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Hurray... Built in flash support in win8 release preview(rc).

Metro ie with flash coming soon.

http://winunleaked.tk/showthread.php?51-Windows-8-Release-Preview&p=2636&viewfull=1#post2636

Yuk! :/

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Yuk! :/

Why yuk? I code in JS/HTML5 as well and it's just awful. if this was supposed to be the future then god help us. Flash does quite a few things far far better than HTML ever will. Just look at the hardware acceleration. Browsers are crashing whole machines while new Flash is lean, super fast and supports real 3D through Stage3D APIs which is fantastic.

For example.. look at this site

http://www.deanwest.com/

You will never get that performance, smoothness and fluidity in UI in HTML5. The only thing you can do to get some performance boosts is to try to draw into canvas but then you get something even worse than Flash. You get zero accessibility and usability as everything basically becomes a huge image and you still won't get results like that site.

Flash moves web forward in terms of creativity and pushing boundaries forward, while HTML5 is catching up to some of the things and really a lot of that stuff is pretty basic. It's simple as that.

I don't hate HTML5 at all btw. I think it's great that elementary web is evolving and it's has tremendous benefits (especially for a bit more complex web apps) but I think that none of that stuff is really revolutionary in any way, especially when we consider that it's really trying to emulate what Flash has been doing for a long time and in many cases doing it poorly.

If you want to move web forward, we have to get rid of or replace Javascript because it's a patched up scripting language over the course of last 2 decades that requires ton of frameworks to compensate for tons of flaws it has.

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Why yuk? I code in JS/HTML5 as well and it's just awful. if this was supposed to be the future then god help us. Flash does quite a few things far far better than HTML ever will. Just look at the hardware acceleration. Browsers are crashing whole machines while new Flash is lean, super fast and supports real 3D through Stage3D APIs which is fantastic.

For example.. look at this site

http://www.deanwest.com/

You will never get that performance, smoothness and fluidity in UI in HTML5. The only thing you can do to get some performance boosts is to try to draw into canvas but then you get something even worse than Flash. You get zero accessibility and usability as everything basically becomes a huge image and you still won't get results like that site.

Flash moves web forward in terms of creativity and pushing boundaries forward, while HTML5 is catching up to some of the things and really a lot of that stuff is pretty basic. It's simple as that.

I don't hate HTML5 at all btw. I think it's great that elementary web is evolving and it's has tremendous benefits (especially for a bit more complex web apps) but I think that none of that stuff is really revolutionary in any way, especially when we consider that it's really trying to emulate what Flash has been doing for a long time and in many cases doing it poorly.

If you want to move web forward, we have to get rid of or replace Javascript because it's a patched up scripting language over the course of last 2 decades that requires ton of frameworks to compensate for tons of flaws it has.

Exactly. People think Flash is dead, just because Jobs said so. It's not. HTML5 is great for mobile devices, so we can enjoy nice animations and interactivity, but with all the power we have in our computers, Flash is not a problem. And I agree, integrating Flash into Windows is a fantastic idea. People won't have to think "OMG I need Flash to open this website, this sucks", those websites will just work.

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If Flash is built-in to Windows, will updates be handled through Windows Update instead of having to use a standalone updater?

It's more built into IE and not the OS itself, but yes, Windows Update should cover it.

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Exactly. People think Flash is dead, just because Jobs said so. It's not. HTML5 is great for mobile devices, so we can enjoy nice animations and interactivity, but with all the power we have in our computers, Flash is not a problem. And I agree, integrating Flash into Windows is a fantastic idea. People won't have to think "OMG I need Flash to open this website, this sucks", those websites will just work.

Uh I don't care what Jobs thought about it but my experience with Flash has only marginally improved over past few years and it is still the single most annoying plugin typically on web pages with more than one flash objects on them. I don't want Flash to consume all my CPU cycles just because I have a nicely speced PC.

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Uh I don't care what Jobs thought about it but my experience with Flash has only marginally improved over past few years and it is still the single most annoying plugin typically on web pages with more than one flash objects on them. I don't want Flash to consume all my CPU cycles just because I have a nicely speced PC.

