and turning their backs on the company. 

The storm of controversy surrounding his appointment worsened a few days ago, when half of Mozilla's board resigned, citing doubts over his ability to realise the company's goals, particularly with regards to Firefox OS and the mobile market. While Eich's views surrounding same-sex marriage were not the key motivation for the resignation of those board members, the fallout regarding his stance on gay rights continues. 

Today, dating website OkCupid posted a special message for those connecting to the site via Mozilla's Firefox browser. The message says that "Mozilla's new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples. We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access OkCupid." 

It goes on to say: "Those who seek to deny love and instead enforce misery, shame, and frustration are our enemies, and we wish them nothing but failure." 

The message ends by encouraging users to use an alternative browser - Google Chrome, Opera, Safari, and the unfortunately named 'Internet Exploder'. 

So far, only OkCupid.com has featured the message, but the company is owned by IAC/InterActiveCorp - an American online media giant, which owns many major web brands, such as Ask.com, About.com, Dictionary.com, CollegeHumor, Urbanspoon and Vimeo, along with fellow dating brands Match.com and the app, Tinder.

In the face of opposition from many of its users, its developers and even its own staff, after the resignation of half of its board members, and now, as a large third-party company calls on its users to boycott Mozilla's products, one might easily assume that Mozilla is feeling some pressure to push Eich out of the nearest door. But there are no signs that the company is backing down on its choice. In a statement published by The Verge, Mozilla responded to OkCupid's message, saying: 

Mozilla supports equality for all, including marriage equality for LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender] couples. No matter who you are or who you love, everyone deserves the same rights and to be treated equally. OKcupid never reached out to us to let us know of their intentions, nor to confirm facts." 

Whether Eich can continue to weather the storm is anyone's guess - but by any measure, this past week hasn't been a good start for the new CEO. 

Source: The Verge | Rainbow flag image shown is a mock-up and not an official Mozilla photo 

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'brand' new taxes to tax the hell out of the 'gay believers'. 'brand' new taxes to tax MORE of the hell out of the 'gay non-believers'. both sides happy? maybe not, but well...politicians would be. problem solved.

This has gone from ridiculously blown out of proportion to just insanity now, but at least okCupid has exposed itself as someone to avoid and not take seriously, so there is that. ;)

Help! This is getting ridiculous. I tolerate gays but this is clearly a money grab. The media and corporate world are doing this for ad money and free advertising. This morning a mother killed her son brutally for what she thought was homosexual behavior. That doesn't get much media attention. But bashing a charity does. Anywhere I can complain to these people for trashing a project I've donated to and helped with bugs on? This drama has been going on for a week and I'm getting annoyed by it.

I wouldn't take this serious. I will continue to use Firefox on my desktop!! and now i have more reason to install in all my customer FIREFOX!!!

If OKCupid blocks my access with Firefox, then I'll just use IE . . . to go in and cancel my account. I'm neutral on the gay marriage topic, but they have no right to dictate what browser I use.

Hopefully they'll reconsider this guilt-tripping. I haven't had much luck since the hippie liberal communist I almost married, so there's not a lot keeping me on the site.

Mozilla as a whole is definitely pro LBGT, this whole thing is rather blown way out of proportion and the boycott from okcupid is misguided.


On a sidenote, goddamn some of the comments on this article are ridiculously bigoted...

Edited by ViperAFK, Apr 1 2014, 3:20pm :

This is a misguided campaign by okcupid.
I don't use them but I hope that all the services that I do use don't start trying to influence what browser I use, based on considerations that are irrelevant to my choice of browser.

It may well p*** many of their customers off. It is very likely that a great many of okcupid's customers in California were themselves also in favour of the proposition that Eich supported. Okcupid may well not have thought this through.

this whole gay thing is getting annoying. You wanted equal rights have equal rights. Just cause someone says they dont like gays doesnt mean anything. I actually hate gay people its wrong and sick.

Soldiers33 said,
this whole gay thing is getting annoying. You wanted equal rights have equal rights. Just cause someone says they dont like gays doesnt mean anything. I actually hate gay people its wrong and sick.
i hate blacks, mexicans, asians, and indians. They are all wrong and sick /s

rippleman said,
i hate blacks, mexicans, asians, and indians. They are all wrong and sick /s

Yes!
Because hating blacks, mexicans, asians and indians is EXACTLY the same as hating gay people! /s

Order_66 said,

Yes!
Because hating blacks, mexicans, asians and indians is EXACTLY the same as hating gay people! /s


How is it different? Don't go on a rant, intelligently explain the difference. I know I won't agree with you, but curious to see the way you justify hate to yourself.

gadjah said,
I support Eich. Gay/Lesb/Homosexuality is not right, why gives them rights?
Mexicans, Asians, Indians, and blacks aren't right either, why should they have rights? /s

gadjah said,
I support Eich. Gay/Lesb/Homosexuality is not right, why gives them rights?

