Windows Phone reportedly gets 'smoked' by Android but does not pay up [Update]

Microsoft upped the stakes this weekend when it offered up a hefty prize if you were able to “smoke” a Windows Phone.  What started out as a direct-to-consumer, light-hearted campaign, has quickly turned sour as one individual was able to successfully capture the Internet’s attention after he claims he won a challenge, but then was denied the prize “just because”, according to Sahas Katta blog (via Reddit)

The challenge was to pull up the weather from two different cities. After doing a power cycle on the device (Samsung Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.0) Sahas felt like he had struck gold because he already had two weather widgets on his home screen. When the challenge kicked off, he narrowly beat the Microsoft store employee even though they had two weather locations pinned to their start screen.

The Microsoft Store employee I was up against then explained the selected challenge. Her exact words were the following: “bring up the weather of two different cities.” The one who could do that first would win. I felt like I struck gold since I knew I already had two weather widgets on my home screen: one for my current location (San Jose, CA) and another for Berkeley, CA.

After defeating the store employee, he was quickly told he had not won. Sahas states he pushed for a real answer but was never given a firm response. When another employee came over to investigate (possibly a store manager), he was told that he lost because the cities were not in two different states. The reason for the loss was clearly not relevant as Sahas claimed that was not part of the initial challenge.

Now, taking a step back, this is only one side of the story and as typical with these types of incidents, the Internet caught this like the flu and Microsoft will surely have to respond to keep the ‘smoked by Windows Phone’ campaign from being soured by this incident.

To go further, Neowin has known at least one individual who did beat a Windows Phone in the challenge at CES and Microsoft did pay up on the spot. What has most likely happened, is that what was once a well orchestrated promotion has been spoiled when it left the confines of the individual who created it.

 

Microsoft’s BenthePCguy has already responded to the complaint but was simply offering the individual a rematch. Of course, Ben cannot blindly admit defeat based on what has been posted on the Internet, but when a prize of over $1000.00 is on the line, Sahas was most likely not looking for a rematch.

How Microsoft will move forward with the ‘Smoked by Windows Phone’ is looking a bit more uncertain, but if more allegations like the one above start hitting the web, it could be disastrous for the marketing campaign. 

We also have a discussion in our forums about the whole incident which you can read here.

UpdateBenthePCguy has just made a post on his Twitter account and is looking to make the situation right and has offered up a laptop and a new Windows Phone to Sahas.

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What I don't like about the campaign )from what I saw on the video clips) is the phones are never down on a table next to each other where the video viewer can see what is happening. There needs to be more video control of the screens so everyone can see which phone beat what.

Its a stupid campaign, they are asking for this sort of result sooner or later, its a marketing fail that was bound to happen.

Im just waiting for them to come to a city near me so I can smoke them. Hell, Ill accept $500 but as long as I can record a video with Ben saying "Hi. Im Ben. My Windows Phone 7 did not smoke , it got anal f.........you know what.........by a Android device. 2 Android users that know how to set up their devices properly, 300 (or whatever the number) Windows Phone 7 phones that have smoked other devices. Keep them coming!"

htcz said,
Im just waiting for them to come to a city near me so I can smoke them. Hell, Ill accept $500 but as long as I can record a video with Ben saying "Hi. Im Ben. My Windows Phone 7 did not smoke , it got anal f.........you know what.........by a Android device. 2 Android users that know how to set up their devices properly, 300 (or whatever the number) Windows Phone 7 phones that have smoked other devices. Keep them coming!"

I.... don't quite understand what you're trying to say.

resol612 said,

I.... don't quite understand what you're trying to say.


Then its obvious you dont know how to read or english is not your first language.

htcz said,
Im just waiting for them to come to a city near me so I can smoke them. Hell, Ill accept $500 but as long as I can record a video with Ben saying "Hi. Im Ben. My Windows Phone 7 did not smoke , it got anal f.........(etc)

No offense, but that just sounded like how a small kid would imagine punching someone he hates...

And once again proving that Android is indeed faster than Windows Phone 7.

And Microsoft backing up like a bitch when it comes to light Gotta love it

htcz said,
And once again proving that Android is indeed faster than Windows Phone 7.

