Verizon making Bing only search option?

Phones Review is reporting that Verizon may have struck a deal with Microsoft, putting Bing as their search engine of choice. The news comes from CrackBerry Forums, as well as the Official Verizon Forum, where BlackBerry users are reporting their default search engines set to Bing. Not only does Bing seem to be the new default, but it's also the only available option. Up until now, you could always change these settings, but from what people are saying, Bing is locked into place.

Some users in the forums mentioned above have noticed the change, but many say that their options are still in tact. It's still unclear what's going on here, but in the midst of users claiming to still have their original search options, zerog32, on CrackBerry Forums, says that "After a few battery pulls your choices will be gone." Many users seem to be in agreement with this. On the Official Verizon Forum, some users have reportedly called Verizon and received no help, as their tech support seemed to know nothing about a change. User HMM said that "A supervisor then also told me it me the change came from Blackberry, not Verizon." AzCellUser posts that after a Verizon tech connected with RIM, they told him that "VZW has partnered with Microsoft and has pushed BING to the 9550, 9530 and I believe the 9630. You can no longer use the other previous default search engines unless you go directly to their search page. This is a Verizon push and has nothing to do with RIM, I apologize for this inconvenience."

Did Verizon really strike some sort of deal with Microsoft? If so, does the deal only apply to BlackBerry smartphones, or is this change happening across the board? Maybe BlackBerry made the deal, but wouldn't that leave BlackBerry devices on all carriers with the same outcome? It's not uncommon to see a company set a certain search provider as a device's default choice, but removing all other options is unheard of. News is still coming in and Verizon has yet to make an official statement. Leave us a comment; let us know if you've noticed anything on your phone.

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LAMj said,
I though Verizon was in some kind of kahoot with google and their android?

Doesn't hurt to play the field a little :P

LAMj said,
I though Verizon was in some kind of kahoot with google and their android?

Verizon has been pretty impartial unless I missed something... They pushed the Droid pretty hard, but I think that's because they thought it had potential (Which it does). But they still have Windows Phones and stuff...

I think with the wide array of services there are now with how big the internet is, companies shouldn't be so precise with what services will take care of what, this will broaden demographic as well.

This is ridiculous, they need a ballot so I can choose what search engine is installed by default!


Just kidding.

KSib said,
This is ridiculous, they need a ballot so I can choose what search engine is installed by default!

And while your at it their should be a ballot when you turn the phone on for the first time so you can select which telco to connect to :)

After all, how unfair is it that the telco you buy the phone from gets to provide you with the service!

dvb2000 said,
And while your at it their should be a ballot when you turn the phone on for the first time so you can select which telco to connect to :)

After all, how unfair is it that the telco you buy the phone from gets to provide you with the service!

That WOULD be nice. But I imagine the cost of phones would go up substantially without the subsidies...

WhoTheF said,
If Verizon gets the iPhone then there's gonna be a problem.


Verizon can't get the iPhone. Their network is CDMA which this iPhone is not.

Nashy said,
Verizon can't get the iPhone. Their network is CDMA which this iPhone is not.

There are both CDMA and GSM iPhones.. America isn't the whole world.

Nashy said,
Verizon can't get the iPhone. Their network is CDMA which this iPhone is not.

1) Verizon's 4G network with they are readying is GSM.
2) A Verizon iPhone has been rumored for ages. Not saying that means anything, but adding a CDMA transmitter wouldn't be all that difficult I'm sure. At the very least it would be worth it for them if they wanted it on the Verizon network.

M_Lyons10 said,
1) Verizon's 4G network with they are readying is GSM.
2) A Verizon iPhone has been rumored for ages. Not saying that means anything, but adding a CDMA transmitter wouldn't be all that difficult I'm sure. At the very least it would be worth it for them if they wanted it on the Verizon network.

Converting the phone to cmda isn't really the issue. Having to maintain two seperate product lines, one specifically for one US carrier isn't Apple's style. Now, apple making a LTE iPhone and Verizon using it as a launch phone on their lte network is definitely a possibility.

Id like to hear the MS fan boys opinions, I remember them all saying Bing was a step in the right direction for MS and that we should forget their anti competitive ways. When will people learn, you cant trust any company.

Edit.. for some reason words are repeating themselves in this post yet when I click "Edit" there is no problem.

