53 replies to this topic 2 votes

[firey]

HawkMan, on 17 September 2012 - 07:23, said:

The difference is that when I used my win phone, sure it crashed and locked up, being a HTC piece of crap, but when it did the kernel detected it no rebooted the device. Android does to detect crashes and lock ups, leaving the phone frozen.

My phone (running JB) has locked up, and it reboots itself. However that has only happened once, the other times it's just app crashes to which JB allows me to close the app...

[+littleneutrino]

Growled, on 16 September 2012 - 21:10, said:

That or some of the customization that the manufactures do. Stock Android is not buggy.

Exactly this, i wish more people understood that Stock Android is very stable its Device manufacturers that are giving it a bad name.

[Redmak]

Never had any real problems with my Android phones. I do however immediately remove the manufacturers version of the OS and install a custom (usually a stable release) rom/kernel

[Detection]

Which devices have stock Android with 0 manufactures additions ?

The only time I've seen stock Android devices are from devs on XDA and they are far from stable too

[simplezz]

HawkMan, on 16 September 2012 - 21:32, said:

Android is pretty unstable and buggy. And even when it's an app that has an issue. The android core is poorly coded to handle a crash, and even a compel rely frozen core won't cause a reset, meaning it gets stuck frozen.

Rubbish. ICS and JB stock are very stable. I'm running ICS right now and it's very stable. I'm looking forward to getting JB for its butter smoothness too. In every comment you post regarding Android you say it's buggy, laggy, or unstable. I doubt you've even used a modern Android device.

To the OP. if your stock device isn't good enough, you could always install a rom from AOSP.

[~Johnny]

Detection, on 18 September 2012 - 12:26, said:

Which devices have stock Android with 0 manufactures additions ?

The only time I've seen stock Android devices are from devs on XDA and they are far from stable too

I'd assume only the Nexus devices (from reputable manufacturers at least).

[Praetor]

i've installed on my Samsung Ace CM9 and it become much more smoothed and stable (had GB 2.3.6); the problem is interfaces like Sense (HTC), TouchWiz (Samsung) and the likes, that consume lots of resources and are buggy like hell; i mean how Samsung could manufacture a phone (Ace) that has 256MB of RAM memory and filled with a ROM that, in idle was consuming almost 190MB? Stock Android (ICS and JB) are IMHO much better, graphicaly and performance wise.

Gonna install JB tonight (jellaxy).

Detection, on 18 September 2012 - 12:26, said:

Which devices have stock Android with 0 manufactures additions ?

The only time I've seen stock Android devices are from devs on XDA and they are far from stable too

Nexus devices. And the newer stocks ROMs are stable.

edit: eh RedMak is posting? long time no see..

[tsupersonic]

~Johnny, on 18 September 2012 - 12:31, said:

I'd assume only the Nexus devices (from reputable manufacturers at least).

Are there Nexus devices from un-reputable manufacturers?

So far, we have had HTC, Samsung, and Asus produce Nexus devices.

[HawkMan]

tsupersonic, on 18 September 2012 - 12:06, said:

Yeah, nice job on trolling. As a user of both Windows phone and Android, I have definitely had no problems on either. BTW, your WP device crashing has nothing to do with it being an HTC. WP doesn't allow much modification to the WP underlying architecture, in the sense that Android manufacturers can go wild on customization and putting on their own UI (ex: Sense, Touchwiz, Blur, etc.). I have never had the Android OS crash on me, I have had apps. force close, but from all the apps. that I have used, developers update very quickly (and yes, Android devs. are far more responsive than WP developers).

Errr, yes it did. no they have to follow a certain standard as far as components go. but the quality of manufacturing and the components still varies, and with HTC. it's pretty much lowest sorting cheapest prices, cheapest manufacture that counts.

if you think component quality and production quality matters for product quality and stability, you've got some things to learn.

simplezz, on 18 September 2012 - 12:29, said:

Rubbish. ICS and JB stock are very stable. I'm running ICS right now and it's very stable. I'm looking forward to getting JB for its butter smoothness too. In every comment you post regarding Android you say it's buggy, laggy, or unstable. I doubt you've even used a modern Android device.

To the OP. if your stock device isn't good enough, you could always install a rom from AOSP.

Sure I've not used a modern Android device. when I bought one two months ago, I decided to buy an old Droid 1

tsupersonic, on 18 September 2012 - 13:04, said:

Are there Nexus devices from un-reputable manufacturers?

So far, we have had HTC, Samsung, and Asus produce Nexus devices.

[PUC_Snakeman]

You should have thought of a better subject. "Is it just me" does not describe your topic.

[tsupersonic]

HawkMan, on 18 September 2012 - 21:58, said:

Errr, yes it did. no they have to follow a certain standard as far as components go. but the quality of manufacturing and the components still varies, and with HTC. it's pretty much lowest sorting cheapest prices, cheapest manufacture that counts.

if you think component quality and production quality matters for product quality and stability, you've got some things to learn.



Sure I've not used a modern Android device. when I bought one two months ago, I decided to buy an old Droid 1

Yeah, Windows Phone 7.x has a certain standard as far as components go - so that limits the platform to just those components. SO, you could've seen those crashes on ANY WP7 device, including say a Samsung Focus. The crashes themselves are NOT specific to HTC, as you indicated. I don't know about you, but I find HTC's build quality far better than a company like Samsung. There weren't many WP7 manufacturers - about 8, according to Wiki. Out of all the manufacturers, HTC and Nokia win in my book. You're talking about build quality, and then somehow you're correlating that to software crashes with an HTC device, which makes zero sense.

HTC is not an unreputable brand. What are you smoking?

[Open Minded]

Zappa859, on 16 September 2012 - 04:51, said:

I'm still using an old Samsung Captivate.

The stock OSs are really bad. Sadly my phone only runs Android 2.2.

I have the same phone as you (contract expired, might move from AT&T) and we do have stock 2.3. It's not an OTA, though- you have to do it from Kies. But you're running a custom ROM, so i guess that's a moot point.

[Eddie7]

Lol I told everyone I got this fixed a long time ago. It looked like it was only me.

Thanks anyways guys!

[+SharpGreen]

HawkMan, on 16 September 2012 - 21:32, said:

Android is pretty unstable and buggy. And even when it's an app that has an issue. The android core is poorly coded to handle a crash, and even a compel rely frozen core won't cause a reset, meaning it gets stuck frozen.

I don't know how you make such a statement unless you've used every Android device ever made. The 3 that I have, rarely if ever crash due to poorly written apps. In fact the only times I've ever seen any of them crash was when I tried running one of the early builds of Firefox for Android on my old droid, and even then it only reset due to a lack of memory.

[mrp04]

It's not just you. Android is an extremely buggy, very unoptimized OS. I am only currently using it since WP7 fell so far behind the competition. I'm switching to WP8 right when that comes out and hopefully they won't fall behind again. I was really happy to initially switch from Android to WP7 last year because WP7 never, ever crashes on me and runs pretty amazingly on such old, crappy hardware. But eventually the hardware that Android uses got so fast that even with the inefficiencies it's still faster, though the animations still suck.