And Microsoft backing up like a bitch when it comes to light Gotta love it

I think you are living in a dream world, the android phone that was used was configured to boot without going to the lock screen which google itself shouldn't be done on ICS, so he was not using the standard recommended settings of the phone to begin, android babies at it once again, maybe you want some apple sauce with your ice cream. and maybe just maybe he was full of crap and didn't even win and just made the whole story up, I don't see any reason for the MS store to say he lost other than he lost, MS had openly admitted its previous loses in over competitions, I think this guy was just full of ****.

korupt_one said,

I think you are living in a dream world, the android phone that was used was configured to boot without going to the lock screen which google itself shouldn't be done on ICS, so he was not using the standard recommended settings of the phone to begin, android babies at it once again, maybe you want some apple sauce with your ice cream. and maybe just maybe he was full of crap and didn't even win and just made the whole story up, I don't see any reason for the MS store to say he lost other than he lost, MS had openly admitted its previous loses in over competitions, I think this guy was just full of ****.


Tell me where in the contest it said it had to be standard configuration please, Im begging you, tell me....

For those who side with the "whiney" guy about winning and not getting paid....GET OVER IT!

You won't know the truth ever since neither side will admist defeat. MS didn't give in they had to quash the story before the whole campaign became useless. This "guy" knows how the press would pick this up as most people do nowadays. You think that most lawsuits are won based on the actual merits of the case or the PR that it generates?

Give it a rest. $1000 is not the problem for MS but if they don't put more controls on it then they will have more PR seeking crybabies trying to get the media stirred up.

It needs to recorded and that is the only way that they can keep things in check. Record every challange and replay it. If it is questionable then post a blog up and let the public decide. This would be both positive PR for them win or lose.


Their first response SUCKED so bad. The guy beats you and you want a rematch? lame.

Glad to see they finally decided it was bad for their PR and gave in

Here is my challenge to Microsoft. I'll do it with my GNex and you can do it with any Windows Phone. To be fair, let's start from a brand new phone with just your sign-in information already loaded. Don't install anything else.

Challenge 1) Go to the app market and download a custom lock screen and customize it with a weather widget and a camera widget.
Challenge 2) Go to the app market and download a custom keyboard.
Challenge 3) Go to any site and download and set an image as your wallpaper.
Challenge 4) Set up an "animated" wallpaper.

Will you accept?

UndergroundWire said,
....

I see you picked things that have been purposely left out of Windows Phone redesign.

That's all well and good.
How quick is it to take an image from a web page and make it a wallpaper?

I consider my lock screen image to be an equivalent to android wallpaper.
If we agree on that point, maybe I could smoke you on #3.

Edited by deadonthefloor, Mar 26 2012, 6:19pm :

dotf said,

I see you picked things that have been purposely left out of Windows Phone redesign.

That's all well and good.
How quick is it to take an image from a web page and make it a wallpaper?

I consider my lock screen image to be an equivalent to android wallpaper.
If we agree on that point, maybe I could smoke you on #3.

Sure we can, I still beat you 3 to 1.

UndergroundWire said,
Here is my challenge to Microsoft. I'll do it with my GNex and you can do it with any Windows Phone. To be fair, let's start from a brand new phone with just your sign-in information already loaded. Don't install anything else.

Challenge 1) Go to the app market and download a custom lock screen and customize it with a weather widget and a camera widget.
Challenge 2) Go to the app market and download a custom keyboard.
Challenge 3) Go to any site and download and set an image as your wallpaper.
Challenge 4) Set up an "animated" wallpaper.

Will you accept?

Fanboys never fail to tarnish the brands they are defending (oh the irony). Akin to MS fanboys challenging you to update Xbox Live stuff on your 'droid.

resol612 said,

Fanboys never fail to tarnish the brands they are defending (oh the irony). Akin to MS fanboys challenging you to update Xbox Live stuff on your 'droid.

That is dumb. I challenge to update your iTunes from your Windows Phone. You see how foolish you are? Can Windows Phone update PS3 stuff?

What I stated was not a Google thing. Google didn't event Custom Keyboards, animated wallpapers,widgets, lock screens. That's the difference between me and you. I'm not foolish to suggest such a dumb thing.

That was the most worthless comment of the day. CONGRATULATIONS.

UndergroundWire said,
Here is my challenge to Microsoft. I'll do it with my GNex and you can do it with any Windows Phone. To be fair, let's start from a brand new phone with just your sign-in information already loaded. Don't install anything else.

