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#121 JonnyLH

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:41

because they can extract any thought or information they want from your mind, whether or not they have your consent or willingness? huh ? isn't that the big operational pay off? to warrantless spy, and get away with abuses without detection? that is always the goal of these programs. also, I don't think anyone in government gives a rats ass about the economy, it doesn't effect defense or intelligence at all. in fact, their budgets just keep expanding regardless of ill effects on the economy.

What's the point of having a massive database of everyone's moods and thoughts? Is it going to secure national security or get rid of the deficit?




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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:41

just wait in a few years. you guys act like you have power, but you are both blind. you have no understanding of the US military industrial complex, either. you think you have privacy, you think you have civil rights, but you ain't got nothing, and the US government keeps edging out more and more, taking away more and more privileges, as technology allows.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:42

Wonder if this nut case realizes that if you were to record brainwaves they way he claims, you would have a bunch of useless information. Everyone has unique brainwaves as our brains program themselves in their own "programming language" which amounts to every brain having its own encryption. No two brains have the same brain waves and it takes a long time to be able to be able to be able to understand what a single brain is doing, let alone what all of them are doing.

 

because they can extract any thought or information they want from your mind, whether or not they have your consent or willingness? huh ? isn't that the big operational pay off? to warrantless spy, and get away with abuses without detection? that is always the goal of these programs. also, I don't think anyone in government gives a rats ass about the economy, it doesn't effect defense or intelligence at all. in fact, their budgets just keep expanding regardless of ill effects on the economy.

Except that science has already proven you can't. There are not enough computers on the planet to power the computations needed to decrypt everyone's brainwaves, let alone a few million. You are just making stuff up at this point and you don't even understand the basic science that disproves what you are claiming. Go back on your meds.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:43

And what's the point of that? There's not one. 

okay, then why is PRISM running? why does Russell Tice, NSA whistleblower, have a bunch of new media interviews, saying the Bush and Obama administration are spying on every single electronic communication and signal in America, right now? Not just metadata, but your actual phone calls, and Internet use, and what you do in your home likely. Russell Tice says he used this space capability to do the spying on Americans, and that means what you're doing in your home and backyard. watch the video on my website in the media section. he worked at NSA signals intelligence, and he's the likely author of the disclosure of this Remote Neural Monitoring technology. this is all done warrantlessly, outside of the courts, they only spy through the courts when they want to use the information as evidence. get it through your heads, there's nothing lawful about it, and the US government doesn't care.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:44

 

just wait in a few years. you guys act like you have power, but you are both blind. you have no understanding of the US military industrial complex, either. you think you have privacy, you think you have civil rights, but you ain't got nothing, and the US government keeps edging out more and more, taking away more and more privileges, as technology allows.

 

 

If they can do all this, then instead of taking years to "ruin" your life, why don't just reprogram you into a good little robot, hmm?

 

Because they can't, that's why.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:45

Wonder if this nut case realizes that if you were to record brainwaves they way he claims, you would have a bunch of useless information. Everyone has unique brainwaves as our brains program themselves in their own "programming language" which amounts to every brain having its own encryption. No two brains have the same brain waves and it takes a long time to be able to be able to be able to understand what a single brain is doing, let alone what all of them are doing.

 

Except that science has already proven you can't. There are not enough computers on the planet to power the computations needed to decrypt everyone's brainwaves, let alone a few million. You are just making stuff up at this point and you don't even understand the basic science that disproves what you are claiming. Go back on your meds.

 

Oh I dunno... He's providing plenty of entertainment on my slow work day. :p



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:46

okay, then why is PRISM running? why does Russell Tice, NSA whistleblower, have a bunch of new media interviews, saying the Bush and Obama administration are spying on every single electronic communication and signal in America, right now? Not just metadata, but your actual phone calls, and Internet use, and what you do in your home likely. Russell Tice says he used this space capability to do the spying on Americans, and that means what you're doing in your home and backyard. watch the video on my website in the media section. he worked at NSA signals intelligence, and he's the likely author of the disclosure of this Remote Neural Monitoring technology. this is all done warrantless, outside of the courts, they only spy through the courts when they want to use the information as evidence. get it through your heads, there's nothing lawful about it, and the US government doesn't care.

 

Why do they need PRISM, if they can read everyone's mind?

