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#1 Lilrich

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 13:39

Hello All,

I have been shooting with my 18-55mm Stock Lens for a while now and want something new that will give me a greater range especially when outdoors.

I quite like taking pictures of wildlife, trees & landscapes so would like something that is a good all round bit of kit.

Recommendations are welcome, budget hasn't really been set but from looking around i think £400 is a good budget to set on this.

The body is a D3100.

Thanks
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#2 Draconian Guppy

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 16:11

Well, it's hard to have a "one to rule them all lens" however, but here are a couple I know (though haven't used, your best bet would be check review sites for each lens)

http://www.amazon.co...ords=nikon lens
http://www.amazon.co...ords=nikon lens
A wee bit out of your budget, but would cover a lot of range:
http://www.amazon.co...ords=nikon lens

http://www.amazon.co...rds=nikon 18-85

A cheaper version.
http://www.amazon.co...369238445&sr=8-
14&keywords=nikon+lens

http://www.amazon.co... lens zoom lens

this also cover a lot and I think will be your best bet in that budget for zoom lens (non prime):
http://www.amazon.co...s=nikon dx lens

You should check your exif data, see what focal length the majority of yours shots are within the kit lens range.

Landscapes are usually wide <35mm
Wildlife would probably be >35mm ( on your dx body)

I would personally buy cheap prime for the "wide"
http://www.amazon.co...ords=nikon 35mm

and moderate tele for wildlife
http://www.amazon.co...nikon 85mm 1.8g


Please note, your body doesn't have in built focus motor, therefor you need lens "AF-S" not Not "AF", they're usable, just won't autofocus.

#3 OP Lilrich

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 19:41

Hey Draconian Guppy,

Firstly thanks for the list of links, that is really alot to choose from...i have a look at the EXIF data of my photos and i shoot most of them are shot at 20-50mm i have the odd one that is really wide at 18mm but these are landscapes which i haven't done much of yet.

I have been getting a photography magazine of late which has some projects in for you to follow and some of them are macro related and i don't think that the lens i have is good enough for this at the moment.
I also like taking pictures outside as i said, water, landscapes, anything that catches my eye as i am out and about.

I really like your idea of getting a 35mm prime, possibly the Nikon AF-S DX 35mm f1.8G Lens and then shelling out for the zoom lens possibly the Nikon 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S i did look at the 85mm but i am not sure if the zoom would be enough, especially if i was going to shell out that much money would it be better to get a lens with more zoom length.

Richard

#4 Draconian Guppy

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:13

Remember on dx format you have a 1.5x crop, eg. your 35mm would be roughly 52.5, but it does work nice for a "walk around" lens. Also, 105 would be around 157mm, so that would turn into a moderate telephoto. But remember, for wildlife you should consider 200+ or greater.

#5 OP Lilrich

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:27

It is all getting a bit complicated now...i wonder if there is somewhere i could rent one of these (UK) lenses from for a weekend to see if i like it

#6 KingCracker

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:29

50mm f1.8 cheap and good lens. I use it more than any of my other lenses. Oh you have a nikon. BOOO lol.

#7 Draconian Guppy

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:45

It is all getting a bit complicated now...i wonder if there is somewhere i could rent one of these (UK) lenses from for a weekend to see if i like it


You could make a separate thread for that, I believe there's a lensrental equivalant for the uk

50mm f1.8 cheap and good lens. I use it more than any of my other lenses. Oh you have a nikon. BOOO lol.


The nifty fiftys are all around on all brands.

#8 OP Lilrich

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:47

You could make a separate thread for that, I believe there's a lensrental equivalant for the uk


The nifty fiftys are all around on all brands.


Yeah i did look into a "nifty fifty" and there is nothing wrong with a Nikon, much better than C....

#9 KingCracker

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:48

You could make a separate thread for that, I believe there's a lensrental equivalant for the uk


The nifty fiftys are all around on all brands.

Yeah but I don't know how much a value they are on Nikon because the Canon F1.8 is like 103 dollars on Amazon.

Yeah i did look into a "nifty fifty" and there is nothing wrong with a Nikon, much better than C....

Don't think so, there's a lot more aftermarket lenses for Canon than Nikon. And they are cheaper than Nikon lenses.

#10 OP Lilrich

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:51

Yeah but I don't know how much a value they are on Nikon because the Canon F1.8 is like 103 dollars on Amazon.

Don't think so, there's a lot more aftermarket lenses for Canon than Nikon. And they are cheaper than Nikon lenses.


They are cheaper for a reason ;)

#11 KingCracker

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:53

They are cheaper for a reason ;)

And what reason would that be because I get some good quality images out of third party lenses.

#12 OP Lilrich

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 20:54

And what reason would that be because I get some good quality images out of third party lenses.


It was a joke mate...

#13 Draconian Guppy

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 22:30

Yeah but I don't know how much a value they are on Nikon because the Canon F1.8 is like 103 dollars on Amazon.

Don't think so, there's a lot more aftermarket lenses for Canon than Nikon. And they are cheaper than Nikon lenses.


Yeah there's a lot for the Canikon duopoly. but im afraid, we'd lose to pentax :/ in sheer bulk of lenses.

Nikon 50mm
http://www.amazon.co...ords=nikon 50mm
$98 f1.8

http://www.amazon.co...ords=nikon 50mm
$216... f1.8 ( built in focus motor, which the above version lacks).
Then there are the sigma, tamron, samyan alternatives and don't even get me started on ai ai-s lens, which are compatible with most of nikon modern bodies, whereas in the modern canon bodies, only newer "ef" lens are available, else you risk breaking the mirror.

#14 OP Lilrich

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 07:23

I can't figure out if http://www.amazon.co...ron AF 18-200mm this has Auto Focus, the one you linked to had a motor in the description but i can't find that anywhere in the UK.

#15 justDima

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:59

I've just got a second hand 18-200mm VRII lens for my D200 and I love it.. it lacks sharpness at around 135mm but all around is pretty good. This was an upgrade to my 18-55 kit lens.. oh and the only other downside is that it has a slight zoom creep but I'd still recommend it for a walk-around lens :)

The next one I would suggest is a 50mm 1.8 like recommended above.. great lens... around £60 off ebay brand new.

I've attached a photo I've taken with 18-200mm @ 70mm f/5 :)

P.S. AF stands for Auto Focus ;) but Nikon has has a faster motor, so it's really quick at focusing and it's a lot better than the tamron. Look on ebay for second hand lenses.

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