Microsoft: Apple has it wrong, it's a PC+ era


Recommended Posts

MS trying to strike back!!! too bad MS is losing ground to Apple..

msftturner_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg

Microsoft's chief operating officer, Kevin Turner, took to the stage at the company's Worldwide Partner Conference earlier today to stir up the crowd and discuss Apple's idea of a post-PC era. "Apple makes great hardware," admitted Turner, "the reality is in the OS we see things differently." Turner went on to discuss the company's upcoming Mountain Lion operating system and some mixed press reaction to the future of OS X. "We believe that Apple has it wrong," says turner. "They've talked about it being the post-PC era, they talk about the tablet and PC being different, the reality in our world is that we think that's completely incorrect."

Turner then went on to describe this new era as a "PC+" period, one that Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates predicted back in 1999. "We actually believe Windows 8 is the new era for the PC plus," says Turner. "We believe with a single push of a button you can move seamlessly in and out of both worlds. We believe you can have touch, a pen, a mouse, and a keyboard." Turner also showed a brief slide of two quotes from former Apple CEO Steve Jobs and current CEO Tim Cook, both discussing the PC ecosystem. "The reimagined Windows is a game changer," says Turner, referring to the upcoming Windows 8 operating system. Whether or not Microsoft's approach to the increasing popularity of mobile and smartphone devices is the right one will play out over the course of 2013, but the company's executives are clearly bullish about Metro and willing to bet Microsoft's future on it.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/11/3151472/microsoft-kevin-turner-apple-wrong-pc-plus-era

23.2 million iPads sold since Oct 2011 vs...701 million desktops sold in the same period

Tablet != Desktop PC

Should Show MS that people aren't buying tablets like they are desktops, and should be solid enough proof to show that the two worlds don't need to merge.

  • Like 3

Too bad everyone wants them to just bring back the start menu, and roll over and die.

OTT and overly dramatic, having a start menu instead of a start screen isn't going to kill the desktop PC or Microsoft, keep touch ui where its supposed to be, on tablets.

  • Like 3

OTT and overly dramatic, having a start menu instead of a start screen isn't going to kill the desktop PC or Microsoft, keep touch ui where its supposed to be, on tablets.

But there's also no need for Microsct to dive the market further with multiple operating systems. It's one or the other.

I really hope the market doesn't shift towards tablets instead of desktops, they are overpriced and underpowered compared to desktop PCs.

So are notebooks and we've seen a shift towards them for a while now. Beyond that I honestly don't understand your reply:

A) Why do you care what others buy?

B) If you need a portable computer a desktop isn't an option.

  • Like 2

I think they both will coexist. Apple is more ahead on their view of the future, their present products are only concepts on Microsoft lab.

PC?s are almost the same, the Operating System MS Windows also almot the same. MS isnt looking well in the future they are sitting in a very good chair, its easy to continue making profit with MS products, but the market is shifting away from them and fast.

  • Like 1

iPad sale figures beg to differ. Anyway, I also remember this one:

I think I will discard that quote as necessary CEO chest thumping. He must have known where the market was going as OHA (or whatever that Android thing is called) was formed a few months earlier and then Apple couple with lackluster WinMo phones+marketshare. It's similar to many things that Steve Jobs said and then a few months/years later Apple would start selling products he said they will never make.

Although still makes for a good chuckle, I agree. :)

I really hope the market doesn't shift towards tablets instead of desktops, they are overpriced and underpowered compared to desktop PCs.

It has happened before with Laptops, it is happening now with Ultrabooks and it will continue to happen as newer form factors are "invented".

Why isn't touch allowed to augment the desktop?

Touch should be optional on desktop. I don't want my desktop to unnecessarily cost more because of touch hardware. As much as I like metro, I don't use much of it on my desktop PC.

How can anybody say MS is lacking direction or vision

For a lot of us it's pretty clear where MS is going with all their new releases.

You might not agree with the way they are going but saying they lack direction is just silly.

I can't wait for all the services and software to be completely intune with each other, it's going to be an exciting 12 months for MS

Because he doesn't see the point of having touch on a desktop, so it's stupid and there is no reason for it! :)

I think it augments the desktop quite nicely. Especially on AiOs and Transformers.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • I agree. I also think Phil stayed too long. They should definitely fire whoever thought all a console platform needed was Call of Duty, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout to survive. Asha and crew are still saying they need more Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. They simply don't get it.
    • Macbook Air is an appealing option, as are plethora of Windows devices with various different CPU's
    • Mozilla highlights Firefox Nova 2026 redesign and more upcoming features with new roadmap by Sayan Sen Last month Mozilla confirmed that Firefox was set to get a major redesign this year. Dubbed "Project Nova", it can already be tested and will roll out to all users later this year.The idea is to keep the browser competitive in a rapidly evolving internet landscape. As such the revamp focuses on improving privacy, usability, performance, accessibility, and customization. Key privacy features including the built-in VPN, private browsing mode, and Enhanced Tracking Protection, will be more visible and easier to manage, while users will have the option to disable AI features entirely through a dedicated kill switch. Additionally, the redesign promises faster page loading, the return of Compact mode, expanded personalization options, and stronger accessibility support. You can find the full details in the dedicated piece linked above. In a new blog post today the company once again reiterated on Nova and also emphasized other new and upcoming features like the settings revamp that is intended to make it easier for users to understand browser settings. In order to make it simpler for users to keep up with such features Mozilla today is launching Firefox roadmap. Hence enthusiasts and interested users will be able to check out what's cooking and also share feedback about the upcoming additions. Alongside the roadmap announcement, Mozilla also highlighted what's new in Firefox 152. One of the biggest additions is the arrival of Tab Groups on Android. The feature, which has already been helping desktop users organize large numbers of tabs, is now beginning to roll out on mobile. Users will be able to group related tabs together, assign names and colors to them, and return to them later. Mozilla says support for iOS will arrive later this year. Firefox 152 also introduces the aforementioned redesigned Settings experience. The company says the changes are meant to make controls easier to find and help users discover features they may not have previously known about. Existing preferences are not changing, though they are now better organized. Another notable addition is the new Blocked Tracker Widget, which provides a visual overview of Firefox's privacy protections by showing how many trackers have been blocked over time and the types of tracking activity the browser has stopped. Looking ahead, Mozilla revealed several upcoming roadmap features. They include customizable keyboard shortcuts, as well as enhanced PDF editing tools that will allow documents to be split, merged, and reorganized directly within Firefox. The company is also working on bringing Multi-Account Containers into the native Firefox experience thus removing the need for a separate extension. Meanwhile Firefox's built-in VPN is set to expand to mobile devices. Mozilla is also developing AI-powered features like Quick Answers, which can provide concise responses to voice queries, and Smart Window, its optional AI browsing experience that is now available without a waitlist. Finally, a new Power Saving Mode is in the works and will help reduce the impact of resource-heavy tabs on mobile devices in order to extend battery life. The video below summarizes the upcoming changes in an easy to understand format: You can find the announcement blog post here on Mozilla's official website.
    • Dead on arrival at that price. Like they missed the mark by multiple hundreds of dollars - this should actually undercut the Macbook Air at $899 if they want any sort of sales / further adoption of WoA
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Year In
      Console General earned a badge
      One Year In
    • One Year In
      Twozo Technologies earned a badge
      One Year In
    • One Month Later
      Twozo Technologies earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Twozo Technologies earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Veteran
      branfont went up a rank
      Veteran
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      511
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      199
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      109
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      89
    5. 5
      Nick H.
      71
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!