So because you think it's wrong, you get to change the constitution from "All men are created equal" to "All men are not equal"?

So what they want him to be fired for his beliefs and life choices? The irony in that.

It's funny how the people asking for more rights have no problem taking 1st amendment away from others that don't believe what they do. Once again, the irony in that.

The people that say he donated to a hate group is just wrong. Just because he doesn't agree with how someone chooses their partner doesn't mean he hates them.

Null_Pointer said,
So what they want him to be fired for his beliefs and life choices? The irony in that.

what if he donated to the KKK party? And you happen to be black?

What makes you think the group hates gay people? He gave to a group supporting Prop 8, which doesn't believe in same sex marriage. Once again, the group doesn't agree with same sex marriage but that doesn't say they hate gay people.

So no, I don't see the connection.

Null_Pointer said,
What makes you think the group hates gay people? He gave to a group supporting Prop 8, which doesn't believe in same sex marriage. Once again, the group doesn't agree with same sex marriage but that doesn't say they hate gay people.

So no, I don't see the connection.

Are you kidding? He wants to deny a group the same right that he has. That's a dick move at best, and definitely hateful at worst.

So if we started up a group of people that, didn't hate African Americans, but rather just wanted to deny them certain rights... no big deal?

Sorry, that just sounds a bit silly to me.

rippleman said,

so, the kkk is made up by people, who hate blacks... hmmm... see the connection?

Your comparison is utter nonsense.

OkCupid hates straight people. Why can gay people block themselves from straight users search results, but straight users can't do the same?

OkCupid, marry all the gay men and women you want. I don't care. Now, let me use the browsers I want, which btw are Firefox and Internet "Exploder".

isnt there somewhere a freedom of speech and free what you can think something? I see people dont really like the freedom someone has to think for himself/herself.

Geranium_Z__NL said,
isnt there somewhere a freedom of speech and free what you can think something? I see people dont really like the freedom someone has to think for himself/herself.

So Eich is entitled to freedom of speech without recourse? Which means you are saying anyone that disagrees with him is not allowed free speech?

PS Go read the First Amendment. It doesn't guarantee people won't also exercise their free speech if they disagree with you. It only guarantees that the government will not limit your right to free speech.

so its okay for a whole group to not agree with the freedom of speech of one person? but its not okay for someone to say something about the group. Okay.

Eich has no free speech, that is obvious. What the hell he does in his own free time is his and ONLY his business.

A lot of people start riding their morale high horse because he has a 'negative' opinion about gays. Get off it.
It gets to a point nowadays that its retarded, this "fight for Gay equality" is getting sad. Emancipation era all over again. Want the benefits but not the negatives. They want the equal parts for the "tax purposes" or whatever. But they continue to shout around "WE ARE NOT DIFFERENT BUT WE ARE DIFFERENT" in their gay parades.

Yeah it's totally normal to offend other people by the way you dress. But having an opinion IST VERBOTEN JAHWOL!

Freedom of speech stop where the freedom of others start. You can say what you want. But people can say you're wrong and ask you to leave.

Someone must accept the consequences of what he does and what he says. Freedom of speech is not some sort of protection against non violent and legal retaliation.

So we are now liable at work for what we do in our personal time?

Then let's take a look what all those complainers do in their free time, like they're saints.

i think it's really gotten to be that the pro-gay people have become as bigoted as the the anti-gay people ever were. more than half of california voted to ban gay marriage... should everyone have boycotted california for this?

Ok this is getting ridiculous. A guy said/did a thing 5 or 7 years ago, that he has since appolgized for. Can we get over it now and move on?

SharpGreen said,
Ok this is getting ridiculous. A guy said/did a thing 5 or 7 years ago, that he has since appolgized for. Can we get over it now and move on?

Absolutely not! some people simply look for reasons to complain so they can be heard or belong to a tiny minority or group just for the attention, otherwise they will feel that their existence is altogether insignificant.

It isn't like he is forcing his beliefs/opinion on us through Firefox. If he is good at his job and keeps his personal life at home. Then who cares?

