Steve Jobs' childhood home being considered for historical preservation

We all know how the story ends: Apple sells millions of iPhones every time they release a new model. But do you know how the story began?

It all started in the garage at 2066 Crist Drive, Los Altos, California. That's where Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, along with Ronald G. Wayne, formed the Apple Computer Company on April Fools’ Day, 1976. It's been almost two years since Steve Jobs passed away, and since that time his childhood home has become a popular destination for tourists. Some people feel that this home should be classified as a historical monument, so the Los Altos Historical Commission planned on holding a meeting to discuss the topic Monday night. If the property is indeed classified as a historical site, the home would have to be preserved as it currently stands with no remodeling allowed.

On a local San Francisco television channel, Steve Jobs' mother was interviewed and was in favor of the designation. She said that she's used to people dropping by to pose for pictures in front of the world's most famous garage, the site where the first Apple computer was built. It's not known when a decision will be finalized, but the locals seem to be of the opinion that this is an important piece of computer history so we wouldn't be surprised if this becomes a protected site.

Source: NBC in San Francisco | Image via CNN

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I am an Apple and Microsoft fan. Founders from either company deserve to have their house that they grew up in preserved. Who next, Zukerberg?

He was just a SALESMAN, folks, not an inventor, scientist, etc. We don't honor SALESMEN this way and we shouldn't.

In truth, Steve's only significant accomplishment, the one that will last beyond the modern day e-waste piles, was the purchase of ILM's animation team from George Lucas. A team he funded and built into PIXAR. That's a lasting, meaningful legacy to humanity. And anything done to honor Steve's life should be in relation to that contribution, in my opinion.

excalpius said,
He was just a SALESMAN, folks, not an inventor, scientist, etc. We don't honor SALESMEN this way and we shouldn't.

In truth, Steve's only significant accomplishment, the one that will last beyond the modern day e-waste piles, was the purchase of ILM's animation team from George Lucas. A team he funded and built into PIXAR. That's a lasting, meaningful legacy to humanity. And anything done to honor Steve's life should be in relation to that contribution, in my opinion.


Lasting, Gates is giving away all his money and reinventing the toilet for 3rd wild country's ,Steve just said "your holding It wrong."

The only Apple monument they should make is Steve Jobs standing while his followers bow down to his feet. It doesn't matter what he did or how you guys said he changed the world. It was his followers who made him look like a short lived movie star in a cult film.

jesseinsf said,
The only Apple monument they should make is Steve Jobs standing while his followers bow down to his feet. It doesn't matter what he did or how you guys said he changed the world. It was his followers who made him look like a short lived movie star in a cult film.

I hope they include the butthurt fanboys in that monument too.

But I'm pretty sure Jobs gets a lot of praise because he turned around two companies that were circling the toilet, and those companies have had a cultural impact since.

For the CURRENT homeowner, I feel sorry for them, if they do designate this as a "historical" building. You think neighborhood covenants are bad, just try to make ONE change to the home and see the roadblocks you run into. My company has tried to install office machines, networked, in a few buildings with a historical designation, and it is a nightmare. You can't drill holes, you can run cables that are already not installed, you have to use wireless, which is a pain sitting right next to a major roadway. The homeowner currently would be better off to have the home burn to the ground, and rebuild it if this goes through, or ditch the home QUICKLY. Oh, but this is a residence, not a commercial building, it won't be that bad. If you were the homeowner, would you want to take that chance? You'll never be able to sell it because no one wants to be trapped in a home they can't change at their pleasure.

Didn't Saint Steve Jobs rejected his daughter? Screw over early Apple employees. Wasn't Steve Jobs a totalitarian.

And wasn't Woz the dude being the "genius" Steve Jobs.

Completely daft idea. And Apple didn't invent the desktop GUI. Even the British company Acorn beat them to it.

Grizzl said,
Completely daft idea. And Apple didn't invent the desktop GUI. Even the British company Acorn beat them to it.

Quite. No one has suggested that Sir Tim Berners Lee's house he lived in when he invented the Web (an arguably more important thing than a phone) be made a cultural / historical monument. Primarily because it's a stupid idea.

Well, they could always review the case later on and modify its classification. Maybe in the future people decide it was the right thing to do but what if by then the house was demolished or whatever?

Seems entirely reasonable. People who've contributed significantly to a specific industry, business, or whatever often get their homes immortalised somehow. Quite a popular thing to do over here in England. Given the contribution that Jobs & Wozniak made to the computing industry, I think the property deserves to be preserved.

I'd fully expect they'd do the same for other visionaries like Bill Gates, etc.

What exactly did he contributed that wasn't already made before? Mp3 players - done, smartphones - done, tablets - done. He was an exceptional at marketing, no doubt about that but contributed? What?