Challenge 1) Go to the app market and download a custom lock screen and customize it with a weather widget and a camera widget.
Challenge 2) Go to the app market and download a custom keyboard.
Challenge 3) Go to any site and download and set an image as your wallpaper.
Challenge 4) Set up an "animated" wallpaper.

Will you accept?

You forgot about Challenge 5 - go to the Android marketplace and download some malware... haha

NeoPogo said,

You forgot about Challenge 5 - go to the Android marketplace and download some malware... haha

Perfect for you. But since I'm smart on what I install you would win that round.

Looks like the guy got what he wanted in the end... a laptop AND a WP7 phone... wow.

I had the impression that the competition was best of 3 tasks or something, didn't know it is one task only.

Oh, and +1 for Android customizability! Wish that WP8 will be as customizable as Android and Microsoft will open up more device APIs and let user apps have "administrator" privileges (hmm "admin" on windows = "root" in Android, right?) if the user accepts a UAC (superuser?) like prompt. Then Microsoft might be able to get me to switch to Windows Phone.

Kai Y said,
Looks like the guy got what he wanted in the end... a laptop AND a WP7 phone... wow.

I had the impression that the competition was best of 3 tasks or something, didn't know it is one task only.

Oh, and +1 for Android customizability! Wish that WP8 will be as customizable as Android and Microsoft will open up more device APIs and let user apps have "administrator" privileges (hmm "admin" on windows = "root" in Android, right?) if the user accepts a UAC (superuser?) like prompt. Then Microsoft might be able to get me to switch to Windows Phone.


I'm sorry, but really I don't think anyone would want to deal with permissions and excessive prompts asking for permission on their phone.

Kai Y said,
...

I'm sorry you feel that way.
I want a consumer electronics device that works reliably all the time, every time.
What you are asking for is enough rope to hang yourself.

The reason WP is so great is because of how developers are restricted from doing damage to the underlying system, and the users are prevented from accidentally compromising their security.

There are ways, outside the realm of 'supported' to get that sort of access to the Windows Phone, it's just not advised or publicized.

dotf said,

I'm sorry you feel that way.
I want a consumer electronics device that works reliably all the time, every time.
What you are asking for is enough rope to hang yourself.

The reason WP is so great is because of how developers are restricted from doing damage to the underlying system, and the users are prevented from accidentally compromising their security.

There are ways, outside the realm of 'supported' to get that sort of access to the Windows Phone, it's just not advised or publicized.

I know that restrictions can be good... but I *hope* that we can overcome the restrictions just like jailbreaking on iOS and rooting on Android. Yes, I want my phone to be reliable by default. That's why I wanted a UAC-like option. Not like Android's permission system, but a system where I can choose to override the security system if I so desire, so that I can develop apps that do what I want MY phone to do, for my own phone.

For instance on my current Android phone I can do stuff like location-based or time-based profile switching (like automatic silent mode at workplace, or auto-silent at night). I also rooted my phone and tweaked the way the light sensor adjusts the backlight (as I prefer my display dimmer than most other people).

On my Windows 7 laptop, for instance, nothing is stopping me from writing an app to control the volume. Or write an app to change the network settings, which will work if I "Run as Administrator". Or other crazy stuff that I can do on my PC.

My issue with WP7 is that Microsoft is going for the lowest common denominator. They have built an OS that is easy and reliable, but have alienated their power-users from the WM6 days when people could do all sorts of tweaks and even flash custom roms (the name of the site xda-developers comes from the fact that the site used to focus on the O2 XDA Windows Mobile phones!). Power users like me know that rooting/jailbreaking/tweaking comes with risks but we also know how to backup our data before doing anything, as well as how to restore if anything goes wrong.

Personally I love WP7's UI, but I want control over my device and make it do what I want. Thus the hope that Microsoft will give power users the ability to have more control over their devices. So that I can have my cake (nice UI) and eat it too (lots of customizability).

And yes, I've been trying to find out more about Interop Unlock (which from my understanding is the WP7 equivalent of rooting/jailbreaking). But it seems quite a finicky process and no proper Interop Unlock has been found for the nice new Nokia Lumia phones (from XDA's forums, one had been found but it relied on a Nokia app that is no longer in the Marketplace). In addition, even if a process is found, Microsoft may decide to patch it the next OS release since it most likely exploits a flaw in the OS.