I don't think OkCupid realised he created Javascript too

Lingwo said,
It isn't like he is forcing his beliefs/opinion on us through Firefox. If he is good at his job and keeps his personal life at home. Then who cares?

I don't think OkCupid realised he created Javascript too

It's not as if all products he ever worked on are suddenly corrupted. Okcupid wants to make a statement. A lot of people do care, it's a big social issue. Would it ''matter as long as he is good at his job'' if he had said black people shouldn't be allowed to ride on the same bus as white people? That's another social issue that people fought for. They did so by making statements very similar to this one.

That would be his opinion again. So long as he isn't using the company to push his opinions or publicly coming out saying/doing these things. Then it is up to him.

I don't see why a piece of software like Firefox should suffer because of it.

Lingwo said,
That would be his opinion again. So long as he isn't using the company to push his opinions or publicly coming out saying/doing these things. Then it is up to him.

I don't see why a piece of software like Firefox should suffer because of it.

Really? I think we've progressed far enough that holding such an opinion would cause massive outrage on both sides of the aisle. Any CEO with such an opinion would be out of a job in no time. In every society there are certain norms and values. It might not be illegal but holding certain opinions will make you an outcast. We have gender and racial equality. Anyone saying otherwise will have a very hard time in today's society. LGBT equality is the next step in our cultural (r)evolution.

Again, I don't think its their goal to hurt Firefox. I also don't think they believe they will make much of an impact on Firefox's marketshare. There main impact will be awareness. That includes our discussion right here.

Yeah, sorry, not ditching Firefox just because some dude doesn't or once did not think that gays shouldn't be allowed to be married. He's entitled to that belief. It's not like he said being gay was a sin or that all the gays would burn in hell or anything like that.

Racists and bigots, oh my...

Just looking through the comments, I am shocked at the cruelty and craziness a topic like this can insight.

Although I am not a supporter/fan of Mozilla, I don't agree with these types of boycotts, as it hurts people in the company that have no control over the viewpoints of bad leaders.

Even though I don't agree with these types of boycotts, I am a strong supporter of LGBT equality, and find the viewpoints of Eich and many of the commenters here reprehensible.

As for Eich, having a view on an issue is different from actively working to take legal rights away from people, and he is guilty of the latter.

I wish the bigoted commenters here could live the life of a gay person and see how many freedoms they are denied in the 'free' USA. It is disgusting that they pay more in taxes, can be fired in most states and are denied the rights of over 900+ laws that everyone else takes for granted. (These are not 'special rights', they are a matter of simple equality.)

Compassion and tolerance are not hard to comprehend or offer, it costs nothing.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Pay more in taxes? What on earth are you fuzzing about?

he means there are tax breaks available to married couples that aren't available to gay couples legally unable to marry

Mobius Enigma said,
Racists and bigots, oh my...

Just looking through the comments, I am shocked at the cruelty and craziness a topic like this can insight.

Although I am not a supporter/fan of Mozilla, I don't agree with these types of boycotts, as it hurts people in the company that have no control over the viewpoints of bad leaders.

Even though I don't agree with these types of boycotts, I am a strong supporter of LGBT equality, and find the viewpoints of Eich and many of the commenters here reprehensible.

As for Eich, having a view on an issue is different from actively working to take legal rights away from people, and he is guilty of the latter.

I wish the bigoted commenters here could live the life of a gay person and see how many freedoms they are denied in the 'free' USA. It is disgusting that they pay more in taxes, can be fired in most states and are denied the rights of over 900+ laws that everyone else takes for granted. (These are not 'special rights', they are a matter of simple equality.)

Compassion and tolerance are not hard to comprehend or offer, it costs nothing.


Why is he a bad leader all of a sudden? He could be the best CEO Mozilla has ever had. I hate how people are associating a persons opinion with competency at his job.

the better twin said,

Why is he a bad leader all of a sudden? He could be the best CEO Mozilla has ever had. I hate how people are associating a persons opinion with competency at his job.

I don't know if he is a bad leader, and didn't mean to imply he is or not.

My example was meant to be more general.

However, it appears there are people in his company that think he is a bad leader and disagree with him on many subjects, not just his support of opposing same sex marriage. The other board members that resigned, did so over a lack of respect for his 'leadership', which I'm going to guess they think he is a bad leader.

the better twin said,
Why is he a bad leader all of a sudden? He could be the best CEO Mozilla has ever had.

Erm, how about because half the board of directors resigned in protest of him and there are now boycotts against the company? We didn't see the same thing under the last CEO. All he has done is bring the company into disrepute.