BigBoobLover said,
I've seen that glitch before too. Sometimes the last word in a line will repeat on the next line.

Probably has something to do with neowin not updating IPB for a year or two, some bugs that were fixed later won't have been applied.

Orange Battery said,
Id like to hear the MS fan boys opinions, I remember them all saying Bing was a step in the right direction for MS and that we should forget their anti competitive ways. When will people learn, you cant trust any company.

Edit.. for some reason words are repeating themselves in this post yet when I click "Edit" there is no problem.

Well, I don't see this as being a Microsoft issue. A lot of companies make deals like this. Search deals aren't exclusive to Microsoft... Verizon probably made a boo boo when pushing the search update... They're programmers are far from the best.

I'm still trying to figure out why my volume bar zooms in on my voice mail rather than increase the volume! LMAO

This could be one of the unintended consequences of shifting to Microsoft's ISV Royalty Licensing Program

It would appear from the outside as though Verizon Wireless is deeply rooted in M$ technology now.

dotf said,
This could be one of the unintended consequences of shifting to Microsoft's ISV Royalty Licensing Program

It would appear from the outside as though Verizon Wireless is deeply rooted in M$ technology now.


With all the money you are saving not using Microsoft's products, how can you not afford to purchase a new "S" key?

omnicoder said,

With all the money you are saving not using Microsoft's products, how can you not afford to purchase a new "S" key?

LOL

This is why.. all phones should come unlocked!.. no carrier should have control over the phone.. All this contract nonsense is BS..

If you want it unlocked the be ready to pay the full price. Good bye nice $99 and $199 deals for phones and hello $600+ prices!

Carriers take a hit and sell you the damn thing for half price, some times even more than half, plus it's their network so if they want to make a deal with a specific provider for a specific service that's fine. You can always point your phones browser to another website if you want.

GP007 - True, but some providers won't even let you use an unlocked phone on their service. I don't think Verizon will, anyway.

There should be an option.

GP007 said,
If you want it unlocked the be ready to pay the full price. Good bye nice $99 and $199 deals for phones and hello $600+ prices!

Carriers take a hit and sell you the damn thing for half price, some times even more than half, plus it's their network so if they want to make a deal with a specific provider for a specific service that's fine. You can always point your phones browser to another website if you want.

You clearly have not been outside the North American Continent.. Go to the otherside man... Very few companies have contracts.. They hardly get any business.. EVERYONE buys phones unlocked!...

Shadrack said,
GP007 - True, but some providers won't even let you use an unlocked phone on their service. I don't think Verizon will, anyway.

There should be an option.


Hopefully that changes in the future in the US.. I think its absurd.. I like the fact that googles selling their phone seperately.. I think Apple should to.. I think everyone should sell unlocked phones.. that way you clear the way for good phones.. and not just an overload of "I want a piece of that market to" Attitude!

dimithrak said,
This is why.. all phones should come unlocked!.. no carrier should have control over the phone.. All this contract nonsense is BS..


BlackBerry devices, unless exclusive, don't come locked. This isn't a locking issue, it's a push change.

dimithrak said,


You clearly have not been outside the North American Continent.. Go to the otherside man... Very few companies have contracts.. They hardly get any business.. EVERYONE buys phones unlocked!...


What the hell are you talking about? Don't just say things against the grain to make someone look wrong. All you're doing is making yourself look dumb.

Nashy said,

What the hell are you talking about? Don't just say things against the grain to make someone look wrong. All you're doing is making yourself look dumb.

Alright... tell me where I am wrong...

A few years ago, ATT made a search deal with Yahoo! and users could not change from the Yahoo! search provider. My Samsung Sync and Samsung BlackJack both had search providers and home pages set that could not be changed.

its been all over the place, my BB 9630 didnt get switched but I know of others who have...note sure if it affected BES users (mine) or BIS users

Almost everyone is using Google for searching so switching some users to Bing is a good thing from this point of view. Of course, not giving any choice is wrong, so thats the part they need to fix.

but there are avenues for folks to use google. have absolutely no access would be the issue.

plus, comscore and others seems to suggest that mobile searches do not ammount to much anyways. googe will always have the most control over information.

Not entirely, users can still use other search engines. I don't own a blackberry but couldn't you set your homepage for your browser as whatever search engine you want? Or is it more integrated than that?

