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#31 +FiB3R


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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:58

There are so many great games available on the current gen consoles, and you can pick them up really cheap, second hand. (the games and the console itself).

There will be some classics on the WiiU in the future, I have no doubt in my mind about that (though they may be few and far between). If you can return it for a full refund, then I would consider that, but you can get a 360 so cheap these days, that I don't see any reason you couldn't have both.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:05

This thread is full of incorrect info.

The 360 has 256mb of memory for games. Wii U has 2gb of memory, 1gb is used by O.S, 1gb by games. The Wii U has a much newer gpu from 2008, the 360 came out in 2005. It supports shader model 4.0 so it supports lots of nice new effects that the 360/ps3 cannot do. The performance will be significantly better only game engine developers make full use of the new gpu. The cpu clock speed is a little lower than the 360 but apparently the cpu has opencl 1.1 support which means the gpu can do some of the cpu tasks extremely quickly. In other words the graphics will be far better on the wii u over the coming years than the 360 and ps3. Currently the graphics for most games are equal or slightly better. The 360 and ps3 had poor graphics when their games first came out not using all the cpu cores etc so things will get even better with the wii u.

The 360 has 512mb of ram.

Source: http://hardware.team...ecifications/p1

Out of that only 32 megs is used for the OS and the OS is not loaded at the time of the game is loaded. If you notice it will come up and get out of game when you press the Xbox button.

Wii has 2 Gigs of ram, but only 1 gig is for gaming, the other is for the OS and Shader Model 4.0 is used mainly in Direct3D which is a part of DirectX from Microsoft, and Nintendo's machine does not support Direct X, but only OpenGL 3.3, but yes there are more shader abilities compared to GameCube/Wii, I agree with that. However, it is still limited in speed and functionality.

I don't see third party developers really focused on the Wii U all that much, because there will be a big difference between OpenGL 3.3 and OpenGL 4.2 and Direct3D 11.1 alone and developers will have two platforms which is the PS4 and Xbox Next that are using a very similar CPU which is an AMD x86 chipset as well as graphics processors and also memory.

Here is a developer that has the latest info talking about the CPU on the Wii U.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 16:56

The problem with talking specs of the Wii/WiiU is that developers don't care.
Apart from a handful of games, either made by Nintendo themselves, or dancing, developers build for the 360/PS3 then port away.. so even if the WiiU had amazing hardware, no one is gonna take advantage of it.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:03

The problem with talking specs of the Wii/WiiU is that developers don't care.
Apart from a handful of games, either made by Nintendo themselves, or dancing, developers build for the 360/PS3 then port away.. so even if the WiiU had amazing hardware, no one is gonna take advantage of it.

Plenty of devs are building proper PC versions now, so although the games might be built around the 360/PS3s capabilities they can certainly be enhanced for the Wii U.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 17:59

If you can only own one console, no doubt the 360 is what I would say.
Here is why (and I own a WiiU now as well, and am so far really digging it).
I have 3 pretty simple reasons...
  • The 360 has a HUGE library of games to choose from.
  • For certain games on the WiiU, I think one really would have to pick up a Pro Controller to fully enjoy them. For example Call Of Duty Black Ops 2 & Assassins Creed 3. While you can no doubt play them using the WiiU tablet, a pro controller will make them more like their 360 & PS3 counterparts.
    So that is an extra $50 you'd have to spend on a controller.
  • No one is sure yet just how much 3rd party support the WiiU will wind up getting. I imagine it is going to be plenty, but it is also going to be a underpowered console once the new Xbox and PS4 or whatever they will be calling it come out.
Truth is the WiiU is for 3 types of people in my opinion.
  • Families that have already established themselves as a Wii family (And there are plenty out there)
  • People such as myself who are a bit older, but still consider gaming to be their main hobby, and luckily make a good living. So I can own all of the consoles and not have to even worry about the power of the WiiU, etc., I can just enjoy it for what it is
  • Die Hard Nintendo Fans
So I really do believe the 360 provides more solid gaming entertainment right out of the box.

