Samsung tells S3 camera users to upgrade to the S5

A new Samsung advertisement published online appears to be designed to convince users of its ex-flagship device, the Galaxy S3, to upgrade to its much-newer successor, the S5. The S3 is now over two years old and only officially runs Android 4.3 Jelly Bean on the stock firmware.

The advert focuses primarily on the improved camera hardware found on the S5 and emphasizes how the 16MP sensor, up from 8MP on the S3, vastly improves the level of detail in captured photos. It also shows how the S5 handles varying light situations much more efficiently than its younger brother in a bid to grab the attention of S3 users.

Although it is doubtful how many people will actually upgrade to the S5 after watching the video, it's certainly interesting watching manufacturers attempt to get users off their old handsets to upgrade to newer models by speaking negatively of their own products. Just two years ago it was the S3 that Samsung needed everybody to buy. Now, however, it's more than willing to remind people about its shortcomings so they can ditch that device.

The S5 can have a couple of years of fame before its inevitable fate meets it.

Source: Samsung via Phones Review

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I miss my Galaxy S III. It was the only "S" model I ever owned. After I got the Note, I considered the S to be a downgrade in comparison. my wife has had the S4 and now has the S5. I actually like the S5 more than I thought. Even tho Neowin didn't give the S5 a good review, it should have gotten one. The S5 is done very well and is more than just an upgrade over the S4.

The article is incorrect as far as the, "...only officially runs Android 4.3 Jelly Bean on the stock firmware" statement. It all depends on the carrier, not Google nor Samsung. I'm with Ting (a Sprint MVNO) and my unrooted, stock S3 is on 4.4.2, via an automatic OTA update. Others of have already noted this in their comments also, on other carriers.

While I'm currently happy with my S3 as is, the hardware spec benefits of a S5 are a trade-off to the increased bloatware that Samsung adds in. If I were to opt for a S5, rooting would be a must in order to clean out the unnecessary cruft.

svim said,
The article is incorrect as far as the, "...only officially runs Android 4.3 Jelly Bean on the stock firmware" statement. It all depends on the carrier, not Google nor Samsung. I'm with Ting (a Sprint MVNO) and my unrooted, stock S3 is on 4.4.2, via an automatic OTA update. Others of have already noted this in their comments also, on other carriers.

While I'm currently happy with my S3 as is, the hardware spec benefits of a S5 are a trade-off to the increased bloatware that Samsung adds in. If I were to opt for a S5, rooting would be a must in order to clean out the unnecessary cruft.

the gt-i9300 is the only one staying on 4.3

The statement applies to the official Samsung updates which include their own Touchwiz(?) afaik Samsungs most recent release is from the 4.3 branch.

Love my s3 wont be upgrading the camera does a good enough job, i got a good camera for anything serious anyway. Also its not new and expensive enough to worry about repairing myself. Like i changed the front glass on my s3 myself with a hair dryer and a £5 replacement screen lol would never do that on a s5 would feel to risky.

Running a rom also rooted phone soon as i got it (was a hand me down free jobby with a broken screen) smooth as hell never lags.

Samsung won't tell you that S5 (and S4 for that matter) has much worse sound quality than S3 (the international version, at least). Because apparently people never use their phone as a music player, right?
They also won't tell you that S3's camera takes much smoother videos, while videos from S5 (and S4) look ridiculous in comparison, despite possibly better detail (but not much). They even managed to mess up the motion more than in S4.

Everyone knows people's ridiculously long cellular network service provider contracts are ending and Samsung is trying to milk this as much as possible.

They want you to upgrade because of the CAMERA? A phone camera will NEVER beat a high quality Nikon or similar standalone digital cam or DSLR.

How high quality do girls want their selfies to be?

Not many people carry around a DSLR everywhere they go, but they usually take their phone. It's convenient to have a phone that takes decent pics.

Open Minded said,
Not many people carry around a DSLR everywhere they go, but they usually take their phone. It's convenient to have a phone that takes decent pics.

Not many girls know how to take selfies on DSLRs either. :D

There's a cynical angle on this article when its common practise to advertise better features of newer models. Everything's advertised this way (new model has improves x over last years model).

Maybe I read too much into it but the headline sure makes it sound like dodgy business practise when in fact its standard.

Galaxy S3 is still a very popular phone, and if it runs Jelly Bean it can run Kit Kat. Given they specifically dropped the system requirements for it.

yep, but Sammy canned KK for S3 as they can't fit all their crapware in the ROM - plenty of custom KK ROMs for the s3 already..

