Buttus Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 well, it is a mobile OS in big part... who wants startup sound on their tablet or laptop? don't think there will be on default setting... can you imagine a startup sound every time you unlocked your tablet/phone/whatever device? yikes! (if it was only a reboot startup sound, how ofter do you reboot your phone or tablet? rarely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It's in beta... Sound scheme has historically been absent during the beta process... Final sounds for Win7 weren't added until post-RC if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 can you imagine a startup sound every time you unlocked your tablet/phone/whatever device? yikes! (if it was only a reboot startup sound, how ofter do you reboot your phone or tablet? rarely) My Windows Phone makes a sound every time I unlock it :laugh: It's just a subtle little click though and I quite like it. Having said that, I don't see the point of the Windows startup sound and certainly don't think it should be there for people with slow computers :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Farrukh Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Not everyone has modern hardware now do they? 5 year old here, and the circle under the fish only rotates only once. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Farrukh Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think they'll add one in the RC. Don't think they are gonna leave it altogether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted April 9, 2012 Veteran Share Posted April 9, 2012 5 year old here, and the circle under the fish only rotates only once. :p man, you type good for a 5 year old :shifty: Muhammad Farrukh, Raa, dafin0 and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Farrukh Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 man, you type good for a 5 year old :shifty: You get the point :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseAgent Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Not everyone has modern hardware now do they? No, but Windows 8 happens to boot up incredibly fast even on older hardware. And yes, the sound was removed for performance reasons. I think startup sounds are annoying, and it's not only Windows. It's kinda funny when a MacBook goes BOOOOOOONG when some of my friends turn it on in a discrete environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+devHead Subscriber² Posted April 11, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted April 11, 2012 I agree with most everyone; the startup sound was kind of stupid. I'm glad they made a separate checkbox for it in the Sounds schemes dialog even. I've always turned it off. On the other hand, I really hope they restore the ability to change your system fonts (Window titles, dialog box, icon font, etc.) I really can't understand why they'd remove that functionality completely, at least for desktop/laptop devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I agree with most everyone; the startup sound was kind of stupid. I'm glad they made a separate checkbox for it in the Sounds schemes dialog even. I've always turned it off. On the other hand, I really hope they restore the ability to change your system fonts (Window titles, dialog box, icon font, etc.) I really can't understand why they'd remove that functionality completely, at least for desktop/laptop devices. I agree, I don't like that I can't change the system fonts to what I want, like in Win7 and previous versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Just one question.... How come a little kb audio file impacts that dramatically the performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKay Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I just looked on System sounds, and there arent even options for "Logon" "Logout" anymore. It's a shame, I spent about 30 minutes tracking down some new sounds for my login/logout and discover I can't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Startup sounds are so Windows 3.1, they should have been gone long ago. I disable all system sounds myself, they are annoying. /tada.wav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Just one question.... How come a little kb audio file impacts that dramatically the performance? If the systems can boot in as little as 3sec then playing a 1.x sec sound is about 33% of boot time? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I disable system sounds - they are annoying and INTERFERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 i like it better this way (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandPC Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 If the systems can boot in as little as 3sec then playing a 1.x sec sound is about 33% of boot time? :/ The boot process doesn't come to a halt while the sound plays, the sound can easily continue to play while the system is booting. It's basically the processing time required to start and play the sound... which is effectively nothing at all on anything manufactured in the last ~15-20yrs. I can definitely say that removing bootup/shutdown/logon sounds has done nothing at all to improve the speed on Win7. Playing a couple second long audio clip just isn't remotely stressful enough on the hardware to have even the tiniest impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 The boot process doesn't come to a halt while the sound plays, the sound can easily continue to play while the system is booting. It's basically the processing time required to start and play the sound... which is effectively nothing at all on anything manufactured in the last ~15-20yrs. I can definitely say that removing bootup/shutdown/logon sounds has done nothing at all to improve the speed on Win7. Playing a couple second long audio clip just isn't remotely stressful enough on the hardware to have even the tiniest impact. It doesn't come to a halt but I think MS had blogged that at times the boot process is so fast that it needed to wait on the sound to finish playing (or something like that, obviously IIRC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1911 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 My machine boots to start screen in 5 seconds once past bios screen. I cannot compromise time over some tring tring sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Right, because on today's hardware a quick jingle is likely to have a severe impact on startup performance. Gimme a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Right, because on today's hardware a quick jingle is likely to have a severe impact on startup performance. Gimme a break. Every little bit counts. ;) And it is frankly unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Every little bit counts. ;) And it is frankly unnecessary. You should have quick jingle in (U)EFI Mac-style meaning your hardware is "OK", like some other manufacturers already do. After that it isn't really required for a second one from Windows. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Right, because on today's hardware a quick jingle is likely to have a severe impact on startup performance. Gimme a break. Nobody suggested the performance impact was "severe". But a startup jingle is unnecessary and impacts system performance, as the operating system has to initialise a hardware subsystem. There are other issues as well, like the speakers being too loud or booting up your computer in a quiet environment. And I don't know about anyone else but I find hearing the XP startup sound cringe-worthy. It would be nice if there was an option for those that want it, though it should be disabled by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharos Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Just one question.... How come a little kb audio file impacts that dramatically the performance? I think it has to do with initializing the audio driver... It probably takes 3 seconds at most, but they probably chose to initialize it after the system boots up.. Sooo, shaving off 3 seconds of boot time is actually very considerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Nobody suggested the performance impact was "severe". But a startup jingle is unnecessary and impacts system performance, as the operating system has to initialise a hardware subsystem. You have proof it impacts system performance in a truly noticeable way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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