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We get it. You're taking your lady friend (yes, we assume you're a dude, because we can picture your smug self-satisfaction and it has a beard and glasses) out to a nice dinner, and the service wasn't great.

Your server is a bit frazzled and said that it's a busy night. It happens, we all have our days.

But you, you leave a patronizing note "explaining" to the server that their job is to "attend" to customers like you and that a "little personal touch goes a long way." Then, you leave two Canadian pennies with the sign-off "Just My 2 Cents." Bravo, *******.

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Why is that a horrible note? I've worked in the customer service industry since I was 17, I will be 29 in August. The truth is, people these days are just flat out lazy, rude, and disrespectful and think that they are OWED a tip, for barely doing their job. My wife and I always leave 5 dollars minimum because we know what it's like, BUT there have been a few occasions where we have tipped the host instead of the server because the server was just plain bad. Never came to table to refill drinks, check on our food ... once incident, the server never came back, someone else delivered our food, my wife never even got hers, had to ask the hostess because we didn't even see our waitress ... where was she you ask, outside smoking ...

I do not think the person that wrote that note was "horrible" at all, if they service was THAT bad then yes, the note and "tip" was justified.

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To be honest I agree with the note writer. When a waitress makes a big deal about how she's swamped with customers it makes me feel like I'm burdening them by visiting their establishment. I come there to relax and pay them money for a service they are offering I don't want to feel like I'm not welcomed.

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LOL

I'm 100% with this guy (or girl). I really hate that tips are expected and I wish it would stop

Well, when you go out to eat in a service restaurant, they are expected, that's why they do those jobs ... and that's what they're there for, to wait on you and your family ... if you don't feel like tipping, go to Burger King or another drive through service. I hate when people come out to eat to a service establishment and don't think they're supposed to tip, especially if the server is doing a good job.

Well, when you go out to eat in a service restaurant, they are expected, that's why they do those jobs ... and that's what they're there for, to wait on you and your family ... if you don't feel like tipping, go to Burger King or another drive through service. I hate when people come out to eat to a service establishment and don't think they're supposed to tip, especially if the server is doing a good job.

It annoys me that restaurants don't pay the Waiters / Waitresses a fair wage because there is an expectation that their tips will cover the rest. A tip is supposed to be a bonus for good service not an extra tax you are obligated to pay regardless of the service.

I found it rude when my waiter gave me my change in small mounts last time I went for a meal. instead of 4 x ?1 coins and whatever else it was. I received 5p, 10p, 20p coins to make up this amount. She was clearly wanting it as a tip so I left her my coppers instead to make room for the coins she gave me. Next time I'll pay on my card!

I'd like to hear the server's story. What if they were short on staff? What if the server had to do double or triple the work load. Maybe the customer should write a note to the manager.

Doesn't matter the server's story. Whatever the reason; she shouldn't of said anything to the customer about her workload; it's not the customer's fault.

Well, when you go out to eat in a service restaurant, they are expected, that's why they do those jobs ... and that's what they're there for, to wait on you and your family ... if you don't feel like tipping, go to Burger King or another drive through service. I hate when people come out to eat to a service establishment and don't think they're supposed to tip, especially if the server is doing a good job.

My sister's bf makes close to $100k working at his restaurant (that's just serving wage + tips, not his portion of the profit etc), I think it's a little high for a server :/

^ No laws you must tip -- esp. when service is bad.

I never said it was a LAW, and I even said if they service was good ... BUT you're not a stupid person, if you go to a full service establishment, you know you're supposed to tip. If you know you're not going to tip, stay your ass at home, cook your own food and clean your own mess.

It annoys me that restaurants don't pay the Waiters / Waitresses a fair wage because there is an expectation that their tips will cover the rest. A tip is supposed to be a bonus for good service not an extra tax you are obligated to pay regardless of the service.

The restaurant is only supposed to lower the wage if they can prove there are enough in tips to ensure the waiter makes a legal wage. So lack of tips shouldn't penalize them excessively.

Well, when you go out to eat in a service restaurant, they are expected, that's why they do those jobs ... and that's what they're there for, to wait on you and your family ... if you don't feel like tipping, go to Burger King or another drive through service. I hate when people come out to eat to a service establishment and don't think they're supposed to tip, especially if the server is doing a good job.

No, the tip is a reward not an obligation...

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Doesn't matter the server's story. Whatever the reason; she shouldn't of said anything to the customer about her workload; it's not the customer's fault.

I totally agree, people don't come out to hear their servers problems. It's the servers job to SERVE the customers coming in.
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My uncle used to put a stack of quarters on the table and say, "That could be your tip. Every time

I'm unhappy, I'm taking back a quarter."

This was in the late 70's. An ass move? Maybe. But he got the point across... you're working for

me, not the other way around. In the case of that note, my uncle would have said he's not your

counselor and he's not getting paid to hear your problems; he's paying YOU to do your job.

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The restaurant is only supposed to lower the wage if they can prove there are enough in tips to ensure the waiter makes a legal wage. So lack of tips shouldn't penalize them excessively.

No, the tip is a reward not an obligation...

I didn't say it was an Obligation, it is a reward, especially if you're doing a good job. BUT some people just refuse to tip at all, even when the server IS doing their job well. And like I said before, if you know you're not going to tip at all, stay your ass out of a full service establishment.

The note says "Don't tell every customer". How does the note writer know that the server is telling every customer they are busy. And what if the establishment is really packed with people. Is it wrong for the server to say they are busy? I'm thinking the note writer was being an impatient a s s. I guess we will never know the exact details of what happened.

The restaurant is only supposed to lower the wage if they can prove there are enough in tips to ensure the waiter makes a legal wage. So lack of tips shouldn't penalize them excessively.

Restaurant's shouldn't be involving themselves in their employees tips at all. It is none of their business as far as I'm concerned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip

In the English language, tip may refer to:

  • (Worldwide): a gratuity (a voluntary additional payment made for services rendered)

More information on tip customs in different countries here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_%28gratuity%29

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Here in Costa Rica (central america) the tip is inside the bill already.

Even if the service is crap (like most of the time) there is a 10% for service, no matter what. Really crappy if you ask me.

When I went to the US (twice) the waitress really earned the tip, since they were paying attention to the customers.

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