joe arpaio Arpaio Obama Probe Finds 'national security threat'

[nominak]

LOL Here's a funny conspiracy for ya's.

Arpaio told WND he intends to move the investigation and the new information to a higher authority within the federal government because of what he calls an imminent threat to national security and U.S. immigration laws. The threat is posed by a flaw in Hawaii?s law discovered by his investigators that allows a foreigner to obtain a Hawaii birth certificate.

?Although I am having a difficult time deciding who to forward this information to given the fact that the obvious choices report directly to the president, I cannot stand by and hold on to information that threatens to weaken national security,? Arpaio said.

Arpaio said he intends on keeping a case file open if more information surfaces or if federal authorities decide to ignore the case.

Zullo explained that along with new information discovered regarding the birth certificate since the posse?s March 1 press conference, his team has discovered Hawaii provides easy access to a birth certificate, even if the child wasn?t born in the state.

Under Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8, a person only has to be an established resident of Hawaii, not necessarily a U.S. citizen, and pay taxes there for one year to be able to register an out-of-state or foreign-born person with an official Hawaii birth certificate.

?If a nation?s security is only as strong as its weakest link, then America may be in serious trouble,? Arpaio said in a statement. ?Hawaii may be our weakest link and could have a serious impact on our nation?s immigration policy.?

Among the new findings presented by lead Cold Case Posse investigator Mike Zullo:

• The sheriff?s investigators have learned of a birth certificate coding system that indicates the White House document has been altered.
  

• An interview with the Hawaii official who allegedly signed the Obama document in 1961, Verna K.L. Lee, provided further confirmation of the coding anomalies.
  

• Investigators were troubled to find key information missing on the verification document Hawaii provided to Arizona?s secretary of state in May.
  

• Hawaii?s deputy attorney general, Jill T. Nagamine, confirm the state has a birth document on file for Obama. But she would not confirm on the record that the White House document matched what was on file with the Hawaii Department of Health.
  

• The sheriff?s investigators interviewed three persons of interest who have provided additional information in the case.
  

In prepared opening remarks, Arpaio chastised the media for the way it has handled the investigation.

?You have demeaned this investigation at every turn as silly and wasteful,? he said. ?Your contempt about the subject and me for pursuing it has been duly noted.?

He urged media members to listen to Zullo?s presentation of the new evidence.

?Keep an open mind if you can,? he said. ?Put away all you pre conceived ideas. Keep your eye on the ball.?

Arpaio?s investigation was initiated last October when 250 Maricopa County citizens approached him for help because they believed the electronic document presented by the White House to the American public was a forgery. Arpaio said he went ahead with the probe with the intent of being able to clear the president and put the matter to rest. But he explained the investigation found too many inconsistencies on the birth certificate.

?We also looked into the president?s selective service registration card and found that it, too, appeared to be fraudulent,? Arpaio said.

Investigators since then have traveled to Hawaii and have interviewed more witnesses, the sheriff said.

Addressing the coding issue, Zullo explained that the Hawaii Department of Health, which categorized vital information issued at the time of the president?s birth, used specific number codes that were written in pencil to transfer information from a paper birth certificate to a database file.

The codes seen on the document issued by the White House are not consistent with the information entered into the various fields, indicating the document has been altered or amended.

In the coding system, the number 9 indicates the information is not stated, meaning there should not be any information in the box in which the number is written.

However, the number 9 can be seen written in pencil next to the fields for ?Usual Occupation,? ?Kind of Business or Industry? and ?Race of Father? on Obama?s document. Each of those fields are filled with information.

?This proves the document has been tampered with and information has been placed on it,? Zullo said.

Sheriff?s investigators tracked down the registrar who allegedly signed the White House?s birth document, U.K. Lee, who is now 95. She provided information that posed further inconsistencies with the story of Obama?s birth at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in 1961.

The investigators also analyzed the Hawaii Department of Health?s response to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett?s request that Obama?s birth information be verified.

They interviewed in person the Hawaii assistant attorney general to verify that the document presented by the White House was the same document on file with the Department of Health.

Investigators said they were troubled to find key information missing on the verification document, including the president?s date of birth.

They said they were equally troubled that the deputy attorney general would not confirm on record that the White House document matched what was on file with the health department.

The national security concerns raised by the investigation are based on Hawaii Revised Statute 338.17.8. which states:

338-17.8 Certificates for children born out of state.

Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

Arpaio and his investigators said they have deep concerns that the Hawaii Revised Statute is a loophole that makes it possible for foreign born children to illegally establish U.S. citizenship.