I'm not trolling nor flaming, I'm actually curious maybe I've missed something.

He took those products and turned them into something that people actually wanted to use. MP3 players before the iPod - clunky and s**t, usually with tiny amounts of space. Tablets before the iPad, Windows with the touch-screen, the hardware was lousy and the interface was worse. Smartphones, there were plenty of alright smartphones before the iPhone, but they were strictly for business, now everyone has one. Same goes the PC.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
What exactly did he contributed that wasn't already made before? Mp3 players - done, smartphones - done, tablets - done. He was an exceptional at marketing, no doubt about that but contributed? What?

I'm not trolling nor flaming, I'm actually curious maybe I've missed something.

You only seem to be taking into consideration Apple's recent history. Try going back to the 70's and 80's and you'll see why the contributions Apple made were so significant.

Chicane - I'm guessing you're talking about the Mac right? And significant about that was? I think I should remind you of the Model 5150. Now let's move that aside and now take into account that Mac only survived thanks to Microsoft (which seems to be forgotten all the time) not just because of the bailout (twice) but also the major software Microsoft coded for them back in the day.

Virtorio - That's what I said, he was an marketing genius, I'm not even trying to say he wasn't. He took thing that were there already and made them more simple for everyday people and marketed them as "innovation" - that still doesn't mean he actually brought something new to the market.

Mr. - Wut? Seriously?

I have nothing against Apple, they do what they do best, market things. But this constant praising of Jobs like a damn Demigod is sickening.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Chicane - I'm guessing you're talking about the Mac right? And significant about that was? I think I should remind you of the Model 5150. Now let's move that aside and now take into account that Mac only survived thanks to Microsoft (which seems to be forgotten all the time) not just because of the bailout (twice) but also the major software Microsoft coded for them back in the day.

Virtorio - That's what I said, he was an marketing genius, I'm not even trying to say he wasn't. He took thing that were there already and made them more simple for everyday people and marketed them as "innovation" - that still doesn't mean he actually brought something new to the market.

Mr. - Wut? Seriously?

I have nothing against Apple, they do what they do best, market things. But this constant praising of Jobs like a damn Demigod is sickening.

I don't think it's as clear cut as that. Microsoft wrote software for the Macintosh - it gave Apple some software with gravitas, but at the time Microsoft didn't have Windows or any kind of GUI - just DOS. You have to wonder what shape Windows would have had taken, or how much longer it would have taken for Microsoft to push to a GUI if it hadn't been for the Mac.

Additionally the most early Apple computers (like the Apple I) pretty much kickstarted the home computer revolution.

I for one wouldn't overlook the importance Microsoft has had in the history of Apple and the Macintosh, but similarly Apple have been equally important and are equally (if not more) responsible for the boon in home computing. Microsoft didn't make computers and Microsoft didn't have Windows when the Macintosh came out.

Jobs invented the personal computer when industry wanted it to be commercial/business orientated. He developed fonts and their kerning and the desktop GUI to use a computer more intuitively. He was a ruthless ******* who wanted everything to always be better than it should be and got kicked off a lot of his own projects which ran millions over their budget and months past their dates... This is all according to the Aston Kutcher movie picture titled Jobs.

Steve Jobs pushed personal computing, and later pushed the smartphone as we know it today... He was a visionary and deserves recognition for his contribution to computers & electronics in general.

Commodore was the key home computer company of the early days. IBM was the key for the business side. Apple pretty much just made overpriced and overhyped stuff. Basically the same as now. Their computers have never been very successful.

Spicoli said,
Commodore was the key home computer company of the early days. IBM was the key for the business side. Apple pretty much just made overpriced and overhyped stuff. Basically the same as now. Their computers have never been very successful.

I think the saddest thing is that people are unable to just give credit where it's due. The Macintosh came even before the Amiga... the system which ultimately lost out to the Macintosh, and the PC, and of course games consoles.

Chicane-UK said,

I think the saddest thing is that people are unable to just give credit where it's due. The Macintosh came even before the Amiga... the system which ultimately lost out to the Macintosh, and the PC, and of course games consoles.

There was a lot of PCs around before the Macintosh. That was just a ridiculously expensive ($5400 inflation adjusted) for a very limited system. You couldn't upgrade anything even a bigger screen. Despite all the hype and the expensive commercial, it was never a very successful platform. In fact the iPod and the extension of that the iPhone have been their only successful product for all these decades.

Mr.XXIV said,
Buddy, he was practically the director of all the major innovations from the past decades.

According to the tenuous logic of your statement he also invented the wheel........

