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Starting SpaceX thread 3 as thread 2 is past 15 pages and they're between launches..

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Awesome! That's like twice the size of current Dragon, right? Just build the 4000 ton Orion already! 20 booster rockets to orbit, then fire off the nukes and get to Mars in a week. How difficult can this be?

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Too early to come to any conclusions about changes to Dragon, but some of the speculation on the space sites is pretty radical, including incorporating the trunk in the main airframe.

Also;

SpaceX just picked up 2 US Govt. launches, beating out Orbital Sciences for both -

1) DISCOVR (Deep Space Climate Observatory in Nov. 2014. Falcon 9 v1.1

2) a Dept. of Defense Space Test Program payload in Sept. 2015. Falcon Heavy.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_12_05_2012_p0-524585.xml&p=1

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that's good, will give them more resources to work with.

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can't wait to see what the future holds for the folks at spacex

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A guy named Padrat who works for SpaceX reports there has been another Grasshopper (100 ft tall reusable booster testbed) hover test and that it was "impressive." Hopefully we'll see a video soon :)

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that would be nice. when is the next Dragon mission to the ISS Doc, I forgot?

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Next ISS flight is the end of Feb - beginning of March, delayed a by pending software upgrades to the ISS itself (main reason) and the now finished review of what made one of F9's engines fail during the last flight.

There is also the pending maiden flight of the greatly upgraded Falcon 9 v1.1 from Vandenberg AFB in California. It's much larger (227 feet tall vs. 156 for a 1.0 with a Dragon), has much more powerful engines, a new thrust structure (lighter) and 8 of the engines will be in an octagon + the center engine instead of the familiat 3x3 grid.

How much more powerful? The current v1.0 can send about 10 metric tons to LEO. The upgraded v1.1 will be able to send 16 tons (NASA number) to LEO, or 13.5 tons with up to 2 failed engines (SpaceX number.)

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Neo -

The next Dragon has arrived at the launch site :)

[img]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/537695_10152360964895131_383864606_n.jpg[/img]
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1301/01orbcomm/#.UORJyL-9LTo

[quote]SpaceX and Orbcomm Inc. have agreed to new contract terms for the launch of 18 data communications satellites beginning in mid-2013, according to a filing with a U.S. regulatory agency.

The $42.6 million contract covers the launch of 18 second-generation Orbcomm satellites on two Falcon 9 rockets between the second quarter of 2013 and the second quarter of 2014, Orbcomm wrote in a Dec. 27 filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

Orbcomm's second-generation, or OG2, satellites will improve the company's messaging service with faster transmission speeds and increased throughput. Sierra Nevada Corp. is building the satellites.

Eight OG2 satellites will launch on a Falcon 9 rocket in mid-2013. Another Falcon 9 launch in 2014 will launch the other 10 satellites.

Orbcomm's previous launch contract with SpaceX, signed in August 2009, provided for satellite launches on an enhanced version of the company's smaller Falcon 1 booster. SpaceX has since discontinued production of the Falcon 1 launcher.

With the future of the Falcon 1 in doubt, officials with both companies planned to move the Orbcomm OG2 satellites to a Falcon 9 booster. The firms reached a deal Dec. 21, according to the SEC filing.
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/space/os-nasa-commercial-crew-20130109,0,32311.story

[quote][b]SpaceX crew launch: Space X to launch humans into space in 2015[/b]

WASHINGTON

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http://losaltos.patch.com/articles/tesla-motors-ceo-to-speak-about-spacex-solar-city-cutting-edge-cars

[quote][b]Tesla Motors CEO To Speak About SpaceX, Solar City & Cutting-Edge Cars[/b]
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He'll also give his thoughts on the future of electric-powered autos and his vision for SpaceX, which includes a $36 billion space station on the surface of Mars.
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Siemens SpaceX ad (they use Siemens NX simulation & manufacturing s/w.)

If you look closely you'll see the skeleton of their 5 meter payload fairing with a tablet-holding guy in the foreground. There are also shots of their factory floor, inside Dragon and at their Kennedy Space Center integration hangar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1EJinxpx4Y

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NASA Administrator Charles Bolden visited SpaceX's pad at Vandenberg AFB today.

News from the event: Falcon 9 v1.1 maiden flight from Vandenberg is June 18, 2013, and we have pics of the SLC-4E hangar, pad & crawler plus a new graphic of the Falcon Heavy on the pad.

http://lompocrecord.com/mobile-touch-2/?disableTNStatsTracker=1&asset=e8181f8a-74e3-11e2-92ee-001a4bcf887a#e8181f8a-74e3-11e2-92ee-001a4bcf887a

Vandenberg AFB hangar (Falcon 9 v1.1 and Falcon Heavy)
[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/vhangar1.jpg[/img]

Pad & transporter/gantry images - some serious metal there
[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/vpad1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/vpad2.jpg[/img]

[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/vpad3.jpg[/img]

Flame trench & part of pad. Note the scale vs the people
[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/vpad4.jpg[/img]

CGI of same area - compare to Falcon Heavy graphic below for true scale
[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/vpad4b.jpg[/img]

The Beast - Falcon Heavy
[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/fhpad.jpg[/img]/

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SLC-4E on Feb 10, 2013

[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/vafb/SLC4E-feb2013-1800.jpg[/img]

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awesome awesome! and $36 billion city on Mars? man you could build a small Manhattan for that kind of money over there! Why does he need so much? he's the guy that told us a round trip to Mars should never cost more than half a bill!

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Infrastructure costs to build the thing, plus transportation costs over an extended period - not all at once.