20legend said,
yep, but Sammy canned KK for S3 as they can't fit all their crapware in the ROM - plenty of custom KK ROMs for the s3 already..

and all of them are buggy crap and mostly unusable for people who actually need to USE the phone.
Samsung will update the international Galaxy S3 version to a newer 4.3 with fixed bugs, so I couldn't care less about not having 4.4.

the CM nightly 4.4.4 rom i'm using is stable and runs great. That being said the Slimkat 4.4.4 rom I was using before that was buggy.

audioman said,

and all of them are buggy crap and mostly unusable for people who actually need to USE the phone.
Samsung will update the international Galaxy S3 version to a newer 4.3 with fixed bugs, so I couldn't care less about not having 4.4.

yeah CM11 nightless for 4.4.4 have been fine, been uses nightlies every 4 days and they have been so darn stable

DKAngel said,

yeah CM11 nightless for 4.4.4 have been fine, been uses nightlies every 4 days and they have been so darn stable


Yeah, right. Just look at the list of acknowledged unfixed bugs. Major stuff not working properly or at all.

audioman said,

Yeah, right. Just look at the list of acknowledged unfixed bugs. Major stuff not working properly or at all.

like what? ive been using it as a general driver for ages now and from what i can tell i havnt found anything that stops me from using my phone at all

DKAngel said,

like what? ive been using it as a general driver for ages now and from what i can tell i havnt found anything that stops me from using my phone at all

Ditto!

Unfortunately, for companies like Samsung, they're only in it for the money. To put someone else's bloat on there = MONEY!!!!!
They don't really care how poor the phone performs as long as a sale is made.
That keeps the investors and shareholders happy, which as we all know, is the most important feature of a company.

Funnily enough, I was having a conversation with my GF the other day about when Nokias were all the rage, and they'd always start to play up right when it came to contract upgrade time. Up until that moment, they just worked flawlessly, and were always responsive.

yes upgrade to a S5 so in two years time samsung can tell you your phone can not support the latest version of android with all of their bloatware due to a lack of memory, after the last upgrade seriously slowed down the phone and tey said it would be fixed in the next update.

I'll upgrade to the S5 if they give me one. Other than that I'll wait for the Galaxy S6 unless some better Android phone comes out.

Pretty much every non samsung phone is better than the S5 :p

Theres actually speedtests between the S5 and the Moto E, Moto E launched programs faster and had smoother scrolling. It won't be able to take as nice pictures or run as many intense games but for everyday use it's amazing.

No different than what the Samsung reps told me in store when I complained about my SII's features.

Almost went iPhone because of Samsung...

Dear Samsung, I'd rather throw my money down the sewer then give you any more.

- Samsung Galaxy S3 Slimkat 4.4.4

And if they are concerned, I am buying a iPhone 6.

Me too switching back to iPhone 6 (5.5" screen)
After giving chance to Androids for 2 years I got bored of them. Especially of Samsung.

LG G2 was still my best phone till date.

so you're switching back to an OS that is available on only one device (albeit with an upcoming choice of 2 screen sizes) with no custom ROMs - and you wont get bored of that???????

20legend said,
so you're switching back to an OS that is available on only one device (albeit with an upcoming choice of 2 screen sizes) with no custom ROMs - and you wont get bored of that???????

Jailbreak tweaks are cool!! :D

I'll certainly be upgrading my S3 alright, but to what, I'm not entirely sure.
Given that every android device I've owned seems to slow down to an almost unusable stage requiring a factory reset, I'm questioning about whether to upgrade to the S5 or just ditch it in favour of another variety of OS.

Have owned an HTC, an Samsung S2, and a Google phone.
All are great when factory virgin software, but the moment you put even a couple of popular apps on there, they just all go into meltdown.
The only way I've managed, and still have to, get a response out of them is to use a task killer. I have to use it about a dozen times of the day.
It's not the manufacturer's fault. I think it's a horrible memory management flaw in Android full stop. Even a friend of mine who has the S4 says about how slow it becomes, and having to use a task killer to make it actually work again.
I've never had to do this on my Ipad, and I'm just now starting to wonder if a complete switch over to an Iphone is in order.
Problem is, I always vowed never to become one of the sheep, however, I can feel the fleece starting to grow over me already.

i_was_here said,
What brands of Android phones have you used? If only Samsung, then definitely consider a different brand.

I wouldn't be so sure. I got hold of an old Ace 2 recently, it was slow and laggy. I built my own ROM based on CM 10.2, it has been better than new, my friend DJGM has one with stock ROM it's slow and laggy as hell.

It's the ROM that's your problem, not the phone. If you're running the stock Sammy bloatware, root the phone and install CyanogenMod, it'll be the fastest phone you ever had, even faster than when it was new!

