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[Dot Matrix]

I can't wait to give the beta a go. It's going to have a nice, real world test, when I throw it onto my laptop for use in school. Not everyone is going to like it, but I still have hopes it's going to work from what I've seen of the new leaks. It's come a long way since the DP, where I did have reservations myself.

[Cereal Bawks]

I don't have an issue with it. Some people are complaining that it covers their whole desktop. I'm not entirely sure what's so offensive about it. When I'm looking for something in the start menu, be it the old roll out or not, I'm focusing on it, not the desktop or it's dumb background picture.

[+Chris123NT]

Superluminal, on 30 January 2012 - 14:35, said:

I don't have an issue with it. Some people are complaining that it covers their whole desktop. I'm not entirely sure what's so offensive about it. When I'm looking for something in the start menu, be it the old roll out or not, I'm focusing on it, not the desktop or it's dumb background picture.

I like to watch videos/movies a lot and like them not to be covered up when I click the start button. There should at least be an option to make it where the start screen doesn't take up the whole screen, turn it into a metro style menu for all i care but give me my screen back.

[Cereal Bawks]

Makes sense. I'm on a dual monitor setup, so it never bothered me when I ran WDP for a while.

[+Chris123NT]

Superluminal, on 30 January 2012 - 15:04, said:

Makes sense. I'm on a dual monitor setup, so it never bothered me when I ran WDP for a while.

I have dual displays too, but i usually run my chat/twitter client on Monitor 2 so I can see them all the time.

[pack34]

Chris123NT, on 30 January 2012 - 14:58, said:

I like to watch videos/movies a lot and like them not to be covered up when I click the start button. There should at least be an option to make it where the start screen doesn't take up the whole screen, turn it into a metro style menu for all i care but give me my screen back.

Or the desktop could dim and blur (similar to when the UAC prompt comes up) and the tiles come in from the side, floating above the desktop.

[techguy77]

dhan, on 30 January 2012 - 09:04, said:

How about,
- New email messages
- Time/venue of next meeting
- Voicemail and/or missed calls
- Maps showing directions for customer site
- Engineering/enterprise software showing some relevant information but then switches to desktop UI for fully featured UI. (e.g. a collaborative CAD software showing updated designs from team members that allows you to resume your work)

Don't use words that you don't understand. Metro can be incredibly useful for all kinds of applications using enterprise. "Professionals" don't magically require complicated or full-featured UIs, they just need tools to get things done..and quickly.

People use Droid and iPhone 4 for all this and iPad 2, they are not going to bother with Windows 8 which wont even have Metro interface available at work (disabled). As I said Windows 8 is complete waste of time by MS. You think that most people would want to deal with Metro, hell no? They need to get work done in environment they are familiar with and MS does not understand this. Again, Microsoft didn't give a single demonstration of why Businesses should move to Windows 8. Honestly, i am not sure what's their Market Aim since Windows 7 users especially games don't have reasons to upgrade not to mention Businesses who just upgraded their systems and many of them refuses to go from Windows XP since it works for what they do. All this i said is backed with Market Share data where after so many years Windows 7 just took over by small margin. What Microsoft needs is incremental upgrade to Windows 7 with some basic UI changes (Ribbon interface is fine) since lot of people are familiar with same interface in Office with additional changes in Kernel and enhancements not visible to human eye instead of packing Windows 7 SP2 + Metro into new OS with full blown price. Give me a break... The reason i said they should stick with updated version of Windows 7 is because people are start to like it more and more and MS needs to create good Market Share instead of releasing something completely different ultimately shooting themselves in the foot. As far as Mobile, Tablet market goes, they need to separate that from Desktop and Servers. Metro makes sense on mobile phone as only way to communicate with End Use. Desktop, Servers, and Laptops do not need Metro because since we already have interface called Desktop which perfectly works for home and professional users. I don't want to mention that MS created Metro forgetting all unused space Desktop itself has. I don't want to sound harsh every time but MS has most terrible designers and they all need to be fired along with Steve Ballmer who is driving MS into Oblivion.

[djdanster]

MS should let the Windows 8 Metro interface go the way of longhorn...

It has 0 practicality in the workplace. It's inefficient, and is completely unfamiliar with to the classic Windows shell.

It's also plain stupid on desktops, even with a touchscreen...



OR MS could integrate the metro UI into the classic Windows environment deeper, such as an interactive background. Theres no debating that the taskbar is the easiest and most productive option currently shown!

BTW, I can't wait to see what MS has up their sleeves for the Consumer Preview, and they better pull off something good! I know the Developer Preview was basically an Alpha and not focussing on the UI, I'd be stupid to write it off at this stage!

[BajiRav]

techguy77, on 31 January 2012 - 23:32, said:

People use Droid and iPhone 4 for all this and iPad 2, they are not going to bother with Windows 8 which wont even have Metro interface available at work (disabled). As I said Windows 8 is complete waste of time by MS. You think that most people would want to deal with Metro, hell no? They need to get work done in environment they are familiar with and MS does not understand this. Again, Microsoft didn't give a single demonstration of why Businesses should move to Windows 8. Honestly, i am not sure what's their Market Aim since Windows 7 users especially games don't have reasons to upgrade not to mention Businesses who just upgraded their systems and many of them refuses to go from Windows XP since it works for what they do. All this i said is backed with Market Share data where after so many years Windows 7 just took over by small margin. What Microsoft needs is incremental upgrade to Windows 7 with some basic UI changes (Ribbon interface is fine) since lot of people are familiar with same interface in Office with additional changes in Kernel and enhancements not visible to human eye instead of packing Windows 7 SP2 + Metro into new OS with full blown price. Give me a break... The reason i said they should stick with updated version of Windows 7 is because people are start to like it more and more and MS needs to create good Market Share instead of releasing something completely different ultimately shooting themselves in the foot. As far as Mobile, Tablet market goes, they need to separate that from Desktop and Servers. Metro makes sense on mobile phone as only way to communicate with End Use. Desktop, Servers, and Laptops do not need Metro because since we already have interface called Desktop which perfectly works for home and professional users. I don't want to mention that MS created Metro forgetting all unused space Desktop itself has. I don't want to sound harsh every time but MS has most terrible designers and they all need to be fired along with Steve Ballmer who is driving MS into Oblivion.

I had a hard time grasping what you said there but isn't Win8 with disabled metro is basically "incremental update of Win7"? So MS has that market cornered. For enterprise market, MS doesn't really care 7 or 8 as long as they sign up for Windows (& office etc). Metro makes good sense for tablets and enterprise tablet market is still untapped even with noticeable inroads by iPad.
Your claim of firing designers responsible for metro is laughable as the UI has been praised even on Win8 (most objections are for desktop use but even critics agree that it makes sense for tablets). The business decision of integrating it all doesn't belong to the designers. What's the point of firing them?