Verizon launches 4G/LTE support in more cities

4G speeds for phones, tablets and PC laptop cards are still a fairly new development, but Verizon is still expanding its 4G service in more and more cites. Today, the wireless carrier announced that its LTE service is now officially live in nine more cities in the US. The newly added cities are: Mobile and Montgomery Ala., Greater Fairfield and New Haven, Conn., Gainesville, Pensacola and Tallahassee, Fla., Fayetteville-Lumberton, N.C., and Bryan-College Station and Temple-Killeen, Texas. These new additions bring the total number of US metropolitan areas serviced by Verizon's 4G network to 55 locations. In addition to the new cities, Verizon says it has expanded its already available service in five more US cities: Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, New Orleans and Philadelphia.

Even with the new city additions, its still going to be a while before all of Verizon's current 3G users will be brought up to the 4G speeds. The press release states, "We plan to bring 4G LTE mobile broadband to our entire 3G coverage area by the end of 2013.” In addition, Verizon has announced that it is trying to bring its LTE network beyond the urban areas into rural locations. It states, "The company is working with rural communications companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas." Verizon has entered into agreements with at least 10 rural wireless companies to bring the LTE network technology to those areas. There's no word yet on when those networks will go live with the 4G speeds.

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How is it possible that Verizon's 4G LTE can only do 5-12 Mbps, and the HSPA+ networks here in Canada do up to 42.2 Mbps right now? In what way is Verizon's LTE better than Telus' DC-HSPA+ if it's so much slower? With an iPhone 4, I can already get 6 Mbps down and 4 Mbps up with roughly 100 ms pings because the phone only supports 7.2 Mbps HSDPA and 5.76 mbps HSUPA. The iPhone 5 is supposed to support 42.2 Mbps DC-HSDPA and 5.76 HSUPA, so does that mean Verizon's LTE is inferior to Telus' HSPA+?

Despite Verzion's (and other US carrier's) claims of being 4G, in truth the networks they are rolling out are not truely 4G... they're more like 3.5G. I'm not surprised that other countries are getting faster speeds, the 4G is more of a marketing ploy than the actual type of network.

LTE is a completely new technology for Verizon and so initial deployments are not utilizing the full capabilities of the tech. On the other hand HSPA+ is an evolution of an existing tech. Real world test of Verizon's LTE have returned results higher then the stated 5-12 Mbps and I would expect them to continue to rise over time. In theory LTE should top out at about double HSPA+ but just as it's going to take time to build out the network it's going to take time to get this new tech up to speed. So to answer your question it probably is the case that RIGHT NOW Verizon's LTE is inferior to Telus' HSPA+ but HSPA+ is at the end of it's evolution and LTE is at the beginning.

sabrex said,
How is it possible that Verizon's 4G LTE can only do 5-12 Mbps, and the HSPA+ networks here in Canada do up to 42.2 Mbps right now? In what way is Verizon's LTE better than Telus' DC-HSPA+ if it's so much slower? With an iPhone 4, I can already get 6 Mbps down and 4 Mbps up with roughly 100 ms pings because the phone only supports 7.2 Mbps HSDPA and 5.76 mbps HSUPA. The iPhone 5 is supposed to support 42.2 Mbps DC-HSDPA and 5.76 HSUPA, so does that mean Verizon's LTE is inferior to Telus' HSPA+?

Source Please.

Canada Speeds are not that fast. Trust me. I am getting Speeds of 16 Mbps Up, 10 Mbps down on Verizon. Faster than Canada's LTE.

You are wrong about the speed and you are wrong about the iPhone 5. No one knows anything about the iPhone 5.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...1/05/05/f-4g-speedtest.html

Edited by UndergroundWire, May 19 2011, 8:38pm :

UndergroundWire said,
Canada Speeds are not that fast. Trust me. I am getting Speeds of 16 Mbps Up, 10 Mbps down on Verizon. Faster than Canada's LTE.

You are wrong about the speed and you are wrong about the iPhone 5. No one knows anything about the iPhone 5.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...1/05/05/f-4g-speedtest.html

I'm assuming you mean 1.6 Mbps up and 10 Mbps down on Verizon. People here in Vancouver using DC-HSPA mobile usb dongles are getting around 10-20 Mbps down and 2-5 Mbps up. The problem, as pointed out by the cbc article, is not the network. The current crop of smartphones being sold in Canada are only capable of 7.2 Mbps HSDPA and 5.76 Mbps HSUPA. The iPhone 5 is rumoured to have HSPA+ support (which I assume means 42.2 Mbps DC-HSDPA, though until the phone comes out we won't know for sure).

sabrex said,

I'm assuming you mean 1.6 Mbps up and 10 Mbps down on Verizon. People here in Vancouver using DC-HSPA mobile usb dongles are getting around 10-20 Mbps down and 2-5 Mbps up. The problem, as pointed out by the cbc article, is not the network. The current crop of smartphones being sold in Canada are only capable of 7.2 Mbps HSDPA and 5.76 Mbps HSUPA. The iPhone 5 is rumoured to have HSPA+ support (which I assume means 42.2 Mbps DC-HSDPA, though until the phone comes out we won't know for sure).