If you throw a million of those games in them that give you ads and spam in the statusbar as example it's no wonder it became slow, The big problem is that most apps start when your phone starts (so they can update themselves in the background). If 1 program does that(eq. facebook) then it's no problem but if 20 apps do that it's a nightmare even on a i7 pc it will be slow(imagine starting itunes, steam, origin, skype etc every time you start your pc).

Only fix for this is to not install a million apps that mostly do the same (I know people who install 12 camera apps as example...). Or you can use apps like greenify or others to prevent them from unnecessarily running in the background.

And iOS has stricter rules of background app processes but with iOS 8 those strict rules might also be history since apple is planning to give developers more freedom.

Also slowness might be because of even just 1 single popular app, in the past facebook was total crap on android (because it was not native but web based) and slowed phones down a lot.

It all comes down to housekeeping as well as the ROM. If you install tons of apps you're never gonna use, course your phone's gonna bog down. Uninstall stuff you don't need, or at least install a startup manager!

You wouldn't run your car for years without keeping it serviced? I wouldn't, but a lot of people don't go to a garage until it's too late and there's warning lights coming on. It's the same with a phone, you can't fill it full of junk and expect it to be smooth. Consumers are so ignorant, they expect something to look after itself and run flawlessly on its own.

I work with consumer electronics and cars, see it all the time. Samsung's bloatware is the underlying problem with their phones though, and that's FACT. Touchwiz is nice but horribly slow as well as all the other Samsung this, Samsung that apps.

Alas, I'm not a gamer. Although I do have a softspot for some clash of clans. Yes I use facebook on there, I use it for email, and have a couple of radio apps, and some networking utilities that come in really helpful for my work. No instagram, no BBM, no other games, and actually uninstalled as much as I could. Certainly no massive collection. Just a select few apps.
Surely that must be a "design feature" that everything is loading up in the background when the phone starts up then. I must say, I think this is probably going to be the end of the road for myself and Android in this instance.
I couldn't say if Iphone does the same thing or not, but if it does, it's certainly doing it right where Android is getting it wrong. I'm more than happy to wait a couple of seconds for an app to load rather than have the device preload it in the background, use up all the memory, and then make me wait 30 seconds to get an unresponsive telephone keypad when I want to make a call.
Indeed Windows would probably slow to a crawl if all the applications preloaded in the background. That's probably why Microsoft haven't allowed this to happen, or at the very least, application devs give you the option to turn off their programs running at startup.
Smartphone? I see nothing smart in having to bugger about with a phone in order to make an emergency call.

surreyguy said,

Indeed Windows would probably slow to a crawl if all the applications preloaded in the background.

Haha, I take it you've never used a Toshiba laptop then? The amount of startup rubbish on them from the factory is worse than Android!

Tidosho said,

I wouldn't be so sure. I got hold of an old Ace 2 recently, it was slow and laggy. I built my own ROM based on CM 10.2, it has been better than new, my friend DJGM has one with stock ROM it's slow and laggy as hell.

It's the ROM that's your problem, not the phone. If you're running the stock Sammy bloatware, root the phone and install CyanogenMod, it'll be the fastest phone you ever had, even faster than when it was new!


A ace 2 is a slow budget phone. The only reason why it's a bit less slow with cyanogenmod is because it has less software on it running in the background.

But it will always stay a slow phone because the hardware old is just old and outdated,

surreyguy said,
Alas, I'm not a gamer. Although I do have a softspot for some clash of clans. Yes I use facebook on there, I use it for email, and have a couple of radio apps, and some networking utilities that come in really helpful for my work. No instagram, no BBM, no other games, and actually uninstalled as much as I could. Certainly no massive collection. Just a select few apps.
Surely that must be a "design feature" that everything is loading up in the background when the phone starts up then. I must say, I think this is probably going to be the end of the road for myself and Android in this instance.
I couldn't say if Iphone does the same thing or not, but if it does, it's certainly doing it right where Android is getting it wrong. I'm more than happy to wait a couple of seconds for an app to load rather than have the device preload it in the background, use up all the memory, and then make me wait 30 seconds to get an unresponsive telephone keypad when I want to make a call.
Indeed Windows would probably slow to a crawl if all the applications preloaded in the background. That's probably why Microsoft haven't allowed this to happen, or at the very least, application devs give you the option to turn off their programs running at startup.
Smartphone? I see nothing smart in having to bugger about with a phone in order to make an emergency call.

What phone do you have? Is it a budget phone or a high end phone?