Mobius Enigma said,
...can be fired in most states...

That's called At-will employment and applies to everyone at a workplace (there are a few exceptions which vary from state to state). All states recognize At-will employment. I can be terminated without cause from my job, and I am a married straight male.

RangerLG said,
That's called At-will employment and applies to everyone at a workplace (there are a few exceptions which vary from state to state). All states recognize At-will employment. I can be terminated without cause from my job, and I am a married straight male.

And that's extremely concerning, as it allows for discrimination and means that personal issues can affect employment. In most countries workers have basic protections and can't be fired without cause.

People shouldn't have to live their lives knowing that any day they could say the wrong thing and be out of a job. In the US we've seen people fired for their political beliefs, which is absolutely outrageous.

the better twin said,

Why is he a bad leader all of a sudden? He could be the best CEO Mozilla has ever had. I hate how people are associating a persons opinion with competency at his job.

Well, at least half the board thought he was a bad leader...

RangerLG said,

That's called At-will employment and applies to everyone at a workplace (there are a few exceptions which vary from state to state). All states recognize At-will employment. I can be terminated without cause from my job, and I am a married straight male.

This isn't accurate. At-will is the basis of labor law, but diverts when state policy protections are established to 'protect' the employee or assumes a good faith contractual understanding.

In all 50 states, it is illegal to fire someone based on race, religion, gender, etc.

There is no protection for gay people in many states. It extends outside of At-Will employment, as the employer can directly say they are firing the employee because they are gay. (At Will means they don't give a reason.)

Gay people live in fear in many states of their employer and it isn't just standard 'At-Will' employment, as it bypasses all other federal and state protection policies.

gays, feminists and others who feel like minorities or make themselves appear as such can be really annoying

all the time they make themselves appear as oppressed and all of a sudden when something happens they raise a voice so loud you can hear them on Sirius

i have a gay cousin and hes really cool, and im okay with everyone as long as they dont rub it in my face, and those guys at okcupid can go get painted white

Those guys at okcupid aren't (all) gay. They stand up for equal rights because they feel its the right thing to do. A large minority of the world's population is gay. Strangely enough in the USA the percentage is lower. I suspect that this is because people are being oppressed in the 'land of the free'. LGBT equality is today's issue and is as important as gender and racial equality.

this is merely an important issue, the human world is about to collapse, because everyone is separated by opinions, just like that Krim thing and Russia, South Sudan and all those recent issues - an example that there are far more important things than equal rights and stuff

i could see the USA states separating because of that


there are important issues with ecological nature, et cetera, which if not addressed will soon make this equal rights pile of garbage look like a children's argument of who stole whose toy

garou_heki said,
gays, feminists and others who feel like minorities or make themselves appear as such can be really annoying

Gays are a minority and there is a strong history of oppression against them. They haven't achieved equality yet and it's only right that they do what they can to achieve it.

garou_heki said,
i have a gay cousin and hes really cool, and im okay with everyone as long as they dont rub it in my face

I suppose you have a problem with straight people kissing and holding hands as well, right? If you don't you're a hypocrite; if you do you're just prudish about sexuality.

garou_heki said,
this is merely an important issue, the human world is about to collapse, because everyone is separated by opinions, just like that Krim thing and Russia, South Sudan and all those recent issues - an example that there are far more important things than equal rights and stuff

i could see the USA states separating because of that


there are important issues with ecological nature, et cetera, which if not addressed will soon make this equal rights pile of garbage look like a children's argument of who stole whose toy

I never said there weren't any other important issues. But 'that krim thing' (how old are you?) is purely a political issue. Unless it becomes a major threat the general population will not be impacted by it. True enough if it does, then social issues are often put aside (for a while). The cold war is a good example of such a period.

However we do NOT live in such a time period. The human world is not about to collapse. There have been generations that have gone through much worse and they survived. Don't turn this into something silly. Every society faces its social issues and the one of our generation is LGBT equality. And yes at the same time we're perfectly capable of adressing other issues such as climate change.

Don't push your heterosexuality on me. As long as you STFU about your girlfriend, marriage, and children, I'm totally cool with straight people.

Ronnet said,

...

im 22
i dont really care about politics because it gives me unwanted mental pressure so i barely pay attention to what is going on


i just have a bad feeling that in the near future (soon enough for me and you to witness it) something really bad will happen, but i dont know what

garou_heki said,

im 22
i dont really care about politics because it gives me unwanted mental pressure so i barely pay attention to what is going on


i just have a bad feeling that in the near future (soon enough for me and you to witness it) something really bad will happen, but i dont know what

Maybe it will help you sleep better to know that people have been thinking the world will end for millenniums. Probably since they became self-aware but unfortunately our documentations don't date back that far.