Up until now, you could always change these settings, but from what people are saying, Bing is locked into place.

That's the line that concerns me. I think BlackBerry might have a search bar of some sort somewhere...

Anyway, the iPhone isn't much better, it only offers a few search choices. Considering how simple it is to implement support for any search engine (there's a standard), I find it shocking that these phones opt for search deals instead.

Simon said,
That's the line that concerns me. I think BlackBerry might have a search bar of some sort somewhere...

Anyway, the iPhone isn't much better, it only offers a few search choices. Considering how simple it is to implement support for any search engine (there's a standard), I find it shocking that these phones opt for search deals instead.



There is a search bar on the default browser, right now I have google, wikipedia and dictionary.com

Simon said,
That's the line that concerns me. I think BlackBerry might have a search bar of some sort somewhere...

Anyway, the iPhone isn't much better, it only offers a few search choices. Considering how simple it is to implement support for any search engine (there's a standard), I find it shocking that these phones opt for search deals instead.



And the iphone only offers them because apple doesn't have it's own search service!

I kid I kid

Or do I? :P

Firefox doesn't list bing as a search provider, one muse manually go to the site. Most users won't be aware of a bing add-on.

I say meh. Google crap come pre-installed on so many pcs these days. Live crap will be coming if not already. (except security essentials... them is good)

Google needs to be taken down just a slight notch anyways. As much as I like them, I don't want one company to control THAT much Information. Whether they'd use it nefariously or not is not the point.

As we have all learnt, you cannot be anti-competitive unless you are a monopoly right? That's the reason why Apple can bundle Safari in Mac OSX and not get sued to death.

Applying the same principle, Bing cannot be anti-competitive.

Or does anti-competitiveness only apply to MS?

The Live apps are good though, if you needed them, MSE, Writer, Photo, Mail, and Messanger if you need that. Movie maker has also improved in the newest version. And they're pretty much optional, though some OEMs have started to install them, but I'd take those over crap like Norton trial version and w/e toolbars they can think of.

Shokus said,
As we have all learnt, you cannot be anti-competitive unless you are a monopoly right? That's the reason why Apple can bundle Safari in Mac OSX and not get sued to death.

Applying the same principle, Bing cannot be anti-competitive.

Or does anti-competitiveness only apply to MS?

What MS isn't allowed to do is use Windows to gain an unfair advantage over competitors, such as to dump IE on the market to stifle Firefox. As long as MS isn't using Windows to force people to use Bing, it can make exclusive deals for Bing with other companies.

And why do people constantly bring up that Apple argument!? Apple isn't a monopoly. No matter what Apple bundles with OS X it cannot control other markets with it because OS X is a niche, alternative OS. Windows is the monopoly, with at least 90% control of the global market.

The only potentially viable Apple anti-competition argument would have to do with the using the iPod (where one could argue they have monopoly powers) to influence other markets (i.e. iTunes, etc).

toadeater said,
And why do people constantly bring up that Apple argument!? Apple isn't a monopoly. No matter what Apple bundles with OS X it cannot control other markets with it because OS X is a niche, alternative OS. Windows is the monopoly, with at least 90% control of the global market.

MS never forced you to use IE either.. I've been using IE and other browsers since Windows 3.11.. Only babies need the other options served too them..

Speaking of which how long until Opera takes this to the EU ? Sure it has nothing to do with browsers, and nothing to do with Europe, but I'm sure that's a minor technicalities to Opera and the EU when they have a chance to try and shaft MS for no real reason lol

Shokus said,
As we have all learnt, you cannot be anti-competitive unless you are a monopoly right? That's the reason why Apple can bundle Safari in Mac OSX and not get sued to death.

Applying the same principle, Bing cannot be anti-competitive.

Or does anti-competitiveness only apply to MS?

Many would lead you to believe that...

toadeater said,
And why do people constantly bring up that Apple argument!? Apple isn't a monopoly. No matter what Apple bundles with OS X it cannot control other markets with it because OS X is a niche, alternative OS. Windows is the monopoly, with at least 90% control of the global market.

Also, Bing isn't a monopoly. That's why he brought that argument. Because some other dude said Bing is being anti competitive.

My Tour has Google, but for how long? I rebooted my phone 30 minutes ago and when it came back on there was a Bing icon on my home screen. After another reboot will big G be gone?