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[Orange Battery]

I completely understand your reasons for not wanting to update but you must remember this is a Microsoft real time service and therefore they control what version you use.

You may prefer to use an old version which better suits your needs but that isn't going to happen. Most of the Neowin replies will make out your an idiot but then its very easy to insult rather than understand the opinions of others.

My best advise is to start looking for another service, if your opinion is valid then hopefully enough people will follow suit and another company that listens to its users more when it comes to this service will become the standard.

When MS or any other big company makes it mind up then it doesn't matter what its users think, the limited trials have already been done - but at the same time its a great opportunity for the competition to gain some ground.

[ArialBlue]

articuno1au, on 11 August 2012 - 16:02, said:

Skype runs happily on my Single core 1ghz Arm 7 based phone.

I think the 1.x ghz Intel Atoms (or equiv.) you are running can probably handle it..

They can. Without any problem.

StevenJ, on 11 August 2012 - 16:23, said:

Andrea clearly has some sort of psychiatric disorders; you can observe them to some degree through her YouTube rambles.

As frustrating as she may be, she is clearly not and cannot be made aware of her frustrating tendencies. That said, you have two options. One is to entertain it all, like the special kid in class, or to ignore her completely.

She is subscribed - that is why she is avoiding a permanent ban.
Either that, or like me, too many people enjoy her "charms" (that is making fun of the disordered).

[~Johnny]

FYI. visually WLE 2011 & WE 2012 are nearly exactly the same - there are no new UI additions, just improved features.

Other than the increased RAM footprint in basically every program over 2008, there's no reason to stick with 2008. 2012 has better performance thanks to Direct2D GPU acceleration, an improved feature set and much better security. Frankly, WLM doesn't look that different either.

If your netbook has 512MB - 1GB of RAM, I can understand avoiding the newer versions (and most certainly the newer versions of Skype too, which have become experts at hogging memory), but other than that, you'll grow to like them.

[Tha Bloo Monkee]

i started using pidgin recently for MSN/WLM cause the official client is way too bloated nowadays (with a-patch it's not so bad).

That interface is hideous in those screenshots!! ThaBlooMonkee.

[~Johnny]

FYI Andrea, the new Messenger (with a little bit of APatch) looks quite nice and minimal -




Or if you want a super minimal, good looking, and very RAM light client, look into Trillian. It's well worth using.

[Eddie7]

Just use Trillian.

[KRazpopov]

~Johnny, on 11 August 2012 - 18:59, said:

Or if you want a super minimal, good looking, and very RAM light client, look into Trillian. It's well worth using.

Actual quote from Borman:

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But Trillian I cannot figure out how to use it. And I don't think anybody else can. It is unusable. Andrea Borman.

[PmRd]

AndreaBorman, did you ever stop and think that the real problem is a couple inches from your computer monitor?

[+Yorak]

So all this complaining and you only have two other contacts on your list? That is really strange...just saying.

[Andrea Borman]

But the mandatory update is only being issued on Messenger.
Not on the other Windows Live Essentials.
Just Messenger.

So you can you can carry on using the Windows Live Photo Gallery 2009,Windows Live Mail 2009 and Windows Live Writer 2009. Or you can even use the Windows Live Photo Gallery2008,Windows Live Mail 2008, and Windows Live Writer 2008, without the Messenger. And all of them work. No problems.

Even with Windows Live Mail 2008 you can send and receive emails.

And you can also use Windows Live Messenger 2009 and earlier versions like 8.5 and MSN Messenger 7.5.If you set Windows Live Messenger 2009 in program compatibility mode for Windows XP. And Windows Live Messenger 8.5 and MSN Messenger 7.5 in program compatibility mode for Windows 2000.

But version 8.5 and 7.5 are no longer supported. And the webcam feature does not work,unless the person you are calling is also using the same version of Messenger.

And I suppose there is a risk of very old versions of Messenger not being secure. As they are no longer supported.

But I don't think there is any risk if using an older version of Windows Live Photo Gallery.So you would be all right using Windows Live Photo Gallery 2009. Or Even Windows Live Photo Gallery 2008,if you want to use it.

Windows Live Mail 2008,is probably okay, although you won't get any new updates. But then we don't get any updates for Outlook Express or Windows Mail either. Do we. Andrea Borman.

[+Mephistopheles]

Folks: stop replying to the OP. The less attention she gets the better.

[PmRd]

Mephistopheles, on 11 August 2012 - 19:35, said:

Folks: stop replying to the OP. The less attention she gets the better.

A better solution would be for MS to stop releasing new software.

[Andrea Borman]

PmRd, on 11 August 2012 - 19:46, said:

A better solution would be for MS to stop releasing new software.

Well it is the wrong timing. This month there have been hundreds of complaints from people about the mandatory July update. To the much hated WLE 2011 version. Now Microsoft go and make an even worse version WLE 2012.

Please tell me this is just a joke what Microsoft are doing. Releasing this WLE 2012 version. Andrea Borman.

[Ci7]

you make me wish if just Microsoft make new windows without BC to those stoneage stuffs

[+devHead]

AndreaBorman, on 11 August 2012 - 14:34, said:

I have just read on the Microsoft website that Windows Live Essentials 2012 has just been released by Microsoft.

This comes at a time when only a few weeks ago Microsoft issued a mandatory update in July.To all Windows Vista,Windows 7 and Windows 8 users.Who are still on Windows Live Essentials 2009 version to upgrade to WLE 2011 version. Which is much hated by many Windows users.

And as a result most Windows 7,Windows Vista and Windows 8 users,including me,have refused to upgrade to WLE 2011 version. And have successfully stayed on WLE 2009 version. And some people are using earlier versions of Windows Live Messenger. Windows Live Messenger 8.5 and MSN Messenger 7.5.

But now Microsoft have put out WLE 2012 version. And from the screenshots,it looks even worse than WLE 2011 version. It is more confusing and there is even more of the Ribbon than there was in WLE 2011 version.

And now when you go to the Microsoft website in Windows 7 or Windows 8,you get redirected to the WLE 2012 download page.

Windows Live Essentials 2012 is only for Windows 7 and Windows 8. So you won't have to worry about it if you are on Windows XP or Windows Vista.

And of course you can avoid upgrading to WLE 2012 just like you can WLE 2011.And stay on WLE 2009 version. Which I have done.

So will you install WLE 2012 or not?

Well as for me. I have never upgraded to WLE 2011 version and I have stayed with WLE 2009 version. So I am certainly not going to upgrade to WLE 2012 version. So I am not installing this WLE 2012 NO WAY. I am staying with WLE 2009 version. Andrea Borman.

Andrea Borman, you need to stop posting threads about how much you hate everything that's been released by Microsoft since the beginning of the 21st Century. If you don't want to install any of it and want your operating system to look like some puked up version of Windows XP or Windows 2000, that is your personal choice and you're free to do it. But no one else, save for perhaps a few other equally misguided individuals like yourself thinks these new programs and updates are bad the same way you do. I mean, look at how you have your UI looking. Do you really expect people to take you seriously? Notice the way the voting is going on your silly poll you have up there. Most do not share your opinion and hatred of these updated Microsoft products. That is all.