They said the concern is also relevant given the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling concerning Arizona?s proposed state immigration law, SB 1070, in which the federal court ruled state laws cannot be in contradiction or in conflict with federal law.

Zullo noted that, normally, when it?s necessary to prove a person is a U.S. Citizen, the main form of documentation is a state certificate of birth.

?It appears that in the case of Hawaii law, any person can obtain a birth certificate if any adult or their parents can prove that they resided in Hawaii for one year and paid taxes,? he said. ?There is no requirement to show that the child itself was actually born in Hawaii or on U.S. soil.?

http://www.wnd.com/2...y-threat/print/

Oh man.. that racist Joe Arpaio at it again.

Edited July 17, 2012 by Colin-uk
Changed title to lowercase - please dont use all caps in a thread title, thanks.

[Noir Angel]

This crap again? Obama's a Muslim, he's an Atheist, he's not a US citizen, he's a communist, he's a socialist... The latent bigotry and insanity of the right is never far from display.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

so obama's parents took advantage of a revision done in 1982, when obama was born in 1961

HOLY CRAP OBAMA IS A TIME TRAVELER

*Edit - guess people will look for anything and ignore obvious things, lol

[Windows Nashville]

What's the difference anyway? Plenty of people who were born in America hate the country just as much as Obama does.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

What's the difference anyway? Plenty of people who were born in America hate the country just as much as Obama does.

i dont hate america, just hate the a majority of the people in it, and most of those that run it

*edit - noticed it says Have instead of Hate

[pickytech]

This crap again? Obama's a Muslim, he's an Atheist, he's not a US citizen, he's a communist, he's a socialist... The latent bigotry and insanity of the right is never far from display.

Not really sure how much of this falls under bigotry unless you can only associate disagreement with racism. I don't know a single person that disagrees with Obama because he is black; I know that they exist, but seeing the presumptive association with disagreement as racism is a bit shortsighted. I do know that some question his religion, but that's because of his association with Jeremiah Wright and staunch weakness shown to Middle Eastern nations excluding Israel. A lot of people assume that the origins of the Birther movement originate from racists because he's the first black President; I imagine that there were quite a few racists in the original group, but he is also the first President that lived a significant portion of his life overseas where rumors existed that he even renounced (through his parents) his US Citizenship. He even makes huge points about living overseas in his two biographies.

Personally, I don't understand how any technical people can actually believe that the Birth Certificate is legitimate. It has layers that exist in locations on the PDF that are simply too convenient, not to mention his father's location is listed as a country that didn't exist when Obama was born. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's not a US Citizen born in Hawaii, but it does make it a pretty clear fake. I wouldn't be surprised if it simply had a different name listed, or perhaps something else, but something is very wrong about it.

Ignoring Obama, regarding the weak Birth Certificate issue, I should note that security cleared individuals can provide a Birth Certificate as a means for proving their US Citizenship, which means that that weakness becomes very relevant there. Not to mention the implications of paying taxes for one year to suddenly reap benefits from the rest of the social programs provided by the US government to its citizens.

[Biotoxic_hazard_835]

What in hell is wrong with this guy ? Doesn't he have some mexicans to go chase or something ?

[Noir Angel]

The "layers" on the PDF are explained by the fact that it was scanned with a multiple pass scanner. And sorry, whether you like it or not accusing someone of not being a US citizen is a form of racism.

[theyarecomingforyou]

Regardless of the technicalities of Obama's birth certificate - though the doubt is entirely manufactured - is there really any compelling reason not to allow somebody born outside of the US to run for President? It's not like people are going to vote in a Chinese national as President. And it's not as if it's to protect the integrity of the system, as there simply isn't any when Presidential candidates are funded by an elite minority of billionaires and influential corporations.

The birther movement - like the smear campaign alleging that he's Muslim - is inherently racist and it's inconceivable that the same sort of attacks would have been used had he been white. The US is still an incredibly racist country.

[Astra.Xtreme]

This crap again? Obama's a Muslim, he's an Atheist, he's not a US citizen, he's a communist, he's a socialist... The latent bigotry and insanity of the right is never far from display.

Nice job stereotyping...

[rfirth]

Not really sure how much of this falls under bigotry unless you can only associate disagreement with racism. I don't know a single person that disagrees with Obama because he is black; I know that they exist, but seeing the presumptive association with disagreement as racism is a bit shortsighted.

