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[Javik]

ChrisJ1968, on 06 August 2012 - 00:37, said:

This bites. they only offer IE10 for windows 8? am i to understand that Win8 won't allow for other browsers? Sorry I'm not up on the latest but is this true?

No. IE10 will be released for Windows 7, and other browsers won't be allowed to access low level system API's in the RT version of Windows, they will only be allowed into the Windows 8 store if they run as fully RT code which means IE will have a significant advantage on the ARM version of Windows 8.

[+Brando212]

ChrisJ1968, on 06 August 2012 - 00:37, said:

This bites. they only offer IE10 for windows 8? am i to understand that Win8 won't allow for other browsers? Sorry I'm not up on the latest but is this true?

windows 8 can still run any browser. only on ARM machines will you be restricted to IE (unless MS eventually decides to allow other browsers in the market)

[ChrisJ1968]

Javik, on 06 August 2012 - 00:51, said:

No. IE10 will be released for Windows 7, and other browsers won't be allowed to access low level system API's in the RT version of Windows, they will only be allowed into the Windows 8 store if they run as fully RT code which means IE will have a significant advantage on the ARM version of Windows 8.

I appreciate that. If it works good and I like it, I'll definitely use it as my primary browser. I'm just surprised they haven't released a "public release" aside from Win8 public preview. but thank you

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Javik, on 06 August 2012 - 00:51, said:

No. IE10 will be released for Windows 7, and other browsers won't be allowed to access low level system API's in the RT version of Windows, they will only be allowed into the Windows 8 store if they run as fully RT code which means IE will have a significant advantage on the ARM version of Windows 8.

how much you wanna bet there will be a "Jailbreak" of sorts for Windows RT?

i personally wouldn't be surprised in the least

[ChrisJ1968]

sanke1, on 06 August 2012 - 01:10, said:

What has that got to do with this topic?

Anyway, cheers to whoever suggested the dev mode trick. I am forcing IE10 to run in IE9 mode and enter button now works to go to next line.

interesting.. I never knew that existed. did you have to add a /devmode to the command line or is that in the settings?

[Javik]

ChrisJ1968, on 06 August 2012 - 01:09, said:

I appreciate that. If it works good and I like it, I'll definitely use it as my primary browser. I'm just surprised they haven't released a "public release" aside from Win8 public preview. but thank you

My guess is that IE10 will be released for 7 at the same time that Windows 8 reaches general release. The improvements aren't as big as from IE8 to IE9 so I wouldn't call it a must have but in UI terms not much has changed so there won't be much for you to adapt to, just a few under the hood improvements mainly

Brando212, on 06 August 2012 - 01:11, said:

how much you wanna bet there will be a "Jailbreak" of sorts for Windows RT?

i personally wouldn't be surprised in the least

Oh I have no doubt people will try it, but unfortunately that will be of no value if the major browser vendors cease development on their browsers because of the restrictiveness of all of this.

Personally I have a feeling the antitrust folks may yet have something to say about it but yeah I'm sure people will try to hack them.

[Kaedrin]

ChrisJ1968, on 06 August 2012 - 01:15, said:

interesting.. I never knew that existed. did you have to add a /devmode to the command line or is that in the settings?

As I recall at one time it had to be enabled, but that was a very long time ago now I think. On at least IE9 and IE10 you just hit F12 or look under the Tools menu.

This is also what to use if you want to alter IE's user agent strings on the fly under the Developer Mode Tools menu.

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Javik, on 06 August 2012 - 01:18, said:

Oh I have no doubt people will try it, but unfortunately that will be of no value if the major browser vendors cease development on their browsers because of the restrictiveness of all of this.

Personally I have a feeling the antitrust folks may yet have something to say about it but yeah I'm sure people will try to hack them.

I doubt they'll cease development, they'll probably even release versions to the market eventually, and it's when that happens that a "Jailbreak" of sorts will come in handy.

i expect a tweak to eventually release similar to this tweak that just released recently for iOS http://www.iphonehac...party-apps.html

[Javik]

Brando212, on 06 August 2012 - 01:27, said:

I doubt they'll cease development, they'll probably even release versions to the market eventually, and it's when that happens that a "Jailbreak" of sorts will come in handy.

i expect a tweak to eventually release similar to this tweak that just released recently for iOS http://www.iphonehac...party-apps.html

I have a feeling that they will release neutered versions that comply with the RT guidelines just to get in the store. Which would mean there would be little advantage to a jailbreak. Of course that wouldn't stop developers trying to port the code themselves so you still have a good point

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[Matthew_Thepc]

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[BajiRav]

Brando212, on 06 August 2012 - 00:51, said:

windows 8 can still run any browser. only on ARM machines will you be restricted to IE (unless MS eventually decides to allow other browsers in the market)

Nothing stops Google from releasing Chrome-Metro in Windows RT as they have Chrome on iOS. They will need to use Trident instead of Webkit but that's pretty much what they did in iOS. Trident is equally faster for metro apps unlike iOS where the UIWebView component is gimped in favor of Safari (not sure if this changes in iOS6 though).

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BajiRav, on 07 August 2012 - 14:38, said:

Trident is equally faster for metro apps unlike iOS where the UIWebView component is gimped in favor of Safari (not sure if this changes in iOS6 though).

it's not in ios 6 afaik but just recently there was a jailbreak tweak that allows other apps besides just safari to use the nitro javascript engine now

[Jason Stillion]

Which Version, Metro IE, or Desktop IE?