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#76 vetCalum

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:30

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(viewable outside AND works with gloves on :woot:)
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This is actually one of the biggest hardware selling points to me. I was regularly frustrated last year when walking or cycling to/from work and having to remove my gloves just to change the track I was listening to. Overall, the hardware looks fantastic.


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:30

No, as I explained in the rest of my post :)

In the meantime a lot of people will have bought the iPhone 5 or some other smartphone. They won't sit around waiting for a product they know next to nothing about. If Microsoft announced much more about Windows Phone 8 people could have actually said "Well that's something worth waiting for". Instead they still don't have a single clue about what exactly Windows Phone 8 will bring (beyond the new Start screen), September 12 will pass, iOS 6 has been fully demoed alongside the iPhone 5 and people will order that.

Remember, Nokia's popularity dwindled severely and there's no hype surrounding Windows Phone 8 whatsoever.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:37

In the meantime a lot of people will have bought the next iPhone or some other smartphone. They won't sit around waiting for a product they know next to nothing about.


That's not my problem ;) The new iPhone will probably be available from the 12th/13th so Apple have an advantage anyway but given the fact that WP8 phones are expected to be available from late October/early November it's obvious that you're not going to have to wait too long for MS's announcement. Perhaps they want to see what Apple push and then tailor their message accordingly.

Regardless, I'm not too concerned and I'd be very surprised if Apple announce anything vaguely interesting given their track record - maybe more faux-leather across the UI :laugh: Motorola won't produce any buzz because they consistently produce rubbish and Amazon will be focussing on tablets.

EDIT: I see you edited your post but I think we covered the same things.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:37

I think I preferred the physical design of the Lumia 800 over the Lumia 920. The matte plasticy-rubber appearance was more appealing to me than the metal look the 920 has. But having said that the phone does still look great just not as great. It's funny because it's obviously using better materials, metal is more desirable than plastic and yet for some reason I prefer the older design.

I really like that they've given it a touch screen that works with pens, gloves and fingernails. Definitely an improvement over past technology. I'm also really liking the built in wireless charging feature even though you need to buy a charger separately.

I know I've said this previously but gosh I really wish Nokia would have launched Android Lumia phones. I would have bought a Lumia 800 and probably upgraded to a Lumia 920 if it came with Android. No Android phone that I'm aware of comes with this new touch screen technology or built in wireless charging features and none of them look this good physically.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:41

I think I preferred the physical design of the Lumia 800 over the Lumia 920. The matte plasticy-rubber appearance was more appealing to me than the metal look the 920 has. But having said that the phone does still look great just not as great. It's funny because it's obviously using better materials, metal is more desirable than plastic and yet for some reason I prefer the older design.

I really like that they've given it a touch screen that works with pens, gloves and fingernails. Definitely an improvement over past technology. I'm also really liking the built in wireless charging feature even though you need to buy a charger separately.

I know I've said this previously but gosh I really wish Nokia would have launched Android Lumia phones. I would have bought a Lumia 800 and probably upgraded to a Lumia 920 if it came with Android. No Android phone that I'm aware of comes with this new touch screen technology or built in wireless charging features and none of them look this good physically.


The Lumia 920 has the same polycarbonate case as the 800. It's not made of metal and they specifically discounted the use of metal cases because of the negative impact that has on antenna performance.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:43

The Lumia 920 has the same polycarbonate case as the 800. It's not made of metal and they specifically discounted the use of metal cases because of the negative impact that has on antenna performance.


It looks metallic in pictures. My bad I guess.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:45

Well, that only took 6 pages to show up, you guys are slipping.

On topic, since this is again a Nokia event they wanted to tout the hardware, demoing the WP8 Lens feature fit because it highlighted a key area of the 920, the new camera.

As for showing more, they're going to have another event, it could be BUILD in October I'd say. Consumers have a short memory, mostly, what difference would it have made if they said you'll be able to buy these in say, mid-October if the iPHone 5 goes on sale next week anyways? Announcing the date isn't changing things unless you can put them on sale today, which they aren't. Those iPhone 5 sales will happen regardless.

You'll probably be able to pre-order these soon, you can do so for the Ativ S at a few places already so it shouldn't be any different.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:46

Damn, I am highly unimpressed by the 820. I Hope that HTC can bring something worthy to t-mobile. Also wtf with all the phones being >= 4.3" ??? My girlfriend does not want that big of a phone...

#84 Tom

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:46

GIVE ME A 920, NOW.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 15:49

That's not my problem ;)

Where did I even remotely imply it was?

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 16:10

Damn, I am highly unimpressed by the 820. I Hope that HTC can bring something worthy to t-mobile. Also wtf with all the phones being >= 4.3" ??? My girlfriend does not want that big of a phone...


Regardless of what your GF tells you, size does matter. :p


I kid.

I expect a 4" model, probably a 7xx or a tweaked 820 for the EU? I personally love and want the bigger screened 920.

More on the Nokia Lumia 920 Pureview Camera, Lens Stabilization:

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The Nokia Lumia 920 will have a 8.7megapixel Pureview Camera that is also fitted with floating lens technology. What is floating lens technology?

As Nokia's Kevin Shields mentioned in today's New York event, the key to taking good pictures is light. There are two basic ways to get more light with a camera. First, create a larger opening for light to pass through. The Nokia Lumia 920 will be fitted with a f2.0 aperture lens which allow more light to the camera sensor than the current Lumia Windows Phone models.

The second way to get more light is to leave the shutter open longer. To do this, you run the risk of camera motion blurring the subject. To help reduce this motion blur, the Lumia 920 will have image stabilization through floating lens technology. Essentially the lens housing will be suspended and stabilized by springs. It will keep the lens steady for low light pictures.

Here's a quick example that was given... the first taken with a competitor's smartphone.

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and the same shot taken with the Lumia 920 Pureview Camera.

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It may not be a 41 megapixel camera but the Lumia 920's camera is very impressive.

http://www.wpcentral...s-stabilization

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 16:26

A quick hands-on video at The Verge:

(Source: http://www.theverge....on-photos-video)

Looks very buttery smooth, as usual.

Also:

CEO Stephen Elop declined to give specific pricing or release dates, but he did say that Nokia would be entering "select markets" with "intense focus" in Q4 of 2012.

(Source: http://www.theverge....windows-phone-8)

At least we know that it's coming out somewhere sometime this year.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 16:31

Anything on Windows Phone 7.8?

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 16:32

Anything on Windows Phone 7.8?


Nope. Probably hear about that from Microsoft, when they decide to show off WP8.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 16:41

Where did I even remotely imply it was?


:) You didn't but I was inferring that it doesn't bother me and if it does prove to be a problem then it's one for Microsoft and Nokia to worry about.