Disagreement with Obama isn't racist, but there are many people who are racist and disagree with Obama. If you're not racist, but still disagree with Obama... good for you. You're not racist. Nobody is saying that everyone who disagrees with Obama is racist. You're manufacturing controversy.

I do know that some question his religion, but that's because of his association with Jeremiah Wright

So people question that Obama is a Christian because Obama went to church? I know what you're saying, but it is pretty ironic.

He even makes huge points about living overseas in his two biographies.

It's nice having a president that can look at the US from an outsiders perspective. We need to be less arrogant with our foreign policy.

not to mention his father's location is listed as a country that didn't exist when Obama was born. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's not a US Citizen born in Hawaii, but it does make it a pretty clear fake.

Kenya has been known by the name Kenya [the Kenya Colony] for a very long time - long before 1961. The name Kenya wasn't invented in 1963/64. It's an old name that appears in many places. The official name is way too long to fit in that blank.

Nice job stereotyping...

Yes. I agree with his sentiment, but he's obviously exaggerating.

[a.mcdear]

This is sad. As a native Arizonan, I can tell you we all wish Arpaio would just keel over from pancreatic cancer or something. This is not what Arizona is about. He's rigged elections and gotten away with it for almost 20 years. Nobody actually wants this guy around anymore.

[pickytech]

The "layers" on the PDF are explained by the fact that it was scanned with a multiple pass scanner.

Not combined with the huge inconsistencies in the quality of the image in the areas that are layers.

And sorry, whether you like it or not accusing someone of not being a US citizen is a form of racism.

Why? Because the person happens to be black? Is it also racist to accuse a CEO of not really having a degree? What if they're white?

The need to see racism in everything is what leads to more racism.

The birther movement - like the smear campaign alleging that he's Muslim - is inherently racist and it's inconceivable that the same sort of attacks would have been used had he been white. The US is still an incredibly racist country.

I'll take this with a grain of salt coming from the person moonlighting as a racist. Both smear campaigns happened because he spent an enormous amount of time outside of the country during his youth, and a large portion of that was in a nation that is predominantly Muslim. Again, there are a bunch of racists, but you've made it quite clear that they don't only exist in the US.

Regardless of the technicalities of Obama's birth certificate - though the doubt is entirely manufactured - is there really any compelling reason not to allow somebody born outside of the US to run for President?

Yes. It's called the "Constitution."

Become an American, and then propose an amendment to change it. There was talk of this when people thought that Arnold Schwarzenegger was going to be a good politician.

It's not like people are going to vote in a Chinese national as President.

I can't help but be amused by the racism in your statement. It's quite possible that a Chinese person, whether they immigrated or were natively born here, could be a beacon of American pride and values, or an anti-American dimwit like yourself.

[mudslag]

What's the difference anyway? Plenty of people who were born in America hate the country just as much as Obama does.

[Larry the Lobster]

This is sad. As a native Arizonan, I can tell you we all wish Arpaio would just keel over from pancreatic cancer or something.

What a despicable thing to say.

[margrave]

Aliens

[mudslag]

I dont know what's worse, the conspiracy that Obama isn't a citizen or the bigger conspiracy that the Right supports Obama as a citizen. Either way, many conspiracies bring out the retarded side of people.

[Hum]

Joe for President

[torrentthief]

1. obama will not allow anyone to physically see his original birth certificate.

2. the deputy attorney general is refusing to say whether it is his birth certificate.

3. the hospital name was not that name until years after obama was born.

4. "african american" was not used at that time "negro" was used.

5. the woman who signed the birth certificate said that the numbers on the birth certificate are forged, she is 95yrs old now.

6. obama has spent millions in court trying to stop states and counties from requiring him to authenticate his birth certificate.

7. the democratic party just weeks ago removed the requirement of being born in america to get the democratic nomination.

8. he took years to release his so-called birth certificate even though people had asked for it for ages.

9. his lawyer won't give his original birth certificate to arizona because he isn't the democratic nomination officially yet.

If you think all these are co-incidences then you are missing a few screws. Use logic not emotion and quit labelled anyone who disagrees with obama as racist as YOU are racist!

[Matthew_Thepc]

Not combined with the huge inconsistencies in the quality of the image in the areas that are layers.

Why? Because the person happens to be black? Is it also racist to accuse a CEO of not really having a degree? What if they're white?

The need to see racism in everything is what leads to more racism.

peoples 'need to see racism' in this issue is probably because, as far as I can remember, Obama is the first president to have a large group of people question his citizenship, and since he's also the first president to be African American, it brings up some questions. If Obama were white, I sincerely doubt there would be birthers, just because nobody would even think to check.

