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#31 chrisj1968

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:16

actually he only admitted to doing this so he could wipe the slate clean and cycle again.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:28

I'd have to dope up and tweak my weak body to even be able to be normal if I were to compete with normal non doped athletes. so I got the reverse going on.


i also had to dope up myself to compete with professional athletes (and still that won't be enough :laugh:), never mind professional athletes that are the very elite in a single sports. :woot:

The problem is that today professional athletes are the "abnormal" ones, the 99% of the world population are the norm here, so when one of them does something illegal to get a leverage (even a small one, like getting 1 second faster) for you and me that isn't much since we are part of the 99%, but for a top athlete it can make a lot of difference.

So no, doping is cheating.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:49

a faster computer does make a difference. try going up against someone with an OCed top of the line i7 and nvidia GPU with your core 2 duo and intel GMA GPU....

are you gonna whine that nobody should be able to use a computer faster then yours?

Again you're wrong. Your comparison is like two athletes, one is 40 years old and the other is 20.

You can have a supercomputer against a Pentium 3. If you are a ratard you will still lose.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:26

They're just butthurt becuase they couldn't afford the good **** or they are just being anal. Like the people that are too dumb/poor to OC thier gaming PCs or they get ****ty systems that can't overclock and they get butthurt becuase they get pwnt in battlefield or whatever. Do you want OCing to be outlawed in LANs????


So you approve of lying and cheating to get what you want remixed?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:32

So you approve of lying and cheating to get what you want remixed?


doping is different. they're not cheating by killing the other cyclists or tripping them up or puncturing thier tires before a race like some girls will poke a hole in the condom to get prego to take advantage of the guy.

that is not the same.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:39

doping is different. they're not cheating by killing the other cyclists or tripping them up or puncturing thier tires before a race like some girls will poke a hole in the condom to get prego to take advantage of the guy.

that is not the same.


Sorry, but it is exactly the same. Cheating is cheating.

Are you suggesting that every cyclist that's ever raced in the The Tour have doped?
Or that the ones who didn't dope are losers for not doing so?

This is quite apart from the fact that he publicly lied to each and everyone of his supporters for years.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:45

Sorry, but it is exactly the same. Cheating is cheating.

Are you suggesting that every cyclist that's ever raced in the The Tour have doped?
Or that the ones who didn't dope are losers for not doing so?

This is quite apart from the fact that he publicly lied to each and everyone of his supporters for years.


some do some don't... what does that matter?

and really we make such a big deal about some athlete doping when there are people who do worse that don't get near as much hate sent thier way like the bank execs or the ceos of the chemical companies that pollute.

let the man go and stop going on about it all the time. I'm sure that anybody's fav sports star has doped in thier lives. how much longer do people have to make a big deal about it till he gets fed up and kills himself over all this crap

this is just like bullying and it's pathetic. he allready got punished enough. let it be and move on like adults.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:11

HE WOULDN'T BE BULLIED IF HE DIDN'T LIE, CHEAT, AND STEAL.

God forbid someone get what they deserve. All this "leave Armstrong alone" fan-worship is nonsense. I don't really care for people being slammed for no reason, but there's a very good reason for him to get all the crap he has coming.

He's an awful example of what an athlete or any decent person should be. You can't just say there are worse people in the world to just accept poor behavior.

If you want us to move on, quit defending him and let people get passed it. All you're doing right now is smacking a beehive wondering why the bees aren't calming down.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:15

some do some don't... what does that matter?

and really we make such a big deal about some athlete doping when there are people who do worse that don't get near as much hate sent thier way like the bank execs or the ceos of the chemical companies that pollute.

let the man go and stop going on about it all the time. I'm sure that anybody's fav sports star has doped in thier lives. how much longer do people have to make a big deal about it till he gets fed up and kills himself over all this crap

this is just like bullying and it's pathetic. he allready got punished enough. let it be and move on like adults.


What about the example that it shows to future athletes (kids)?

It's okay to cheat as long as:-
(a) You don't get caught.
(b) If you do get caught just keep denying it.

Fantastic.

What about workers being caught with a test, get off their backs too?
Same for drivers and everyone else. One in all in.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:46

let the man go and stop going on about it all the time. I'm sure that anybody's fav sports star has doped in thier lives. how much longer do people have to make a big deal about it till he gets fed up and kills himself over all this crap



Umm. Perhaps you should offer that advice to him. He is the one that went on Oprah and spilled his guts to get publicity and to solicit sympathy. It's not going to go away if he keeps drawing attention to it.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:54

I see where your coming from cat. I'm on your side in your corner. I may not fully agree with you but I support your position. I totally respect people who need dope to function normally. I've know many. That reason I support legalization. I don't do it though.

But consider this:

Do you remember Rocky VI? Ivan Drago doped up to CRUSH other boxers. There was rumor in the media about it. The Russians denied it. Rocky had a pretty good feeling and did his Rocky thing to win. Heart is what won it. When one dopes up to increase performance one loses heart.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:24

I see where your coming from cat. I'm on your side in your corner. I may not fully agree with you but I support your position. I totally respect people who need dope to function normally. I've know many. That reason I support legalization. I don't do it though.

But consider this:

Do you remember Rocky VI? Ivan Drago doped up to CRUSH other boxers. There was rumor in the media about it. The Russians denied it. Rocky had a pretty good feeling and did his Rocky thing to win. Heart is what won it. When one dopes up to increase performance one loses heart.

You do realize there is a difference between doping(using steroids to improve athletic performance) and dope(heroin, marajuanna, meth) right?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:33

let the man go and stop going on about it all the time. I'm sure that anybody's fav sports star has doped in thier lives. how much longer do people have to make a big deal about it till he gets fed up and kills himself over all this crap


Funny how quickly some people want to move on after being lied to for over a decade. That's the part that bothers me the most. The lies. And now we should be all, "oh poor poor Lance"?

Lance is a fraud and brought 100% of this "crap" on himself. If he wants to kill himself, so be it.

For some of us, integrity still matters.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:38

doping issues aside the reason he needs torched for all this in my opinion is the way he bullied threatened sued and flat out tried to ruin and destroy anyone and everyone who suggested this about him over the last 10 years...he deserves much worse than he will get unfortunately

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:06

You do realize there is a difference between doping(using steroids to improve athletic performance) and dope(heroin, marajuanna, meth) right?

You do realize I was generalizing to make a point right? I'm sure you're intelligent enough to understand