 

Didn't think of that one, did you? :rofl:



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:47

you guys ain't got anything to refute Remote Neural Monitoring, the information is public, and it was written and publiced in the Chronicle Article. there are patents, there are tons of information out there about it. there are laws about it. you guys can pretty much keep saying what you want, but it's you who are clueless and ignorant.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:47

okay, then why is PRISM running? why does Russell Tice, NSA whistleblower, have a bunch of new media interviews, saying the Bush and Obama administration are spying on every single electronic communication and signal in America, right now? Not just metadata, but your actual phone calls, and Internet use, and what you do in your home likely. Russell Tice says he used this space capability to do the spying on Americans, and that means what you're doing in your home and backyard. watch the video on my website in the media section. he worked at NSA signals intelligence, and he's the likely author of the disclosure of this Remote Neural Monitoring technology. this is all done warrantless, outside of the courts, they only spy through the courts when they want to use the information as evidence. get it through your heads, there's nothing lawful about it, and the US government doesn't care.

Prism is running to capture and flag any communication which can be marked as a threat to national security, no matter how intrusive it is. Like said above, why have Prism if such technology existed? Why have a multi-day manhunt for the Boston Bombers if they could locate them with this uber mind reading technology? There's no logical reason to why or how this exists, you're literally rambling in a near mental way.

 

Claims of mind-reading technology on a national scale is ludicrous with you having no physical evidence of such technology existing. Also, don't link me to a wikipedia article about radio waves, that gives no weight to your argument.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:48

Why do they need PRISM, if they can read everyone's mind?

 

Didn't think of that one, did you? :rofl:

I have, I often say on my website that PRISM is nothing. they use that information when they want to gather evidence legally, only for use in the court system. everything else is done outside of the courts, including RNM, isn't that why I posted this here? my original post was about how PRISM was only the beginning. or did you skip the entire thread?



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:48

Why do they need PRISM, if they can read everyone's mind?

 

Didn't think of that one, did you? :rofl:

Why would you bring logic into this conversation? He clearly isn't using any so you using it doesn't make any sense.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:49

Why would you bring logic into this conversation? He clearly isn't using any so you using it doesn't make any sense.

 
For fun?  I'm curious how he's going to dodge that one. :p
 
Edit: Ah, here we go...
 

I have, I often say on my website that PRISM is nothing. they use that information when they want to gather evidence legally, only for use in the court system. everything else is done outside of the courts, including RNM, isn't that why I posted this here? my original post was about how PRISM was only the beginning. or did you skip the entire thread?


PRISM ain't legal, pal.  It directly contravenes the US constitution, so no law made to make it legal will stand.  As soon as someone brings it up in the US supreme court, the law "allowing" it will be thrown out.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:51

Oh I dunno... He's providing plenty of entertainment on my slow work day. :p

Ditto. I'm literally sat with a small bag of popcorn, reading this thread as it updates. It's quite magical.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:52

Apparently you think the US courts would allow Remote Neural Monitoring to operate legally. That is not something they can use as evidence in the courts, it is unconstitutional and violates peoples civil rights. This is why PRISM and other programs were run on the side, because those were supposed to be legal means to gather intelligence with court approval. Everyone else, is kept secret from the courts and public. Also, the crimes that have been done through the system in the past would get exposed. RNM is totally done under the table, warrantlessly, and it is classified/black ops. The US government, as in the court system, doesn't use it or authorize it. read the ****ing article again. anyone with half a brain is capable of understanding it. but of course, until a whistleblower comes along, no one is going to get any more information about this system.

 

 

 

Is the NSA Conducting Electronic Warfare On Americans?

Jonas Holmes May 19, 2006 CHRONICLE ARTICLE

Russ Tice, former NSA intelligence officer and current Whistleblower, was to testify before the Senate Armed Services Committee this week. Apparently the testimony, Mr. Tice wanted to give, makes General Hayden’s phone surveillance program look like very small potatoes. Mr. Tice’s testimony is expected to reveal further illegal activity overseen by General Michael Hayden which even loyal and patriotic NSA employees view as unlawful. I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. IT’S PRETTY HARD TO BELIEVE, Tice said. I hope that they’ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn’t exist right now. According to Mr. Tice, what has been disclosed so far is only the tip of the iceberg. What in the world could Russ Tice be talking about! To figure it out let us take a look at Russ Tice’s work at the NSA.