[chrisj1968]

1. obama will not allow anyone to physically see his original birth certificate.

2. the deputy attorney general is refusing to say whether it is his birth certificate.

3. the hospital name was not that name until years after obama was born.

4. "african american" was not used at that time "negro" was used.

5. the woman who signed the birth certificate said that the numbers on the birth certificate are forged, she is 95yrs old now.

6. obama has spent millions in court trying to stop states and counties from requiring him to authenticate his birth certificate.

7. the democratic party just weeks ago removed the requirement of being born in america to get the democratic nomination.

8. he took years to release his so-called birth certificate even though people had asked for it for ages.

9. his lawyer won't give his original birth certificate to arizona because he isn't the democratic nomination officially yet.

If you think all these are co-incidences then you are missing a few screws. Use logic not emotion and quit labelled anyone who disagrees with obama as racist as YOU are racist!

Not to mention that Democrats of this generation are so hard up for state handouts.Whatever happened to the old philosophy that people should work for their keep? amazing.

we are to reward the lazy with the blood, sweat and tears of those who work and earn. Besides, a philosophy of the spread of wealth is a pure indication of a socialist drive.

what do I mean more clearly? this woman thinks Obama's going to put gas in her car, pay for her mortgage http://www.washingto...e-any-time.html

And 7 obama lies in 2 minutes

[Noir Angel]

Before the industrial revolution it was common for communities to band together and help each other out. Now, capitalism seems to be turning people into selfish jackasses. You so much as talk about helping out a poor person in America these days and you get called a socialist and get accused of being evil and anti-american.

[mudslag]

1. obama will not allow anyone to physically see his original birth certificate.

2. the deputy attorney general is refusing to say whether it is his birth certificate.

3. the hospital name was not that name until years after obama was born.

4. "african american" was not used at that time "negro" was used.

5. the woman who signed the birth certificate said that the numbers on the birth certificate are forged, she is 95yrs old now.

6. obama has spent millions in court trying to stop states and counties from requiring him to authenticate his birth certificate.

7. the democratic party just weeks ago removed the requirement of being born in america to get the democratic nomination.

8. he took years to release his so-called birth certificate even though people had asked for it for ages.

9. his lawyer won't give his original birth certificate to arizona because he isn't the democratic nomination officially yet.

If you think all these are co-incidences then you are missing a few screws. Use logic not emotion and quit labelled anyone who disagrees with obama as racist as YOU are racist!

1. He doesn't need to, nor has any other POTUS before him needed to go through this ringer of a circus.

2. Who exactly? The Hawaiian attorney general has verified it, the one person who is tasked for that job.

3. From snopes, which has yet to be proven wrong..

"The former Kapi'olani Maternity Home became the Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital (where Barack Obama was born) in 1931, and it retained that appellation until 1971, when its name was shortened to Kapi'olani Hospital. The Kauikeolani Children's Hospital (where Barack Obama was <U>not</U> born) was a separate entity which merged with the Kapi'olani Hospital in 1978 to become the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children."

Moreover, a copy of a birth certificate issued to a child born in Honolulu one day after Barack Obama also shows "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" listed in the "Name of Hospital" field.

4. "African American" does not appear on the BC

5. First Iv heard of this and cant not find any info on it. At 95, most people at that age don't have the best judgement on something so old about such finite details. Specially concerning details of a BC that had no personal value to her at the time.

6. Maybe because others keep bringing up law suits which force Obama to send lawyers to court. Nothing has ever been proven to proceed further along.

7. False, it's a Constitutional requirement to qualify as POTUS. No one side can just say, we change who can be POTUS

8. Again, Obama meet the requirements and was verified through the appropriate means. No other POTUS has gone through this.

9. Again false information, it's not his lawyer but the Hawaiian attorney general who has stated they need to see the legal requirements to release said document.

Hawaii?s attorney general has apparently given a response, according to KTVK-TV:

The Hawaii attorney general?s office has reportedly told Bennett that there are steps he needs to take in order to confirm President Obama?s birth records.

Those steps include Bennett proving that he legitimately needs confirmation in order to update the records at his office.

Talk about total misinformation.

[Growled Member]

Wow, this again?

[Noir Angel]

The fact that this birth certificate crap won't go away highlights 3 things. How deluded a large segment of the right wing is, how desperate some people are to hate Obama, and how much racism is still part of right wing thinking.