I'm pretty sure that is a HUGE market for phones and apps that go beyond what the current public APIs can do. Otherwise, iPhones would never be jailbroken, Android phones would never be rooted and no one would ever want or need an Interop Unlock with WP7.

But if Microsoft says, okay, we give you the ability to do what you want on your phone but it isn't recommended. If UAC is too irritating and difficult for the normal user, maybe MS can require such apps to be signed with a dev cert that is tied to the particular device, to keep such apps out of casual users (i.e. you must know how to sign an app to use such apps).

That would be very nice - and I'm guessing a bunch of iPhone and Android users who are frustrated with having to wait for the next jailbreak/root again and again when new firmware is released will choose to move over to an OS that you can do whatever you want.

Edited by Kai Y, Mar 27 2012, 11:57am :

M_Lyons10 said,
So, once again a company bows down and appeases a bitter customer...

Not really: a company made a big mistake and now it is in a full "Damage control" spin.......

BTW nothing specifically related to MS: years a go a very big car maker ran a promotion in Europe: they attached a small, flat, plastic replica of a traffic light in several magazines and invited people to go to the car dealers and try inserting the gadget in a box: green light you win a car, yellow a moped, red..... try again.....

They announced, in advance, that there was one car and one hundred mopeds available. What happened is that whoever produced these miniature "Traffic lights" made some kind of production mistake so instead of one hundred devices generating a yellow light they ended up with a thousand of them bundled with the magazines.
Correctly the company did not argue at all but deliver a moped to one thousand winners. Obviously they took the traffic light maker in court for damages.................

Assuming (again that is assuming) that the guy actually won, I think the store manager should have been more diplomatic with his approach - gave him a netbook or something or a Windows Phone, but it is nice to know that Ben corrected all of this even without knowing exactly what transpired.

Figured it was only a mattered of time before something like this happened. I firmly believe that positive emotion trumps negative. Not sure that "smoking" people is the best route but oh well, press is press.

If it's a "Random Challenge", why does this Ben guy always cook up the challenge? That's not random, that's contrived.

simplezz said,
If it's a "Random Challenge", why does this Ben guy always cook up the challenge? That's not random, that's contrived.

Well someone has to cook up the challenge, right? And Ben usually asks what the competing person does on their phones before suggesting a challenge.

So, when a person says "I use my phone to update & check facebook", Ben suggests a status update challenge. I personally don't think that it's rigged.

FalseAgent said,
.....

Of course it's rigged.

The 'random' challenges are from a list contrived ones.
Anyone who owns a windows phone would know that if it highlights the phone's design, it will be showcased.

simplezz said,
If it's a "Random Challenge", why does this Ben guy always cook up the challenge? That's not random, that's contrived.

So if I ask you to give me a random sentence, I can claim that your answer is contrived because you have to cook it up? Either I'm stupid or you are...

simplezz said,
If it's a "Random Challenge", why does this Ben guy always cook up the challenge? That's not random, that's contrived.

Maybe they can have a challenge of rooting one's smartphone. Would that make you happy? Probably not... considering "rooting" isn't necessary to unlock any particular feature on an updated Windows Phone.

Still think the challenge was silly to begin with. Checking weather in two different cities under three seconds? Big deal.

Well in all fairness, tiles could be considered as widgets in the Android world. How about we have a challenge and use a phone like a phone. How about we recreate a real world experience such as text 10 friends to meet up for lunch. Another situation could be that a friend wants to meet us both for dinner at a restaurant that we don't know and want's us to be there in half an hour. Which phone can take me there the quickest using the address from the text message to the map software and use GPS to navigate me?

Real world usage tests would be nice. Not simple ones but ones that challenge both the phones OS in terms of usability and applicability.

Meh, I don't think MS did anything wrong here. This is like saying "the first to completely shut off their phone wins" and the guy ripping the battery out. He found a technical loop hole, which I say is BS.

rev23dev said,
He found a technical loop hole, which I say is BS.

How so? It's not like he knew the conditions before the contest. The phone was in an acceptable everyday state using functions that are both built into the phone or found in the Play store. He just got really lucky that his everyday use of the phone matched the conditions of the contest.