According to the Washington Times and numerous other sources, Mr. Tice worked on special access programs related to electronic intelligence gathering while working for the NSA and DIA, where he took part in space systems communications, non-communications signals, electronic warfare, satellite control, telemetry, sensors, and special capability systems. Special Access Programs or SAPs refer to Black Budgets or Black Operations. Black means that they are covert and hidden from everyone except the participants. Feasibly there would be no arena with a greater potential for abuse and misuse than Special Access Programs. Even now Congress and the Justice Department are being denied the ability to investigate these programs because they don’t have clearance. To put it in CNN’s Jack Cafferty’s words a top secret government agency, the NSA, the largest of its kind in the world, is denying oversight or investigation by the American people because investigators lack clearance. To add a layer of irony to the Black Ops cake this travesty is occurring in America, the supposed bastion of Freedom and Democracy, which we are currently trying to export to Iraq.

It just gets scarier. The Black Ops that Mr. Tice was involved in related to electronic intelligence gathering via space systems communications, non-communications signals, electronic warfare, satellite control, telemetry, sensors, and special capability systems. For greater insight as to the impact of these programs readers should review decades old FOIA authenticated programs such as MKULTRA, BLUEBIRD, COINTELPRO and ARTICHOKE. Radar based Telemetry involves the ability to see through walls without thermal imaging. Electronic Warfare is even scarier if we take a look at the science. NSA Signals Intelligence Use of EMF Brain Stimulation. NSA Signals Intelligence uses EMF Brain Stimulation for Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and Electronic Brain Link (EBL). EMF Brain Stimulation has been in development since the MKUltra program of the early 1950's, which included neurological research into "radiation" (non-ionizing EMF) and bioelectric research and development. The resulting secret technology is categorized at the National Security Archives as "Radiation Intelligence," defined as "information from unintentionally emanated electromagnetic waves in the environment, not including radioactivity or nuclear detonation." Signals Intelligence implemented and kept this technology secret in the same manner as other electronic warfare programs of the U.S. government. The NSA monitors available information about this technology and withholds scientific research from the public. There are also international intelligence agency agreements to keep this technology secret.

The NSA has proprietary electronic equipment that analyzes electrical activity in humans from a distance. NSA computer-generated brain mapping can continuously monitor all the electrical activity in the brain continuously. The NSA records and decodes individual brain maps (of hundreds of thousands of persons) for national security purposes. EMF Brain Stimulation is also secretly used by the military for Brain-to-computer link. (In military fighter aircraft, for example.) For electronic surveillance purposes electrical activity in the speech center of the brain can be translated into the subject's verbal thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the brain's auditory cortex thus allowing audio communication direct to the brain (bypassing the ears). NSA operatives can use this to covertly debilitate subjects by simulating auditory hallucinations characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia. Without any contact with the subject, Remote Neural Monitoring can map out electrical activity from the visual cortex of a subject's brain and show images from the subject's brain on a video monitor. NSA operatives see what the surveillance subject's eyes are seeing. Visual memory can also be seen. RNM can send images direct to the visual cortex. bypassing the eyes and optic nerves. NSA operatives can use this to surreptitiously put images in a surveillance subject's brain while they are in R.E.M. sleep for brain-programming purposes. Individual citizens occasionally targeted for surveillance by independently operating NSA personnel.