I'm sorry, but that's not true. A lot of android phones out there supports 21+Mbps, like mine. iPhones always been behind at this level.

2xSilverKnight said,

I'm sorry, but that's not true. A lot of android phones out there supports 21+Mbps, like mine. iPhones always been behind at this level.

And yet I haven't seen a single test from a smartphone (Android or otherwise) showing anything higher than 7.2 Mbps down and 5.76 Mbps up, yet plenty of tests with DC-HSDPA usb dongles showing such speeds. Can you point to a cellular speedtest from your phone showing better speedtest results than what I'm getting with the iPhone 4 at http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/87023949.png ?

sabrex said,

And yet I haven't seen a single test from a smartphone (Android or otherwise) showing anything higher than 7.2 Mbps down and 5.76 Mbps up, yet plenty of tests with DC-HSDPA usb dongles showing such speeds. Can you point to a cellular speedtest from your phone showing better speedtest results than what I'm getting with the iPhone 4 at http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/87023949.png ?


http://www.speedtest.net/android/55060452.png This was with 2 bars on my phone indoors.

Your obvious trolling aside, Verizon has promised real world speeds of 5-12Mbps down and 2-5Mbps up, here in the Seattle area speeds are a consistent 10-12Mbps down and around 5-6Mbps up with a response time of 30-35ms. The next fastest network hands down is T-Mobile's 21Mbps HSPA+ network clocking in at a consistent 5-7Mbps down and 2Mbps up. Remember that 21/42Mbps number is theoretical just as Lte's 100 Mbps and WiMax's 128Mbps is theoretical. As you can see 42Mbps HSPA+ should be well and capable of bringing 10-14d/3u speeds without trouble, with the only downfall being ping time. They are great competitors and I don't think there is any need to be so smug. I heard that in February the Vancouver BC got 42Mbps coverage it would be nice to see what speeds people are getting and when they will put out a DC-HSPA+ phone. I have to admit the boundaries of HSPA+ are quite impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x80LoWUcrnw

NAT1V3 said,
Your obvious trolling aside, ...

Not sure where that one came from. Was really just trying to figure out what the real-world advantages of LTE are compared to DC-HSPA+ ... on both sides of the border they are being marketed as 4G technologies, yet neither one technically qualifies as 4G. As far as I know LTE-Advanced is the only technology that currently qualifies as 4G in accordance with 3GPP standards. In any case, Rogers Bell and Telus in Canada are also rolling out LTE across their coverage zones (planned for 2013 completion) so sooner or later this will be a mute point. It would be nice to see a speedtest link showing real LTE performance in terms of download, upload, and ping. I just want to see the real-world difference on a smartphone between the two, but perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place.

sabrex said,
... and here is an article on the rollout of LTE in Canada. We may see it as early as 2012. http://thenextweb.com/ca/2011/...r-lte-4g-network-in-canada/

Yea, this will be one of the more disappointing things about Verizon's strategy if and when 4G drops you fall back to a measly 1Mbps connection for quite a while. At least you guys on Telus and here in the US AT&T get to fall back on a 10-14Mbps connection. If they are going to stick it out with CDMA I wish we could at least get some EV-DO Revision B.

NAT1V3 said,

Yea, this will be one of the more disappointing things about Verizon's strategy if and when 4G drops you fall back to a measly 1Mbps connection for quite a while. At least you guys on Telus and here in the US AT&T get to fall back on a 10-14Mbps connection. If they are going to stick it out with CDMA I wish we could at least get some EV-DO Revision B.

Telus and Bell also had 1X/EVDO Rev. A networks before rolling out UMTS/HSPA+ (21 Mbps) and then upgrading to DC-HSDPA (42 Mbps). However, they never had a GSM/EDGE network as a backup as Rogers does. That was a concern for Telus and Bell customers as well, and in this case it was either HSPA or nothing at all. At least having EVDO as a backup is something, and I don't think it's a major concern, just as the Telus/Bell concerns didn't really translate to real-world problems.

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