I'd rather have flash then Java
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Image of the updated Music app in 8 from Paul Thurrot's blog, where he seeming has a Pre-RP build.

playonxbox.jpg;pv6ade5a6f79256d78

Looks nice, just hope it works well too. The App in the CP is just awful.

im interested to see the changes they made for the music app

the middle picture looks great

here is another one

pXvr1.jpg

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From WZOR: http://soft-forum.ws/threads/%D0%92%D0%9E%D0%A1%D0%AC%D0%9C%D0%9E%D0%99-%D0%A1%D0%90%D0%9C%D0%A3%D0%A0%D0%90%D0%99-%D0%A1%D0%A2%D0%98%D0%92%D0%90-%D0%91%D0%90%D0%9B%D0%9B%D0%9C%D0%95%D0%A0%D0%90-%D0%A4%D0%98%D0%9D%D0%90%D0%9B%D0%AC%D0%9D%D0%AB%D0%99-rtm-%D0%A0%D0%95%D0%9B%D0%98%D0%97-12-%D0%98%D0%AE%D0%9B%D0%AF-2012-%D0%93%D0%9E%D0%94%D0%90.31891/

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And so my friends, was exactly three years as a signed (Sign-OFF) final RTM build truly innovative operating system Microsoft Windows 7.

It would seem that only now, so we developed this system like Microsoft is ready to release a final version of its most risky in terms of the introduction of Microsoft Windows operating system 8.

In addition, to be released in autumn 2012 and a new version of office suite Microsoft Office programs 2012 v15, work on the new office "boils" in full:

15.0.3711.1000 17.01.2012

15.0.3815.1000 21.02.2012

15.0.3829.1000 07.03.2012

15.0.3914.1000 22.03.2012

15.0.3919.1002 25.03.2012

15.0.3919.1006 01.04.2012

15.0.3919.1011 09.04.2012

15.0.3919.1012 14.04.2012

15.0.3919.1013 23.04.2012

15.0.3919.1014 05.05.2012

15.0.4011.1000 17.04.2012

15.0.4018.1000 25.04.2012

15.0.4025.1000 30.04.2012

15.0.4102.1000 09.05.2012

15.0.4109.1000 16.05.2012

15.0.4116.1000 24.05.2012

15.0.4123.1000 28.05.2012 - actual build!

Home Start selling Microsoft Office 2012 is scheduled for November 30 this year.

At the same time work on the second Service Pack Service Pack 2 for Microsoft Windows 7 were virtually collapsed, and now abandoned all efforts to complete the work associated with the release of Microsoft Windows 8, and to our knowledge not wait for the resumption of work after assembling the final RTM release of Windows 8, the middle September.

However, Microsoft still plans to release Service Pack 2 for Microsoft Windows 7 in early 2013, probably in early March.

So what to work on deadlines Microsoft Windows 8?

June 1, 2012 ie, this Friday will be available for download the release candidate (RC) Microsoft Windows 8RC Build 8400.0.120518-1423.

As you can see the build was compiled on May 18, and on the same day at the main branch builds (winmain) went to the new building, to date, has raised seven new builds:

8418.0.120518-1230

8419.0.120521-1835

8420.0.120522-1844

8421.0.120523-1740

8422.0.120524-1848

8423.0.120525-1830

8424.0.120529-1855 - actual build!

kitchen so that Windows 8 is in full operation in full swing ...

As we have learned working on the final code of Windows 8 will be completed in July, and is likely to sign the final RTM build will be held until 21 July, the start of the process of signing will be given on July 12, the outcome of this process will be the appearance of the final RTM release of the client and server in Microsoft Windows eight.

Immediately after signing the final RTM release, Microsoft will give "golden distributions," ie, a major computer manufacturers OEM partners of Microsoft.

Since then, the appearance of possible leaks in the distribution network, but not before ...

The mobile part as well as all related services will be available in late August.

Home sales Microsoft Windows 8 is scheduled to begin Sept. 30 in mid-September, the stores will be new Tablet from Samsung and ASUS preinstalled with Microsoft Windows 8.

To our knowledge the first to show the device with the new system will be the company Lenovo.

We plan to further inform you on how to move things, but very likely we will not be able to provide near-final test build.

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