If it's a budget phone you can better stop mentioning ios since the price itself makes it a unfair comparison. Also a iphone4 with ios7 is also very slow and laggy all the time so ios isn;t that much better.

It's more a matter of what apps you use and if you got a budget phone (or old phone, eq. iphone 4) or a high end phone.

There's a button for emergency calls at the lockscreen on android phones so you don't need to go trough a possible laggy UI to call a emergency number.

Seahorsepip said,

A ace 2 is a slow budget phone. The only reason why it's a bit less slow with cyanogenmod is because it has less software on it running in the background.

But it will always stay a slow phone because the hardware old is just old and outdated,

Maybe so, but with me keeping it optimized it will still serve me well for another two years at least, until I can get a newer phone :) For all those struggling with junk, go on Google Play and download yourself Clean Master, it is awesome, and finds junk you didn't know was there :)

surreyguy said,
An a seasoned IT engineer, I wholeheartedly agree. hahah.
I've often used pc-decrapifier on them.

Thanks for the mentioning of that software, was always looking for some great software to do that work for me :D

Tidosho said,

Maybe so, but with me keeping it optimized it will still serve me well for another two years at least, until I can get a newer phone :) For all those struggling with junk, go on Google Play and download yourself Clean Master, it is awesome, and finds junk you didn't know was there :)


Too bad that these apps can still not remove all unnecessary apps that were included with a phone :/ When the manufacturer make these apps system apps there's no way to remove them without root, on android 4 we can at least disable them though.

I'm using a xperia z with a aosp build rom myself so I'm currently having not any of those problems luckily.

Tidosho said,
It all comes down to housekeeping as well as the ROM. If you install tons of apps you're never gonna use, course your phone's gonna bog down. Uninstall stuff you don't need, or at least install a startup manager!

You wouldn't run your car for years without keeping it serviced? I wouldn't, but a lot of people don't go to a garage until it's too late and there's warning lights coming on. It's the same with a phone, you can't fill it full of junk and expect it to be smooth. Consumers are so ignorant, they expect something to look after itself and run flawlessly on its own.

I work with consumer electronics and cars, see it all the time. Samsung's bloatware is the underlying problem with their phones though, and that's FACT. Touchwiz is nice but horribly slow as well as all the other Samsung this, Samsung that apps.

One of the downsides to using a custom (CM, AOSP, AOKP) ROM is you lose a lot of features such as the Camera software. But yeah, if you want pure speed then CM it is.

@surreyguy the problem you're facing is because of the samsung 'crap apps'. The slow your phone down to a drag, I hate samsung now for this very reason (and their insistence on hardware buttons on the screen).

You can make your S3 much faster, disable all the motion crap, smart stay, etc. and then goto the apps, and disable Samsung store and the rest of crap Samsung apps, plus the stupid Yahoo! widgets, disable all crap!

surreyguy said,
The only way I've managed, and still have to, get a response out of them is to use a task killer. I have to use it about a dozen times of the day.

Using a task killer makes it worst. Why do you think you have to use it a dozen times a day?

Ok, so what we're saying here essentially is, if I buy a premium phone, which at the time was an S3, in order for it to be responsive, fast, and do what it says on the tin, uninstall everything, don't put too many apps on there, and disable all the features that it comes with, and then we'll have a stable phone.
erm......... I seem to recall having VM cable internet once upon a time which gave me blisteringly fast internet of a whopping 20meg (also at the time), but if I DARED go over 2 gig of download during the day, they'd shoot my internet speed right down to 5 meg. Basically, offering a great service, but woe-be-tide me if I even thought about using it to it's full potential.
I'm just drawing a parallel here. Maybe it's not a good example, but a premium phone should be just that.

riahc3 said,

Using a task killer makes it worst. Why do you think you have to use it a dozen times a day?

Because the bloody thing becomes unresponsive unless I use a task killer to free up memory because Android has decided to let apps steal it all in the background.
Another guy from a different forum suggested that this was Android's great feature, and that free ram is wasted ram. Well, it's my bloody ram, I'll use it how I want to.

Seahorsepip said,

Thanks for the mentioning of that software, was always looking for some great software to do that work for me :D

Yep, and it does it's job well, especially on a brand new out-of-the-box pc/lappy. Uninstall that nonsense in one foul swoop.

Seahorsepip said,

What phone do you have? IsIf it's a budget phone you can better stop mentioning ios since the price itself it a budget phone or a high end phone?

makes it a unfair comparison. Also a iphone4 with ios7 is also very slow and laggy all the time so ios isn;t that much better.

It's more a matter of what apps you use and if you got a budget phone (or old phone, eq. iphone 4) or a high end phone.

