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[eXtermia]

sialivi, on 21 June 2012 - 08:18, said:

Darren Brown (famous "mentalist" from tv-shows like Trick of the Mind) has made a few audiobooks about hypnotism and he makes it very clear that it's not real. Even though it's fake, there's still a fair amount of skill involved. The subjects are not stooges, but people who are tricked into thinking they really are hypnotised. Even before the "hypnotism", there's a rather involved process of picking suitable people from the audience, people who show signs of being susceptible to suggestion. He also went into some of the tricks he uses when putting them into the "trance", like altering the instructions he's giving the subject to match things he sees in their body language, for example: tricking them into tensing up, and then when he spots the person relaxing again telling the subject that their body suddenly feels lighter.

his and other "magicians" may not be real using thier tricks but hypnosis itself is. Just what they may be doing on stage may not be qualified actually as hypnosis

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

This isn't new, Fox News has been using mass suggestion for years.

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

sialivi, on 21 June 2012 - 08:18, said:

Darren Brown (famous "mentalist" from tv-shows like Trick of the Mind) has made a few audiobooks about hypnotism and he makes it very clear that it's not real. Even though it's fake, there's still a fair amount of skill involved. The subjects are not stooges, but people who are tricked into thinking they really are hypnotised. Even before the "hypnotism", there's a rather involved process of picking suitable people from the audience, people who show signs of being susceptible to suggestion. He also went into some of the tricks he uses when putting them into the "trance", like altering the instructions he's giving the subject to match things he sees in their body language, for example: tricking them into tensing up, and then when he spots the person relaxing again telling the subject that their body suddenly feels lighter.

Derren Brown not Darren

[Albert Bonici]

FloatingFatMan, on 21 June 2012 - 07:44, said:

No it isn't. There is no trance state involved, period. The mark is just persuaded to go along willingly and if they wanted, could just stop at any time and give the whole game away. Their belief in the whole nonsense generally means they go along with it, though. However, it's just a confidence trick that preys on the gullible.

Although it wasn't the program where I saw how it works, Penn and Teller also did a part on it in their Bullsh*t program, and they said exactly the same thing. These guys are stage magicians, they do hypnotism as part of their act; they know how it's done and they're well known for revealing such things to the public.

Yes, I read this abut PnT to be authentic where stage magic is concerned, you cant beat them, but I remember the show they did about global warming being fake and impossible bs, was exactly that, the denial of science. They are pro entertainers, not scientists, not even technicians, but they can be funny as f**k
Now, back to that power of suggestion debate lol....

[Albert Bonici]

PsYcHoKiLLa, on 21 June 2012 - 09:07, said:

This isn't new, Fox News has been using mass suggestion for years.

Unfortunately, Fox is not unique in this technique

[HawkMan]

FloatingFatMan, on 21 June 2012 - 07:44, said:

No it isn't. There is no trance state involved, period. The mark is just persuaded to go along willingly and if they wanted, could just stop at any time and give the whole game away. Their belief in the whole nonsense generally means they go along with it, though. However, it's just a confidence trick that preys on the gullible.

Although it wasn't the program where I saw how it works, Penn and Teller also did a part on it in their Bullsh*t program, and they said exactly the same thing. These guys are stage magicians, they do hypnotism as part of their act; they know how it's done and they're well known for revealing such things to the public.

except their belief in it makes them unable to get out of it, thus hypnotized.

[ahhell]

Ah. Good ol' silly Quebec.

[Hum]

FloatingFatMan, on 21 June 2012 - 06:00, said:

Seriously, how the hell do people still believe in this nonsense? Hypnotism isn't real, people.

Explain Edgar Cayce

[Growled]

And then you have people who remember past lives and kidnapping attempts by aliens under hypnotism.

[Hum]

^ You should try it.

[Detection]

I'm not convinced hypnotism is real either, and something a hypnotist on tv said once backed up my thoughts "You can only be hypnotised if you believe you can be"

In other words, if you are a sucker

[*RedBull*]

Start stripping off their clothes. If they don't snap out of it by the time their fully naked then what happens in Quebec says in Quebec.

[Growled]

If it is possible then I want a sex slave that will do anything and everything I say. I'll believe it then.

[+McCordRm]

Hypnosis is bull ****.

It's like women saying, "I'm drunk!" just so they have an "excuse" the next day for putting out.