I think Microsoft is stretching things a bit by having two tiles pre-configured with the weather before the contest without giving the other an opportunity to do the same with widgets.

contriver87 said,

How so? It's not like he knew the conditions before the contest. The phone was in an acceptable everyday state using functions that are both built into the phone or found in the Play store. He just got really lucky that his everyday use of the phone matched the conditions of the contest.

I think Microsoft is stretching things a bit by having two tiles pre-configured with the weather before the contest without giving the other an opportunity to do the same with widgets.

After closer reading I agree with you. It was a stupid challenge in the first place unless they knew other phones couldn't do that. I love the updated Weather App that allows pinning, but they should have been smart enough to know other phone OS could do that, too.

I'm still not sure how they lost. Shouldn't it have been a tie?

As I predicted in the back page news section, Microsoft has payed up. This challenge was a PR nightmare for them. Microsoft changes its rules to suite their needs. This is not what Microsoft wanted in the headlines today. If you issue a challenge and somebody who is a lot smarter than you can defeat you, shut up and pay up.

The GNex was not rooted/jailbroken in any way. Microsoft fanboys are just not aware that YES you can customize the lock screen without being rooted. You can customize a lot of things without being rooted. It is a simple fact. This guy did it and got payed. This silly challenge made Microsoft look bad. BRAVO!

UndergroundWire said,

The GNex was not rooted/jailbroken in any way. Microsoft fanboys are just not aware that YES you can customize the lock screen without being rooted. You can customize a lot of things without being rooted. It is a simple fact. This guy did it and got payed. This silly challenge made Microsoft look bad. BRAVO!

Exactly. You can go to the lock screen settings on any Android phone and select none, which disables it. WP7 devices simply can't do this.

simplezz said,

Exactly. You can go to the lock screen settings on any Android phone and select none, which disables it. WP7 devices simply can't do this.

Actually you are wrong. If you select none, you will have a lock screen (it's just a slide to unlock).

What this guy did was install an app to bypass that. No root needed. Something similar to WidgetLocker (or maybe it is the app). What you can do with this app is customize the lock screen or disable it completely. You can customize it to put a weather widget on your lock screen .

Very simple, anyone can do it since no root is required.

Actually you are wrong. If you select none, you will have no lock screen. Selecting slide will give you slide to unlock. It's stock ICS behaviour

I thought these competitions were about performing actual tasks, not who can pre-set their phone ahead of time and show their home screens faster. That's pretty boring. It would be like two people competing to see who can prepare a cake faster, but both of them have cakes they bought at Walmart, so one guy loses because his cake is still in the plastic container while the other guy thought to remove it in advance. Ha! Faster cake! Same thing here, no lock screen. Ha! Faster weather display!

Enron said,
I thought these competitions were about performing actual tasks, not who can pre-set their phone ahead of time and show their home screens faster. That's pretty boring. It would be like two people competing to see who can prepare a cake faster, but both of them have cakes they bought at Walmart, so one guy loses because his cake is still in the plastic container while the other guy thought to remove it in advance. Ha! Faster cake! Same thing here, no lock screen. Ha! Faster weather display!

Thank you!!!

Why hold such a controversial promotion at all?. If this promotion is continued, it's going to cause more such incidents. And what does it matter if I take 5 seconds longer on Android? Speed isn't everything. Features ARE everything. The more features the phone has, the more value for money I get.

xpclient said,
Why hold such a controversial promotion at all?. If this promotion is continued, it's going to cause more such incidents. And what does it matter if I take 5 seconds longer on Android? Speed isn't everything. Features ARE everything. The more features the phone has, the more value for money I get.

Everybody =\= you

xpclient said,
Why hold such a controversial promotion at all?.

To prove three things. In the following example, you is joe consumer, not xpclient.

1) you don't know how to use your cell phone to its fullest potential.
2) your phone OS manufacturer doesn't care about making it easy to use the device.
3) Windows Phone is something fresh and new. The story is about you and your friends and your content.

I like it when windows phones get smoked. More often than not, it just means that the winner knows to use their device. There are only a few scenarios where I would argue with the winner of such a challenge.

Now that the ante has been upped, there needs to be some ground rules set by MSFT.

The first one I can think of atm is No Custom ROMs. This invalidates the contest.

dotf said,

To prove three things. In the following example, you is joe consumer, not xpclient.