There's a button for emergency calls at the lockscreen on android phones so you don't need to go trough a possible laggy UI to call a emergency number.

It's a Galaxy S3, so a premium phone.
I use the emergency services as just an example. It should be a case of these phones should have the actual phone portion segregated off in memory/cpu somewhere, so that when you click it, it's instantly there rather than hanging and slowly appearing.

surreyguy said,

Because the bloody thing becomes unresponsive unless I use a task killer to free up memory because Android has decided to let apps steal it all in the background.
Another guy from a different forum suggested that this was Android's great feature, and that free ram is wasted ram. Well, it's my bloody ram, I'll use it how I want to.


Apps are slow because they have to write every time to the ram in your case... Normally they kind of hibernate in the ram (same on ios and even windows)..

Blueclub said,
@surreyguy the problem you're facing is because of the samsung 'crap apps'. The slow your phone down to a drag, I hate samsung now for this very reason (and their insistence on hardware buttons on the screen).

You can make your S3 much faster, disable all the motion crap, smart stay, etc. and then goto the apps, and disable Samsung store and the rest of crap Samsung apps, plus the stupid Yahoo! widgets, disable all crap!


Indeed I can't use a samsung phone without doing that first or even better installing a custom rom.

Open Minded said,

One of the downsides to using a custom (CM, AOSP, AOKP) ROM is you lose a lot of features such as the Camera software. But yeah, if you want pure speed then CM it is.

That depends on the phone. My Ace 2 works 100% with CM 10.2, even the camera. It just seems to freeze and reboot every once in a blue moon, not very often. You need to find the best ROM for you, or if you are proficient with Android, do what I did and hack 'n' slash your own ROM together, just make sure you keep backups!

That's the beauty of Android over iOS. CHOICE and FREEDOM to do what you want with your device, even older ones :)

I suppose when smartphones start to become "good enough", companies would have to resort to such practices.

A GSIII can pretty much do all that an S5 could, except for some gimmicks. It just isn't as fancy.

eddman said,
I suppose when smartphones start to become "good enough", companies would have to resort to such practices.

A GSIII can pretty much do all that an S5 could, except for some gimmicks. It just isn't as fancy.

I kind of feel like that about my Nexus 5. I have no desire to upgrade to the new phones coming out. I think I'll be happy with my N5 for a long time.

Eclipse77 said,
I kind of feel like that about my Nexus 5. I have no desire to upgrade to the new phones coming out. I think I'll be happy with my N5 for a long time.

I would upgrade just cause the resale value on the Nexus 5 is high compared to most other android phones. Get the newest Nexus every year for cheap that way.

eddman said,
I suppose when smartphones start to become "good enough", companies would have to resort to such practices.

A GSIII can pretty much do all that an S5 could, except for some gimmicks. It just isn't as fancy.

Of course they have to resort to such practices. If they didn't make/want people to upgrade, how would they stay in business?

Same with Windows computers and most other electronic devices!

I don't upgrade squat until the stuff just about absolutely quits working! I don't need all the bells and whistles and stupidity of a "smart" phone!!

My S3 has been upgraded to 4.4.2 Kitkat and I have no issue with it. So I don't feel the need to switch phone for a while.

I think it depends on region. Us AT&T customers with S3 (i747) have 4.4.2 but I believe that worldwide version of the phone (i9300) will not be getting 4.4.x or greater upgrades anymore.

EyEvil said,
My S3 has been upgraded to 4.4.2 Kitkat and I have no issue with it. So I don't feel the need to switch phone for a while.
You are one of the few S3 users that get this update.

pookie62 said,
but I believe that worldwide version of the phone (i9300) will not be getting 4.4.x or greater upgrades anymore.

It won't be getting 4.4, but it will be getting a 4.3 with bug fixes, so I couldn't care less.

You're one of the luck ones, ever since 4.2 my S3 has been disconnecting wifi at will, came close to a point of smashing the phone on the wall. Will be upgrading out of Samsung to a OnePlusOne soon.

I wouldn't say anything about luck having anything to do with it.

I received this update, and I'm on Cricket. Not even close to a world major power when it comes to mobile carriers.

Samsung can kiss my ass... if they want me to ditch a $600 phone, bought just before the S4 release.. another $600 phone..... to yet the S5.....a $700 phone.... just to get better pictures?

Walmart sells digital cams at half that cost that can do more.

If they want me to ditch my S3... then can send me, free of charge... a new S5.

Yeah after watching the video it's also obvious that those weren't actually onscreen, but edited in after as well (slight hand movements apparent, but no movement in the supposed recording or taking of shots) lol