But people who believed such things right before terrible events, such as world war 2, had more reasons to believe they were right. Yet they were wrong. And a mere 15 years after the end of the second world war the black movement started and social issues were a hot topic again.

It runs a little deeper than just being a campaign... I find it bizarre that someone would put time, effort and money into a cause that does not affect him in anyway and only tries to blight the happiness of folk he has never even met. There is no pro argument to this cause, it does nothing good, and therefore he does not deserve the support of anyone who opposes this.

I would not like to work for someone (or support anything they do) who has that view on life.

I'm not a gay supporter or anything, i don't really have an opinion on it, i just find this guys efforts very strange.

I'll use the browser that works best for me. That means Chrome for Social Media and Firefox for casual browsing. I don't care about corporate structures.

This must be an April fools joke... It's none of their business what Eich does in his private life. It's his own personal belief/option and it's totally up to him which campaign he wants to support. It has absolutely nothing to do with his job at Mozilla.

Nexx295 said,
This must be an April fools joke... It's none of their business what Eich does in his private life. It's his own personal belief/option and it's totally up to him which campaign he wants to support. It has absolutely nothing to do with his job at Mozilla.
I know i wouldn't work for someone who actively donates to a club that fights for "pedophile rights" to make it legal... would you? If not, then you are doing the same thing as what you say is not right.

No thanks. Think I will stick with the combustible fox for some time to come. If your going to fall into this trap of not using something because a member of staff has a view point, then your options are going to be very, very, limited.

As the The_Decryptor said.

The_Decryptor said,
I wonder if they're going to ditch JavaScript as well, because he created it.


Ad Man Gamer said,
No thanks. Think I will stick with the combustible fox for some time to come. If your going to fall into this trap of not using something because a member of staff has a view point, then your options are going to be very, very, limited.

As the The_Decryptor said.

Speaking as a gay man, I agree with you 100%.

aljaradi said,
Okcupid are gay!

i looked too and it is not a dating site for gay people... maybe you were looking at a different homosexual site?

this is so stupid that i thought it was an april fools joke. at least if i find myself single i know what dating service not to use.

I worship Satan and all his little wizards in my spare time. It's a good hobby that I devote the odd 5 minutes to here and there in the garden shed.
It doesn't interfere with my work, nor do I actively promote it within my work.
I like to believe I'm good at my job which is represented by signatures from happy customers and even a few comments about how good a service I've given them. Some even have my personal mobile number because they've been impressed enough to ask for it.
Should everyone now stop using my service, even though it's not affected in the slightest?

If by worshiping Satan it stopped others from actively doing something then yes otherwise fill your boots.

There is a world of difference between promoting inequality and worshipping false idols.

True, although the analogy still stands as it's a private endeavour that has no bearing on the product in use. He could worship Hitler and burn suspected witches for all I care. Firefox is a great browser, and I'll continue to use it no matter how many gay people are annoyed at his personal belief.

surreyguy said,
True, although the analogy still stands as it's a private endeavour that has no bearing on the product in use. He could worship Hitler and burn suspected witches for all I care. Firefox is a great browser, and I'll continue to use it no matter how many gay people are annoyed at his personal belief.
would you still work for a boss if he was a pedophile?

But the point is I'm not working for him. I'm using a product that he had involvement in that happens to suit my needs.
Gary Glitter is a convicted pedophile, yet every xmas, his music blasts out the stereo and we crack on. What he did was wrong, but it was a good xmas tune then, and it's no different now. It doesn't sound any different just because he's been in front of a judge.

It's just politics, and they're getting right into it. Changing which browser you use is going to do nothing positive, and if you change to Chrome, you get the added benefit of Google's data mining that people seem to take so trivially.

bobsled said,
It's just politics, and they're getting right into it. Changing which browser you use is going to do nothing positive, and if you change to Chrome, you get the added benefit of Google's data mining that people seem to take so trivially.

Its actually even less the trivial... its meaningless

The_Decryptor said,
I wonder if they're going to ditch JavaScript as well, because he created it.

i'm looking forward to see what kind justification for OKCupid to keep using JavaScript considering javascript was created by same person they boycott.

The_Decryptor said,
I wonder if they're going to ditch JavaScript as well, because he created it.

Indeed. This sort of rabid "activism" is ridiculous. OKCupid need to get a grip.