svnO.o Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Seven large consumer electronics makers from Japan are developing a new microprocessor that will be able to compete against chips from Advanced Micro Devices or Intel Corp. The central processing unit (CPU) will be available for purchase starting from fiscal 2012. Initially the chip will be only found in consumer electronics. The processor is developed by the pool of companies, including Canon, Funjitsu, Hitachi, NEC, Panasonic, Renesas and Toshiba, according to Nikkei Business News cited by various media resources. The development is led by Hironori Kasahara, a professor of computer science at Waseda University, who has also developed special software that controls power consumption of microprocessors in accordance with actual load and amount of data that needs to be processed. The prototype processor, which yet has to be named, is expected to consume 70% less energy than typical once, according to Forbes. Low power consumption will allow the chip to work even when there is no sufficient amount of energy available during natural disasters. Obviously, the new chip will not be compatible with x86 instruction set as well as the vast majority of software on the market. As a result, the only market for the processor will be proprietary consumer electronics, including HDTVs, Blu-ray disc players and so on. Therefore, it cannot be said that the processors will compete against AMD and Intel directly, but may rather represent a threat to ?x86 everywhere? strategy of the two U.S.-based companies. The microprocessor project is supported by the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, with an initial capital of ?3 ? ?4 billion ($32.5 million ? $43.3 million). Full article: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2..._and_Intel.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 They will never provide a real threat to the X86 or X86_64 markets because they are too deeply ingrained into modern computing. To me, with the manufacturing might behind this product I would have thought they would have actually came up with a more impressive idea than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Ohhhh like the so powerfull Chinese Loongson/Dragon chips... Intel / AMD don't have to fear anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted September 8, 2009 MVC Share Posted September 8, 2009 until QA goes down the crapper and we start having Buggy CPU's from these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaAddict Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Keep in mind they are only focusing on using these CPUs for their own commercial and consumer hardware products which all those companies in the consortium are very diversified in. So, don't expect those CPUs to come to computers anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perochan Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 interesting. more competition is always better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionVoltss Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I think that as Linux etc become more common and were adapted or developed around new technologies like processers there could better support it, where as windows 7 is already tied with intel it would be harder to develop new compatibility with chip makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralDogma Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Obviously, the new chip will not be compatible with x86 instruction set as well as the vast majority of software on the market. As a result, the only market for the processor will be proprietary consumer electronics, including HDTVs, Blu-ray disc players and so on. Therefore, it cannot be said that the processors will compete against AMD and Intel directly, but may rather represent a threat to ?x86 everywhere? strategy of the two U.S.-based companies. If they're not x86, they're not competing with Intel/AMD. Sounds like their aiming to take on ARM, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 More innovation. Lower prices for the consumer. These are good things for everyone. However, it will no doubt hurt USA x86 market which has been one of the bread and butter markets here. 'Buy Intel or AMD because it is the patriotic thing to do!' is what we will be hearing next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grik Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Fantastic news for us, higher standarts push others to deliver better and cheaper. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Fantastic news for us, higher standarts push others to deliver better and cheaper.Thanks Don't get all excited, it's at best a new CPU for your Toaster / Blu-Ray / TV / Tivo player... I don't think it's going to replace your Wintel/AMD CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azusa Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 screw that i just want Toyota to make hard drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Reid Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 More innovation. Lower prices for the consumer. These are good things for everyone. However, it will no doubt hurt USA x86 market which has been one of the bread and butter markets here.'Buy Intel or AMD because it is the patriotic thing to do!' is what we will be hearing next. Did you read the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted September 9, 2009 Member Share Posted September 9, 2009 More competition is a good thing but they really have their work cut out for them if they hope to challenge the big boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grik Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 New OLED TV`s and other stuff will have better prices with this... so its a great thing for all. I support this group development, the labels also win cause they can develop way better things and lower prices than working by their own. I think the future is gonna be more like this than few big companies. The World and companies need to stick together more often not only in tech, in political or cultural subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Helix Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Besides Main Processors and Graphic chips what else does AMD make CPU's for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfrog Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 FTA: "the new chip will not be compatible with x86 instruction set" Nothing to see here, move along. /I hate sensationalist, false headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ba'al Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 New OLED TV`s and other stuff will have better prices with this... so its a great thing for all.I support this group development, the labels also win cause they can develop way better things and lower prices than working by their own. I think the future is gonna be more like this than few big companies. The World and companies need to stick together more often not only in tech, in political or cultural subjects. Yes, it's certainly a nice advancement even if it isn't competition for Amd/Intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 screw that i just want Toyota to make hard drives. :rofl: Even when your PC is shot to hell, the HDD just keeps going! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted September 9, 2009 MVC Share Posted September 9, 2009 FTA: "the new chip will not be compatible with x86 instruction set"Nothing to see here, move along. /I hate sensationalist, false headlines. Agreed. I opened the thread expecting some talk about how VIA has somehow gotten a partnership and would finally be able to gain some marketshare with their x86 chip and that would be a serious threat... Just another special purpose CPU. There are more of those than you can shake a stick at lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 What's wrong with ARM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 What's wrong with ARM? Or even, what's wrong with the Cell processor? Part of its design purpose was to be put into TV's etc as a general purpose processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Just another special purpose CPU. There are more of those than you can shake a stick at lol. It's all you're ever going to see though, because Intel will not license the x86 instruction set to anyone (they did once upon a time in a land far, far away though, which is how AMD and VIA can make them). What's wrong with ARM? You have to pay ARM money to use their cores. Does there have to be anything "wrong" with it though? More diversity and choice is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 10, 2009 It's a new specialised processor that isn't competing with Intel or AMD. So basically it's like every other specialised non x86 processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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