1) you don't know how to use your cell phone to its fullest potential.
2) your phone OS manufacturer doesn't care about making it easy to use the device.
3) Windows Phone is something fresh and new. The story is about you and your friends and your content.

I like it when windows phones get smoked. More often than not, it just means that the winner knows to use their device. There are only a few scenarios where I would argue with the winner of such a challenge.

Now that the ante has been upped, there needs to be some ground rules set by MSFT.

The first one I can think of atm is No Custom ROMs. This invalidates the contest.

Yeah and hope this ends up not ruining Windows Phone's reputation.

Microsoft should pay, and include "without using widgets" in the contest rules. Obviously, whoever has widgets/live tiles/stuff on the home screen will be faster.

If the MS employee had live tiles for two people, and said "check the Facebook statuses of two people", wouldn't people say it isn't fair?

Aethec said,
Microsoft should pay, and include "without using widgets" in the contest rules. Obviously, whoever has widgets/live tiles/stuff on the home screen will be faster.

If the MS employee had live tiles for two people, and said "check the Facebook statuses of two people", wouldn't people say it isn't fair?


You're over thinking it. The solution is really simple.

Microsoft should do what happened: offer a rematch. If you're confident you have a faster device, the thought of a rematch shouldn't be off-putting, and you'd be happy for another chance to prove your handset is faster. If you run away from a rematch, it shows that you either have doubts about your phone, or perhaps that a blog post wasn't entirely honest in the first place.

Then, the contest should have been defined as who can get an UP TO DATE weather forecast. Anyone can turn on their phone, but the question is: how old is the weather info in that widget? Is it automatically updating at boot? Every few hours? Every time you unlock the phone? Should someone be allowed to win when they're looking at a 4 hour old weather info? That needs to be spelled out (and it's easy enough to leave carrier quality out of the mix: just let everyone competing use store wifi).

M_Lyons10 said,
I love these whiney people. So, we're just supposed to take his word for it? LOL

really?? I have seen you whining in here when something like this happen... when u say something at least try to follow it.

DevilsNotDead said,

really?? I have seen you whining in here when something like this happen... when u say something at least try to follow it.

Pssst: This is Neowin; if it were Apple and not Microsoft you would have seen comments about the evil corporation trying to cheat a customer etc. etc..........
BTW I use a Nokia Lumia 800, not Apple or Android devices...............… and I miss my older HD7..........

Still waiting for other side of story, I can claim i can fly, but until someone saw me flying, it cant be taken as truth.

simrat said,
Still waiting for other side of story, I can claim i can fly, but until someone saw me flying, it cant be taken as truth.

I heard there was someone on Neowin who could fly. Slap it on the front page.

They're in damage control mode right now so what do you expect? They probably thought: "Oh well, one ****ed off consumer won't effect us".

All things being equal, I always enjoy how some people will tend to side towards a corporation, who we all know would never lie, cheat or steal to win :-) WTFU already.

Hahaiah said,
All things being equal, I always enjoy how some people will tend to side towards a corporation, who we all know would never lie, cheat or steal to win :-) WTFU already.

And a bitter Android fanboy wouldn't lie for a $1,000 computer and the chance to claim superiority? LOL

I don't see how we can just believe somebody on face value. Especially considering Microsoft HAS in the past admitted losses (Though not many, as it's a fast platform). Why should this alleged loss be any different? I call nonsense solely because of the past admissions...

And I'm sure he won't be taking them up on the offer of a rematch either...

Hahaiah said,
All things being equal, I always enjoy how some people will tend to side towards a corporation, who we all know would never lie, cheat or steal to win :-) WTFU already.

It's no better than people blindly siding with a whiny blog post with zero evidence backing up the guy's claims just because it jives with beliefs people already hold about corporations being mean to 'real people'.

Hahaiah said,
All things being equal, I always enjoy how some people will tend to side towards a corporation, who we all know would never lie, cheat or steal to win :-) WTFU already.

Just an observation really, but you two nicely made my point for me, knowing little to nothing and making comments like "whiney" and other assumptions is very telling. I couldn't care less who won, but I'm not stupid enough to take any corporation's word on anything, doesn't mean I believe the other guy either.