Finally, I would personally recommend you do not pick up Kinect unless you like dancing games. All of the other implementations of it are either not that good (Star Wars & Fable) or only add to the gameplay experience, and do not necessarily enhance it (Madden & Mass Effect). Other than the dancing games, there are only a handful of good games that use Kinect, so I personally say spend the money you might have put towards Kinect towards other games.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:09

Xbox 360 has Halo 4.

#37 Lord Method Man

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:11

Better off getting a good gaming PC, consoles can't compete.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:20

Well if you are a PC gamer i would say the 360 might not be the best choice. I had two 360s and when the 2nd one did break i decided to sell it after repair. I really loved my original XBox and Halo/Halo 2 but the Halo serie got old and about everything else on 360 is avalaible on PC and i really really don't like GOW serie.

I think since you want something you and you other half will enjoy (cause alone you prefer PC) it's important to consider what he likes to play. PS3 has some really unique games like Little Big Planet, The Unfinished Swan and Journey. The Wii U will surely has unique titles too.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:24

Better off getting a good gaming PC, consoles can't compete.

PC's are great, yes, but as I'm finding out now, you can't play local multiplayer which is a bummer. Wii U's (and 360's and PS3's) are all great for local multiplayer which I am missing quite a lot on games like Black Ops 2 and others on PC. If you're looking to play with friends in one place then consoles are the way to go.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 18:56

Xbox 360 has Halo 4.

I thought he was looking for reasons why he should ditch the Wii U, not reasons he should avoid a 360.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 19:05

Better off getting a good gaming PC, consoles can't compete.

All of the current consoles cost less than you would spend on the GPU alone on a PC, that's ignoring all the platform exclusive titles that have never and will never be on PC.

PC gets ports from console versions of games that are very rarely optimised for PC with higher res textures, etc..

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 19:12

I've got an original Wii for Christmas.

Really like the Wii for playing with family/friends in person.

Xbox 360 is great for playing alone (or over Xbox Live).

What sort of games do you like? A lot of games are available on most platforms, but each platform has their own exclusives. I love all of the Halo games, so had to get an Xbox!

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 19:27

If you have the WiiU right now, I'd say stick with it. Against what Larry said above, playing with just the gamepad over the pro controller is plenty fine (I actually prefer it from my brief time), but that's not my reason.

1 - Something to keep in mind if you game with a friend / partner a lot: You'll probably enjoy local multiplayer a lot more with the Wii U - especially with the machines asynchronous multiplayer capabilities which others can't match, which almost seems tailor made for two people too enjoy. And then you can still match the normal multiplayer experiences of the other consoles.

2 - The Wii U is going to have continuous support going forward for the next few years, the 360 is probably going to walk off a cliff in the next 1-2.

3 - Most of the big multi-platform games will be making their way to the WiiU now (and combined with forward running support, it's a better option).

4 - I'm sure some people like the convenience of on-gamepad play, which again is daftly useful in a house with more than one person (in games that support it).

Realistically, the only reason to go with a 360 is if you really want to play it's back catalouge of titles. As a gaming mahcine, you'll probably get more out of the WiiU going forward, and only about 12-18 months going forward for the 360.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 21:29

I'm loving the GamePad on the Wii U. MiiVerse is pretty cool too.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 22:21

Hey guys :)

Thanks a ton for the advice. I appreciate everyone's opinion. I'm going to throw a few wrenches in these gears here though.

Did a bit more research and now I'm seriously having issues deciding. Here is where I'm at right now:

- Looking at some of the unique games for the Wii U has me curious.
- PS3 has a buttload of games I would love to play (mainly exclusives), however the other half probably won't like them. He's not a gamer really, so it may not appeal as much to him.
- We love dancing games and aside from the Wii/Wii U, the 360 is the next best option (I would put the 360 above the Wii/Wii U because I like Kinect better).
- The PS3 Move and Wii U both require a silly wand in your hand which really annoys me.
- I have a few family members that own PS3's.
- I love all of the things the 360 can do.

My head is going to explode Lol. I wish he had just bought the 360 like I wanted so I didn't have to dive so deeply into which flippin' console I want!