NSA personnel can control the lives of hundreds of thousands of individuals in the U.S. by using the NSA's domestic intelligence network and cover businesses. The operations independently run by them can sometimes go beyond the bounds of law. Long-term control and SABOTAGE OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF UNWITTING CITIZENS by NSA operatives is likely to happen. NSA Domint has the ability to covertly assassinate U.S. citizens or run covert psychological control operations to cause subjects to be diagnosed with ill mental health. National Security Agency Signals Intelligence Electronic Brain Link Technology NSA SigInt can remotely detect, identify and monitor a person's bioelectric fields. The NSA's Signals Intelligence has the proprietary ability to remotely and non-invasively monitor information in the human brain by digitally decoding the evoked potentials in the 30-50 hz,.5 milliwatt electro-magnetic emissions from the brain. Neuronal activity in the brain creates a shifting electrical pattern that has a shifting magnetic flux. This magnetic flux puts out a constant 30-50 hz, .5 milliwatt electromagnetic (EMF) wave. Contained in the electromagnetic emission from the brain are spikes and patterns called "evoked potentials." Every thought, reaction, motor command, auditory event, and visual image in the brain has a corresponding "evoked potential" or set of "evoked potentials." The EMF emission from the brain can be decoded into the current thoughts, images and sounds in the subject's brain. NSA SigInt uses EMF-transmitted Brain Stimulation as a communications system to transmit information (as well as nervous system messages) to intelligence agents and also to transmit to the brains of covert operations subjects (on a non-perceptible level). EMF Brain Stimulation works by sending a complexly coded and pulsed electromagnetic signal to trigger evoked potentials (events) in the brain, thereby forming sound and visual images in the brain's neural circuits. EMF Brain Stimulation can also change a person's brain-states and affect motor control. Two-way Electronic Brain-Link is done by remotely monitoring neural audio-visual information while transmitting sound to the auditory cortex (bypassing the ears) and transmitting faint images to the visual cortex (bypassing the optic nerves and eyes, the images appear as floating 2-D screens in the brain). Two-Way Electronic Brain Link has become the ultimate communications system for CIA/NSA personnel. Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM, remotely monitoring bioelectric information in the human brain) has become the ultimate surveillance system. It is used by a limited number of agents in the U.S. Intelligence Community. RNM requires decoding the resonance frequency of each specific brain area. That frequency is then modulated in order to impose information in that specific brain area. The frequency to which the various brain areas respond varies from 3 Hz to 50 Hz. Only NSA Signals Intelligence modulates signals in this frequency band.

  An example of EMF Brain Stimulation: Brain Area Bioelectric Resonance Frequency Information Induced Through Modulation Motor Control Cortex 10 Hz Motor Impulse Co-ordination Auditory Cortex 15 Hz Sound which bypasses the ears Visual Cortex 25 Hz Images in the brain, bypassing the eyes Somatosensory Cortex 09 Hz Phantom Touch Sense Thought Center 20 Hz Imposed Subconscious Thoughts

This modulated information can be put into the brain at varying intensities from subliminal to perceptible. Each person's brain has a unique set of bioelectric resonance/entrainment frequencies. Sending audio information to a person's brain at the frequency of another person's auditory cortex would result in that audio information not being perceived. Additionally, A 1994 congressional hearing reported that nearly half a million Americans were subjected to some kind of cold war era tests, often without being informed and without their consent. In addition, experimentation law is well grounded in constitutional and international law. It is an under-reported fact that two major reports on human rights and torture in the U.S. recently listed illegal radiation experiments. Many more facts are documented below. Therefore, human research subject protections should be a high priority and are just as significant as current issues of torture and illegal wiretapping. IT IS TIME FOR AMERICA TO WAKE UP. It is time for America to protect its Whistleblowers who are our last line of defense against dictatorship and despotism. It is time for America to take responsibility for oversight of its tax dollars and elect leaders who will assume such responsibility now. Yes, the war on terrorism is important. It is even more important and fearful if the terrorism is from within and unknowingly funded by hard working American citizens. There is no Special Access Program beyond the oversight of political leaders elected by the people and for the people. If these political leaders jeopardize national security then that shall be handled in a court of law. But to tell America, to tell the American people, to tell the political leaders elected by the American people that America does not deserve to know what happening in the NSA’s dark, black rooms, with billions of dollars, behind closed doors, when we know that privilege has already been abused; that is the true definition of TERRORISM. That is the true definition of Communism and a Police State, no oversight. So fellow Americans, you may hem and haw in the face of truth but know that one day you will realize that your country has been USURPED from the very principles upon which it was founded.

Godspeed, Russ Tice, the Patriots are with you.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:53

you guys ain't got anything to refute Remote Neural Monitoring, the information is public, and it was written and publiced in the Chronicle Article. there are patents, there are tons of information out there about it. there are laws about it. you guys can pretty much keep saying what you want, but it's you who are clueless and ignorant.

Actually, I do. There are not enough computers on the planet with the processing power to make this possible. Scientists working for the government were able to record what they already knew the brain was watching at the time and still couldn't come up with a clear image. So yes, we have already refuted it. Try again. We need more entertainment.