M_Lyons10 said,

And a bitter Android fanboy wouldn't lie for a $1,000 computer and the chance to claim superiority? LOL

I don't see how we can just believe somebody on face value. Especially considering Microsoft HAS in the past admitted losses (Though not many, as it's a fast platform). Why should this alleged loss be any different? I call nonsense solely because of the past admissions...

And I'm sure he won't be taking them up on the offer of a rematch either...


seems like MS admitted it and they want to make it right http://www.androidcentral.com/...ut-windows-phone-smoked-win

Microsoft you never cease to surprise me. Here, I thought they were connecting to their users more better recently...

SPARTdAN said,
Microsoft you never cease to surprise me. Here, I thought they were connecting to their users more better recently...

More better

Oh well, it's hard to keep this fair among so many employees. But the response was a nice move from Ben anyway.

I love the Windows Phone challenges, but I think Microsoft is now pushing it too much. Don't you guys think? The other thing is that people will slowly learn how to beat the challenges. They can get "ready" for them, you know what I mean?

As much as I love WP7 and Android both, Android is much faster at performing certain tasks. These kinds of competition favor Microsoft anyway.

tsupersonic said,
As much as I love WP7 and Android both, Android is much faster at performing certain tasks. These kinds of competition favor Microsoft anyway.

I guess that's fair since they bring the money.

tsupersonic said,
As much as I love WP7 and Android both, Android is much faster at performing certain tasks. These kinds of competition favor Microsoft anyway.

It is amazing how this article did not report the FULL story as it is known. The Android device was configured in an unrecommended configuration (even according to google). All competitions need to have rules and this guy did not play by them to only narrowly win. Seems cheats still get their prize.

Microsoft should have just paid the guy, it's not like it's going to break the bank. It would also entice others to take the challenge as others would try and beat it too. This just looks like sour grapes and is going to destroy the campaign as no one will trust it, perhaps they should have been more specific in the first place. .

REM2000 said,
Microsoft should have just paid the guy, it's not like it's going to break the bank. It would also entice others to take the challenge as others would try and beat it too. This just looks like sour grapes and is going to destroy the campaign as no one will trust it, perhaps they should have been more specific in the first place. .

I'm still skeptical, and I doubt we'll ever hear the other side of the story.

Can't help but keep in mind that there are people out there who will do or say anything to get a 1000$ freebie.

Relativity_17 said,

I'm still skeptical, and I doubt we'll ever hear the other side of the story.

Can't help but keep in mind that there are people out there who will do or say anything to get a 1000$ freebie.

Agreed.

Relativity_17 said,

I'm still skeptical, and I doubt we'll ever hear the other side of the story.

Can't help but keep in mind that there are people out there who will do or say anything to get a 1000$ freebie.


Yup, it's absolutely idiotic how the whole Internet has fallen in love with the blog post of one guy that writes like a sore loser. He may be right, or he may be severely twisting the truth, but one thing's for sure: skepticism is on vacation today. Every tech blog has picked this 'story' up.

REM2000 said,
Microsoft should have just paid the guy, it's not like it's going to break the bank. It would also entice others to take the challenge as others would try and beat it too. This just looks like sour grapes and is going to destroy the campaign as no one will trust it, perhaps they should have been more specific in the first place. .

I totally get the scepticism as half of me is sceptical as well, however as per the update of Ben sending the stuff, thats exactly what i would do as the main point of the exercise is promotion and advertisement. What a great way to get the word out, i.e. i won a laptop and cash etc.. alright android beat the Windows Phone because of specifics but again it shines a positive light on Microsoft and the Windows Platform instead of a negative light which it had before.

Relativity_17 said,

I'm still skeptical, and I doubt we'll ever hear the other side of the story.

Can't help but keep in mind that there are people out there who will do or say anything to get a 1000$ freebie.


skepticism really? this guy didnt make this a news... its the tech sites which made this a news... he would be surprised to see this getting picked up by every tech websites.
also MS said they want to make it right and payup this guy.
http://www.androidcentral.com/...ut-windows-phone-smoked-win

still1 said,

skepticism really? this guy didnt make this a news... its the tech sites which made this a news... he would be surprised to see this getting picked up by every tech websites.
also MS said they want to make it right and payup this guy.
http://www.androidcentral.com/...ut-windows-phone-smoked-win

Actually, he submitted the story himself to a bunch of tech blogs at the urging of the Reddit community (who also submitted it all over again for him), where it was initially blown out of proportion.