Chicane-UK said,
Seems entirely reasonable. People who've contributed significantly to a specific industry, business, or whatever often get their homes immortalised somehow. Quite a popular thing to do over here in England. Given the contribution that Jobs & Wozniak made to the computing industry, I think the property deserves to be preserved.

I'd fully expect they'd do the same for other visionaries like Bill Gates, etc.

Its reasonable to honor him. Its also reasonable to think there's some significance behind his home, since he and Woz built things in the garage.

Its also just a regular suburban home that looks like thousands of other homes. I'm not sure what the point is. Nobody would know any different if it was the next house over.

virtorio said,
He took those products and turned them into something that people actually wanted to use. MP3 players before the iPod - clunky and s**t, usually with tiny amounts of space. Tablets before the iPad, Windows with the touch-screen, the hardware was lousy and the interface was worse. Smartphones, there were plenty of alright smartphones before the iPhone, but they were strictly for business, now everyone has one. Same goes the PC.

If anything Apple created a lot of high tech jobs in the US and was a positive influence on our economy. Whether or not you think their products were worth purchasing is entirely separate and considered an opinion (you are entitled to it). However, just taking the facts about what Apple had pioneered in the industry and its economic force in the US make the men who founded the company American icons regardless of your opinion.

Fact: Apple and Pixar brought a lot of wealth to the US and Steve Jobs played a critical role in both companies.

Edited by Shadrack, Sep 24 2013, 5:24pm :

BavonWW said,

According to the tenuous logic of your statement he also invented the wheel........

Oh, I'm sorry, Apple wouldn't have been crap without him back then, and thanks to him, there are a lot of amazing things that seems to keep my in sync nowadays.

jesseinsf said,
The 70's and 80s? I barely even knew Apple back then. I heard more about M$ in the 80's.

I was more Sun Microsystems in the (later) 80s. That's the company that really did make the graphical workstations a productive reality. The first one I used had a 19" monitor, optical mouse using the Suntools GUI running on Unix. Later it was SGI that brought 3D to the desktop.

Spicoli said,

I was more Sun Microsystems in the (later) 80s. That's the company that really did make the graphical workstations a productive reality. The first one I used had a 19" monitor, optical mouse using the Suntools GUI running on Unix. Later it was SGI that brought 3D to the desktop.

I actually have three SGI workstations! Awesome machines but showing their age a wee bit now (An Indy, Indigo2 and an O2 in case you were wondering).

Shadrack said,
Fact: Apple and Pixar brought a lot of wealth to the US and Steve Jobs played a critical role in both companies.

Jobs played a critical role in Pixar? Ha. Good one.

It was John Lasseter's idea to make films. Jobs bought Pixar to make them yet another failed computer company. George Lucas has more influence on creating Pixar and making them what they are now. When it comes to Pixar the only thing Jobs did was step out of the way.

PeterTHX said,

Jobs played a critical role in Pixar? Ha. Good one.

It was John Lasseter's idea to make films. Jobs bought Pixar to make them yet another failed computer company. George Lucas has more influence on creating Pixar and making them what they are now. When it comes to Pixar the only thing Jobs did was step out of the way.

Ok. Whatever. I understand that if you don't marginalize Jobs involvement with Pixar then your dumbfounded Jobs/Apple hate would make it impossible for you to love their movies. Invent whatever fantasy world you need to.

PeterTHX said,

Jobs played a critical role in Pixar? Ha. Good one.

It was John Lasseter's idea to make films. Jobs bought Pixar to make them yet another failed computer company. George Lucas has more influence on creating Pixar and making them what they are now. When it comes to Pixar the only thing Jobs did was step out of the way.

You need to brush up on your history.... badly... either that or you are just trolling and hoping someone falls for it.

ILikeTobacco said,
You need to brush up on your history.... badly... either that or you are just trolling and hoping someone falls for it.

OK, then name what Steve Jobs did for Pixar other than buying the company from LucasFilm?

Shadrack said,

Ok. Whatever. I understand that if you don't marginalize Jobs involvement with Pixar then your dumbfounded Jobs/Apple hate would make it impossible for you to love their movies. Invent whatever fantasy world you need to.

Watch "The Pixar Story".

Jobs is a footnote. Your so-called "Apple hate" has nothing to do with it.

Do you even know what Jobs did at the company. FYI, he didn't make it a failed computer company. It was doing that on its own. He did lead it into becoming a totally different kind of company. Like I said, you need to brush up on your history, because you have clearly no earthly idea what actually happened at that company. If what you said was even partially true, the only thing we would see from Pixar right now is software to make 3d graphics and video, but no actually video.

Pixar was making short films BEFORE Jobs bought them.

Look up "The Adventures of André and Wally B". John Lasseter was the force behind making Pixar into a film company.