The details on MCT should be forthcoming later this year, and my guess is that we'll see plans for some sort of in-space only Mars trandport vehicle much larger than Dragon, which sill just ferry people to it. Part of this is because a SpaceX'er defined MCT as "Mars Colony Transport."

Wouldn't be surprised go see plans for an upgraded Falcon Heavy - perhaps 80+ metric tons to orbit, and a formal announcemdnt of a new family of methane fueled engines. A big methane upper stage could give Falcon Heavy that margin.

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Working on having 3 SpaceX spaceports; KSC, Vandenberg AFB, and Brownsville, Texas. They've also expanded their engine line to make several hundred Merlin 1D / M1DVac rocket engines a year.

http://brownsvilleherald.com/news/valley/article_0231fd54-86dd-11e2-aad1-0019bb30f31a.html

[Quote][b]Legislation filed for SpaceX project at Boca Chica Beach[/b]

State Rep. Rene Oliveira filed legislation Wednesday aimed at furthering the SpaceX project at Boca Chica Beach near Brownsville, he said.

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From today's presentation:

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Whoa!! A new factory for larger than F9 (Falcon Heavy?) stage cores?

Sounds like the SpaceX BFR (big f'ing rocket, AKA Falcon X or XX) is on the way. BFR would supposedly have a core stage 7+ meters in diameter, far larger than the 3.66 meters of Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy. Far too large for long distance highway transport.

Mass to orbit estimates have run 140-200 metric tonnes. Saturn V did about 110 metric tonnes, the Shuttle could carry 25 MT and the Delta IV Heavy about 22 MT. Falcon Heavy is to do about 53 MT.

http://brownsvilleherald.com/news/local/article_7930c5e8-8868-11e2-9a4e-001a4bcf6878.html

[quote][b]SpaceX chief appears before House committee

[I]The next SpaceX launch site will not only be a place to launch rockets: The company would eventually want a site nearby to build them as well.[/i][/b]

Space Exploration Technologies founder and billionaire Elon Musk made the announcement Friday at a hearing before the Texas House of Representatives Appropriations Committee in Austin, where he explained to committee members what SpaceX, as his company is known, is all about.

[B]Musk said the company will continue to build its Falcon 9 rockets in California, but when it begins manufacturing rockets larger than the Falcon 9, they would be built at or near the launch site.[/b]

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Happy Birthday! (Y)

[Quote]SpaceX ?@SpaceX
SpaceX turns 11 years old today
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Update,

Not counting the F9 v1.1 shipped to McGregor, SpaceX has [b]several[/b] F9 v1.1 cores at Hawthorn (!) and the Merlin 1D production line is humming.

From Elon Musk,

[Quote]Testing separation of F9 rocket fairing (can hold a city bus) in world's largest vacuum chamber (Plum Brook Space Power Facility, with help from NASA's Glenn Research Center).[/quote]

And from [i][b]multiple[/b][/i] sources,

CASSIOPE; June from Vandenberg. Falcon 9 v1.1
SES-8: early July from KSC. Falcon 9 v1.1
Thaicom-6: late July from KSC. Falcon 9 v1.1

3 launches in less than 2 months!!

And....ORBCOMM OG-2 and Dragon CRS-3 are scheduled for later this year;

ORBCOMM OG-2 will be the simultaneous launch of 8 communications satellites.

Dragon CRS-3 also has several secondary satellites to release; CUNYSAT 1, Hermes 2, LMRSat, TechCube 1, All-Star-THEIA, FIREBIRD A, FIREBIRD B, and Ho

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[b]SpaceX's Merlin 1D Engine Achieves Flight Qualification[/b]

Hawthorne, CA
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So, the new F9 v1.1 octagonal + center engine arrangement has a name: Octaweb.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/8591558240/in/photostream

2 first & 2 second stages in the shot, plus what looks to be a thrust structure (jig?) in the vanc-left.

[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/f91.1/f9v1.1factory.jpg[/img]

[img]http://digitalvideo.8m.net/spacex/f91.1/f9v1.1factory1a.jpg[/img]

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Version 1.0 was the cargo ship flying goods to and from the ISS, returning to a water landing.

Dragon 2.0 will be able to fly people, land on the ground using propulsion, and be modifiable to do unmanned science missions to Mars and other bodies, landing propulsively.

Dragon 2.0 will have 8 SuperDraco thrusters arranged in 4 pairs in pods, with a cumulative thrust of over 120,000 lbf. Each pair member provides redundancy for its partner, and steering will be done using thrust differential - each SuperDraco being deeply throttleable.

Only 20% throttle will be required to land, 100% being for launch escape, so if one fails its paired partner can throttle up to make up the difference. Ignition is guaranteed because the fuel and oxidizer are hypergolic, they ignite on contact, and pumps aren't necessary as the fluid tanks are redundantly pressurized.

Video shows a Dragon 1.0 doing the propulsive landing bit, but 2.0 is to look significantly different.

[url]http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/28/17506890-spacex-dragon-20-looks-like-alien-spaceship-says-elon-musk?lite[/url]

[quote][b]SpaceX Dragon 2.0 looks like 'alien spaceship,' says Elon Musk[/b]

The next version of the Dragon spacecraft built by the private spaceflight company SpaceX will look like something truly out of this world, according to Elon Musk, the company's billionaire founder and CEO.

Musk detailed some of the high points of the firm's much-anticipated Dragon Version 2 to reporters Thursday during a briefing with NASA to celebrate the firm's second successful cargo mission to the International Space Station. SpaceX's unmanned Dragon capsule returned to Earth Tuesday with a successful splashdown in the Pacific Ocean.

But according to Musk, Dragon Version 2 landings won't be so

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