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#16 HawkMan

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 16:53

Demanding that they don't put back a feature that a lot of people clearly want judging by the sales of start menu replacements just to satisfy you, who is the clueless one here?


a few tens of thousands start menu replacements sold, millions of windows 8 sold... umm right.
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the start menu isn't coming back no need to worry or hope.

The whole reason MS implemented Win 8 Metro style is to cater to the growing number of attention deficit children and adults. Large pictures/tiles of your apps, some of them changing real time just to keep your attention on the screen.

When it comes to productivity and efficiency... Win 8 is a whole different story....


Err no, that's not at all why they introducde metro

as for prouctivity and efficiency, yes you re right. Win8 is a whole different story and far more efficient and productive to use than 7 thanks to Metro.


#17 Davo

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 16:55

Lets skin Windows XP again, thats working out great.


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#18 Euphoria

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 16:58

yep if they put it back in, it might look like an admission that there was a problem for the start screen for "Most" users.


What MS should asks themselves is "Why change something that works?"
I understand improving upon it, but the whole new Metro style was the stupidest decision that Balmer had to sign off on... and it will probably cost him his job.

They could have done a new Tablet OS from scratch and not put a new UI on an old code and call it Win 8 or RT.
As a result Win 8 has a huge chunky footprint, it's inefficient, and plain unproductive for professional use.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 17:01

What MS should asks themselves is "Why change something that works?"
I understand improving upon it, but the whole new Metro style was the stupidest decision that Balmer had to sign off on... and it will probably cost him his job.

They could have done a new Tablet OS from scratch and not put a new UI on an old code and call it Win 8 or RT.
As a result Win 8 has a huge chunky footprint, it's inefficient, and plain unproductive for professional use.


I wonder if someone who has seizures could get one if they got "The Seizure" virus which would open and close the home screen really fast?

#20 Stoffel

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 17:02

What MS should asks themselves is "Why change something that works?"
I understand improving upon it, but the whole new Metro style was the stupidest decision that Balmer had to sign off on... and it will probably cost him his job.

They could have done a new Tablet OS from scratch and not put a new UI on an old code and call it Win 8 or RT.
As a result Win 8 has a huge chunky footprint, it's inefficient, and plain unproductive for professional use.


Windows 8 is different and makes you rethink some of the things you are used to, but calling it unproductive for professional use is just silly
Once you get used to it, it's just as productive as Win7

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 17:04

What MS should asks themselves is "Why change something that works?"
I understand improving upon it, but the whole new Metro style was the stupidest decision that Balmer had to sign off on... and it will probably cost him his job.

They could have done a new Tablet OS from scratch and not put a new UI on an old code and call it Win 8 or RT.
As a result Win 8 has a huge chunky footprint, it's inefficient, and plain unproductive for professional use.

I'd be willing to bet that Metro was not Balmer's idea, nor did he have any input other than to say "Yea looks good. Do it". Also as someone who's actually used Win8 for real work for most of the last year I can say that once you get used to it, it's really no more or less productive than any previous windows. But no "Win8 sux" right? /s

#22 Euphoria

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 17:06

Err no, that's not at all why they introducde metro

I was being sarcastic, although there is some truth in it.

as for prouctivity and efficiency, yes you re right. Win8 is a whole different story and far more efficient and productive to use than 7 thanks to Metro.

I just signed off on purchasing 500 Win 7 desktop workstations, where I work.
We are skipping Win 8 upgrade for the simple reason of inefficiency and loss of productivity.

I am glad that there are brave and curious souls out there that are willing to work with anything new that's thrown at their plate.
Personally... actually by consensus, after using Win 8 for couple of months, we decided to stick with Win 7.
I work in the financial industry - R&D dept.

#23 Euphoria

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 17:17

I'd be willing to bet that Metro was not Balmer's idea, nor did he have any input other than to say "Yea looks good. Do it".


Exactly... as CEO of MS he assumes the responsibility of any major decision.
Chairmen and board members will look at him for answers... not the Director of Product Strategy and Software Dev.

#24 +warwagon

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 18:05

one of the things that drives me nuts about Windows 8 more than the lack of a start button is the lack of a "Computer" button. Yes, I know you can click the explore button and then click "computer" on the left, or you can right click the "Hidden" start button and choose computer, or you can just click start and search for it. I still miss an actual physical "Computer button"

The fact that you can search for it, but can only pin it to the start menu is retarded.

#25 greenwizard88

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 18:10

I was being sarcastic, although there is some truth in it.

I just signed off on purchasing 500 Win 7 desktop workstations, where I work.
We are skipping Win 8 upgrade for the simple reason of inefficiency and loss of productivity.

I am glad that there are brave and curious souls out there that are willing to work with anything new that's thrown at their plate.
Personally... actually by consensus, after using Win 8 for couple of months, we decided to stick with Win 7.
I work in the financial industry - R&D dept.

To be fair though, anyone in your position would buy 500 Windows 7 PC's. You can upgrade them later, if you want, and you don't have to worry about running into any show stopping bugs. A nice tidbit, but hardly relevant.

#26 seta-san

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 18:21

I was being sarcastic, although there is some truth in it.

I just signed off on purchasing 500 Win 7 desktop workstations, where I work.
We are skipping Win 8 upgrade for the simple reason of inefficiency and loss of productivity.

I am glad that there are brave and curious souls out there that are willing to work with anything new that's thrown at their plate.
Personally... actually by consensus, after using Win 8 for couple of months, we decided to stick with Win 7.
I work in the financial industry - R&D dept.


I hope they are good PCs. You probably just bought something that will have to last until they stop supporting it.

Windows 8 is different and makes you rethink some of the things you are used to, but calling it unproductive for professional use is just silly
Once you get used to it, it's just as productive as Win7


Microsoft needs to choose. Metro or desktop. Having those two paradigms at the same time doesn't work. and honestly it sucks when you have to fight against interface mechanisms intended for a touch screen when you only have a mouse or trackpad

#27 Kyang

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 18:26

one of the things that drives me nuts about Windows 8 more than the lack of a start button is the lack of a "Computer" button. Yes, I know you can click the explore button and then click "computer" on the left, or you can right click the "Hidden" start button and choose computer, or you can just click start and search for it. I still miss an actual physical "Computer button"

The fact that you can search for it, but can only pin it to the start menu is retarded.


That's not some new Windows 8 problem though is it? Windows 7 doesn't have a "Computer" button either, if I recall correctly.

#28 MorganX

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 18:57

That's not some new Windows 8 problem though is it? Windows 7 doesn't have a "Computer" button either, if I recall correctly.

It does, on the start menu. You can view it as a menu or link. Not the end of the world but for people who used the Start menu this way, they will find some of Windows 8 less efficient.

#29 Luc2k

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 19:48

I don't care if they're trying to take windows in a different direction, I want choice (choice=/=3rd party programs). No choice, no dice.

#30 +warwagon

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 20:03

Microsoft needs to choose. Metro or desktop. Having those two paradigms at the same time doesn't work. and honestly it sucks when you have to fight against interface mechanisms intended for a touch screen when you only have a mouse or trackpad


Well if you think desktop / metro is bad, just imagine straight metro on the desktop.

If the desktop really is a dying breed, then let it die with some dignity.



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