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Make your Vista's admin account acts like in XP, Always in full control
Tantawi
Post #1 Feb 11 2007, 02:26


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First let me start by saying that one of the main features of Windows Vista is the new user accounts security enhancements, but sometimes, defaults don't meet everyone's taste when it comes to how we deal with our PCs. I for one, always used full administrator accounts since I first knew what a Windows user account is, and never been hit by a virus/spyware/crap, using common sense and updated AV software, so I don't want to give permissions to myself or face strange error messages every time I do a simple task on my computer.

We know UAC feature in Windows Vista, and we all know how to disable it, this is not the purpose of this thread, because even after you disable UAC, you'll have other prompts about folder/file permissions errors sometimes (I faced it in strange, unexpected occasions, like deleting an empty folder for a program left by the uninstaller), or you'll need to right click and select "Run as Administrator" for most applications to work/install correctly.

That's because Microsoft made the administrators accounts (in local administrators group) run as standard users, unless we give permissions for every and each administrative tasks, with a little difference when UAC is turned on/off

Enough introductions, lets get our hands dirty:

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Remember that cute "Administrator" account you see when you login to safe mode in XP? That's the built-in administrator account that's installed by default, and disabled by default too, after a little digging-in I made this tutorial that'll let you enable and use this account in normal mode, and with a little other tweak, enjoying an XP-like administrator experience, while UAC is left ON (or off, it doesn't matter), but with no prompts or right clicks.

For Windows Vista Ultimate/Business/Enterprise:

1- Click Start, and type "secpol.msc" in the search area and click Enter. (
You may receive a prompt from UAC, approve/login and proceed)
2- In the left list, choose "Local Policies", then "Security Options"
3- Set "Accounts: Administrator account status" to Enabled.
4- Set "User Account Control: Admin Approval Mode for the Built-in Administrator account" to Disabled.

For Windows Vista Home Basic/Home Premium:

1- Click Start, and type "cmd" in the search area, right click on "Command Prompt" and select 'Run as Administrator".

2- In the command prompt type "net users Administrator /active:yes" (Note the capital "A" in Administrator) and press Enter, you will get a confirmation as "The command completed successfully".

3- Click Start, and type "regedit" in the search area and click Enter, navigate to: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
Double click on "FilterAdministratorToken" and set it to "0"

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Now log-off, and you'll see new account named "Administrator" is available, click on it to login.


Now you are the master of your domain! I recommend if you're going to use this method is to apply it as soon as you do a fresh install of Windows, so you can simply delete whatever administrator you've created in the setup process, and make this one the "real" administrator for your PC, also you can rename this new admin account or change its password like any other account from "User Accounts" in the Control Panel.

A last note/disclaimer:

Please note that disabling UAC and using the built in Adminstrator account will also disable IE7 "Protected Mode", fore more information and a work around please see this post.

Please apply this procedures only if you know what you're doing. Disabling security features in the operating system is not something recommended to the average Joe, and for sure I won't be held accountable for any damaging happens to your system or files resulting from running a full administrator account all the time.

Enjoy! smile.gif

Special thanks to:
- Farstrider
for providing the location of the relevant register keys that made applying this method to the home versions of Vista possible!.
- bradavon for his comment/solution of IE7 protected mode.


This post has been edited by Tantawi: May 12 2007, 00:30
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Post #2 Feb 11 2007, 02:34


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That's great smile.gif no more annoying messages
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thanx mate , been looking for this for so long
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Thanks man, nice thread! I'm glad that you figure this out.
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Thanks a lot, helped me lots =)
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Thanks so much for this! I actually reinstalled xp because of the way vista handled this, yes I hated it that much. Thanks again!
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the built in admin account, iirc, has some perms that your normal admins dont, but it also lacks some perms that your normal admins do. at least in XP it was like this....anyone confirm?
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excellent post. been looking for something like this for a long time

***** < five stars. great job.
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Quote - (Primexx @ Feb 11 2007, 13:18) [snapback]588312380[/snapback]
the built in admin account, iirc, has some perms that your normal admins dont, but it also lacks some perms that your normal admins do. at least in XP it was like this....anyone confirm?


By default the administrator account does not have permission to access the files of other users if the others users are configured to make their files private (I'm basing this on my domain controller setup but I believe its the same for local accounts)

But as an administrator, you can take ownership of the files and then change the permissions.

And of course if other users encrypt their files then the admin account can't access them.

Vista appears to be the same.
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Post #10 Feb 11 2007, 22:00


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Nice ! Thanks !
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Thanks for the info, glad someone figured it out and posted! thumbs_up.gif
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Post #12 Feb 12 2007, 16:01


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Vista Home Premium says it can't find "secpol.msc"
Now what??
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You can also use gpedit.msc

secpol.msc's items are a subset of gpedit.msc


You can also adjust the settings in the registry here:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System]

These are the main keys that affect UAC, equivalent to the secpol.msc
settings.

"ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin"
"ConsentPromptBehaviorUser"
"EnableInstallerDetection"
"EnableLUA"
"EnableSecureUIAPaths"
"EnableVirtualization"
"PromptOnSecureDesktop"
"ValidateAdminCodeSignatures"
"FilterAdministratorToken"


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Quote - (Farstrider @ Feb 12 2007, 18:16) [snapback]588314723[/snapback]
You can also use gpedit.msc

secpol.msc's items are a subset of gpedit.msc
You can also adjust the settings in the registry here:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\System]

These are the main keys that affect UAC, equivalent to the secpol.msc
settings.

"ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin"
"ConsentPromptBehaviorUser"
"EnableInstallerDetection"
"EnableLUA"
"EnableSecureUIAPaths"
"EnableVirtualization"
"PromptOnSecureDesktop"
"ValidateAdminCodeSignatures"
"FilterAdministratorToken"


maybe someone could post some reg tweaks for the above keys, so that we can just copy and paste them into notepad and save them as .reg files, would be very handy:)!
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