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[techguy77]

FMH, on 18 February 2012 - 09:03, said:

Correct.

Same thing was said about Ribbon interface, but Office 2007 beat Office 2003 in sales, and Office 2010 beat them both, by an even larger margin.

I never thought of Ribbon interface as being wrong. I thing it is cool and i am glad they are making Windows 8 Desktop using it. Metro Start Menu is replacemenet for classic Start menu and in its nature doesn't fit the rest of eco system. It would be like building Web page with one style and than user clicks something and system takes him to a page which is entirely complete visually mind transition where it feels so disconnected from previous screen and work flow user was in.

Windows 8 is going to be recorded in the books as example of what not to do when you are designing something. MS went against all UI principles. The bottom line, fugliest OS ever made in the history of Computing.

[Stoffel]

techguy77, on 18 February 2012 - 15:41, said:

I never thought of Ribbon interface as being wrong. I thing it is cool and i am glad they are making Windows 8 Desktop using it. Metro Start Menu is replacemenet for classic Start menu and in its nature doesn't fit the rest of eco system. It would be like building Web page with one style and than user clicks something and system takes him to a page which is entirely complete visually mind transition where it feels so disconnected from previous screen and work flow user was in.

Windows 8 is going to be recorded in the books as example of what not to do when you are designing something. MS went against all UI principles. The bottom line, fugliest OS ever made in the history of Computing.

How do you know for sure that MS is not going to give the desktop a style overhaul to match the new start screen?
Ms has been known for leaving the visuals out until the last moment.

[techguy77]

Stoffel, on 18 February 2012 - 16:09, said:

How do you know for sure that MS is not going to give the desktop a style overhaul to match the new start screen?
Ms has been known for leaving the visuals out until the last moment.

Maybe you are right, but somehow i don't see that happening. Consumer Preview will be the best indication of final release and perhaps i should wait until i pass final judgement on it. If they change Desktop style to match Metro Start Menu Style well good job.

[SharpGreen]

techguy77, on 15 February 2012 - 17:11, said:

So what happens if Windows 8 sale fails like Windows Vista? Are they going to still push Metro or completely scratch idea cause i know that Windows 8 sale is going to be terrible.

There is no possible way you can "know" any thing of that sort. Unless you have a time machine you're not telling us about.

_Heracles, on 15 February 2012 - 23:53, said:

OP's concepts look very bland and poor. They look old / MAC-ish and probably would be painful to use in the long run.

In the long run, getting rid of glass and having the classic desktop be more-so merged with METRO is a good idea (if it works ergonomically - Windows is not Ubuntu - Windows must make RATIONAL GUI choices which benefit people). Lets wait for Windows 9 for that.
Windows 8 signifies the transition of the GUI IMO.

If you get rid of the classic aero desktop, you will end up having alienated a bunch of users who are used to it. Besides the Classic Desktop in Windows 8 look more Windows 8-ish and generally BETTER.

it is for backwards compatibility.
And so thatdweebs would stop screaming that they hate the new interface.

You know if you switch to the Windows basic theme in the DP it meshes A LOT better with the metro vibe that MS is going for in Win 8.

neoraptor, on 15 February 2012 - 12:56, said:

metro interface is good for tablets/phones etc (since you usually do a single thing there) but is not good enough for full desktop environment. IMO they should've separated the two products. I don't plan running windows8 on anything with touchscreen therefor metro is useless for me.

Works equally well on desktop machine too that lacks a touchscreen. You know since you're only ever directly using one app at a time anyway. You may have 100's open but you're not using them all simultaneously, thereby making this 1 app at a time limitation-that-really-isn't-a-limitation of metro irrelevant.

techguy77, on 18 February 2012 - 15:41, said:

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Windows 8 is going to be recorded in the books as example of what not to do when you are designing something. MS went against all UI principles. The bottom line, fugliest OS ever made in the history of Computing.

I think you're confused with either Ubuntu's Unity crap, or any Mac ever made. But certainly not Win8.

[smooth3006]

Xilo, on 14 February 2012 - 20:49, said:

Metro needs to gtfo of Windows.

+1

[FMH]

Update to the original post.

It looks like we would have Metro on the desktop after all. The technical preview of Office 15 has no Aero. So I now believe, that both the tablet and desktop interfaces would have Metro.

Good news!

[Alladaskill17]

Metro needs to less in windows 8, who cares if Aero is 7 years old, it works! Metro can have the "start" tile/marketplace/free advertising space; but that should be where it ends. When you leave that tablet-like screen you should be back to a normal Windows desktop experience. Save the rest for mobile devices. If users really have that much issue using metro for mobile and Windows 7/8 for desktop then I really feel sorry for them. People (clearly) have been capable of understanding/using different/altered variants of OS's for years. It does not have to be so unified even though that is where they are going.

On the same note, I also use OS X as my main OS these days, and I can confidently say. iOS can GTFO my (mac) OS X just as quickly as metro can GTFO my Windows partitions.

[johnporter29]

I like this kinda look:
http://blog.gsmarena...ve-looked-like/

[+Elliott]

johnporter29, on 25 February 2012 - 16:55, said:

I like this kinda look:
http://blog.gsmarena...ve-looked-like/

This is almost exactly what the desktop version of Windows 8 should've looked like.

I honestly don't have a problem with the "Start screen" interface for tablets. It works well. But when you're using a keyboard and mouse, these full-screen apps with giant UI elements and low information density are ridiculous. A cursor and a finger are not the same.

[Hum]

Microsoft has made Windows very Metrosexual.

[FMH]

johnporter29, on 25 February 2012 - 16:55, said:

I like this kinda look:
http://blog.gsmarena...ve-looked-like/

Not bad at all. But it doesn't has the basic Metro elements. Such as in the back button arrow.

[DerekMorgan]

OP: Understand people resist change blah blah. +1



Win 9 will be soooo diff from 7 its not funny. 7 is great and functional but aestehtics and ui evolve with time. get over it people.

[FMH]

DerekMorgan, on 25 February 2012 - 17:39, said:

OP: Understand people resist change blah blah. +1

Exactly. Most people tend to show a lot of inertia to change. I clearly remember the launch of iPhone, and people's fascination with button keyboards. They were so against it, and now it's the Blackberry which is in serious trouble.

[+warwagon]

If Windows 8 turns out to be an an EPIC fail, to some Neowin members it will still be an EPIC success!

[remixedcat]

FMH, on 25 February 2012 - 17:28, said:

Not bad at all. But it doesn't has the basic Metro elements. Such as in the back button arrow.

OMG I want one in black!!!! That is awesome.