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Personally, I don't believe Blizzard developers outright asks themselves what they can do to increase money in their pockets. They may ask themselves how they can get more out of their content which indirectly benefits their subs and also benefits the players if it's done right.

I don't think developpers take such decision. Dev do what they are asked to do. Those decision (dailies) are taken by people who don't touch code with a 10 foot pole.

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Maybe developers wasn't the right word, but people like Ghostcrawler. Sure there's got to be influence to increase revenue but my point is that only doing what gives maximum profits will not benefit the player and will result in less profits. In other words: what's best for players is what's best for Blizzard. Mostly..

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Maybe developers wasn't the right word, but people like Ghostcrawler. Sure there's got to be influence to increase revenue but my point is that only doing what gives maximum profits will not benefit the player and will result in less profits. In other words: what's best for players is what's best for Blizzard. Mostly..

More like King Kotick since all he cares about is how much $$$ he can squeeze out of people.

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I like a lot of vanilla gamers quit after Cataclysm, the game just got too silly, Mists did reignite my love for the game, but maybe I've just been away too long to enjoy it or maybe I've outgrown it, who knows

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The new direction Blizzard is going with Mists isn't working for me. It's not a "take my ball and go home" situation, I just wasn't really having much fun in October. Combine "not fun" October with a busy real-life in November and then Christmas (and finals):it just makes sense to not play for a couple of months.

I might give it a go again in January - I sort of want to make one more "how to UI series" but the fun-per-dollar of warcraft just isn't justified for me right now.

I hear ya. I've been strictly playing only on raid nights for my guild just so I don't leave them hanging. None of the raids have the lore behind them that interests me.

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Closed my account last month. Did not play since october i think.

All the people i played with don't play anymore. And i just don't feel like finding a new good group again. I sorta like mist but not enough for that. I just don't like the raids enough. Cata post fireland nerf really purged any remaining interest i had in this game. Maybe i'll start again next spring. But probably not. I'm curently playing Guild Wars 2, Borderlands 2 and Halo 4.

Say goodbye to Granule, Garnotte, Bourlette, Grillepain and S?rac. I'll miss my toons :( specially my hunter Granule and my paladin Garnotte. It's strange but i kind of have a bond with some of my toons. I know it's stupid but it is the way it is.

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I just got into the 10 day trial and am leveling up a panda monk. Its ok... Seems like with every exp WoW gets sillier and sillier but I still think it has tight gameplay. I'm still undecided if I'll buy. Maybe if they were still doing a $20 sale on it. Its $30 now. Just the face that they are dropping the price so close to release is a bad sign...

I don't think that the talent changes are necessarily bad. Still figuring it out.

I wish that character transfers were cheaper. I have level 85 toons spread out all over :( I really want to play my warlock and paladin. But they are on other servers and 25 bucks to transfer is not worth it IMO.

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I've played many MMOs over the years (EQ1, 2, DAoC, AO, SW:TOR, Rift, Star Trek, Conan, GW:2...) and I always come back to WoW. I'll admit I thought the Panda stuff was silly at first but I got over it and actually enjoy it. I actually like the graphics in this game because they aren't so intense that they affect gameplay.

Last year this time I was hardcore SW:TOR. The one thing that really bothered me was the damned gameplay. It was so laggy, the actions were that is. I also had to decrease all my settings to lowest everything to get 'decent' playability. I'd read about people with mega-gaming rigs that had problems running it. Felt like I was playing through jello or wading through mud. We even had to time our jump for those damned datacrons. The tip was to hit spacebar about .5 seconds before you'd ACTUALLY hit the space bar. Yeah, it was bad. It wore me down and I stopped it and all MMOs for a time.

Fast foward to Mists Beta and I was back at it. The smooth gameplay is just second to none. I also have friends I play with and that's a definite plus.

I've yet to play an MMO that has the smooth play of WoW ( closest was GW:2 but they nerfed my class! :p ). That's my baseline standard for an MMO: how smooth is the play? If your game looks like real life but plays like crap then I could care less. :)

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Yeah, I agree. WoW has some smooth/tight gameplay. That is something Blizzard always does well at even if they lack in other areas.

I'm frustrated as hell at the moment though because I'm stuck on level 8 as a figgen n00b Panda Monk at the Temple of the Five Dawns trying to head west to The Ridge of Laughing Winds. It looks like I need to get to the top of the temple in order to cross the bridge that heads west but I'm banging my head against the wall trying to find the friggen lift/stairs/whatever to get up there. I've wondered around the whole map trying to find an alternate route. Grrrr. I feel like such a newbie and my google foo fails me.

One thing I noticed when trying to use Google to find Mists of Pandaria advice: You have to explicitly add "wow" to the search or "warcraft" or else you don't get any WoW results! Crazy! That just shows how downhill population-wise the game has gotten. Use to, type anything and a world of warcraft website would be number 1 or 2 on Google (for instance 'jewelcrafting' or 'mining').

Edit: Click the whirlwind...durp.

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I've played many MMOs over the years (EQ1, 2, DAoC, AO, SW:TOR, Rift, Star Trek, Conan, GW:2...) and I always come back to WoW. I'll admit I thought the Panda stuff was silly at first but I got over it and actually enjoy it. I actually like the graphics in this game because they aren't so intense that they affect gameplay.

Last year this time I was hardcore SW:TOR. The one thing that really bothered me was the damned gameplay. It was so laggy, the actions were that is. I also had to decrease all my settings to lowest everything to get 'decent' playability. I'd read about people with mega-gaming rigs that had problems running it. Felt like I was playing through jello or wading through mud. We even had to time our jump for those damned datacrons. The tip was to hit spacebar about .5 seconds before you'd ACTUALLY hit the space bar. Yeah, it was bad. It wore me down and I stopped it and all MMOs for a time.

Fast foward to Mists Beta and I was back at it. The smooth gameplay is just second to none. I also have friends I play with and that's a definite plus.

I've yet to play an MMO that has the smooth play of WoW ( closest was GW:2 but they nerfed my class! :p ). That's my baseline standard for an MMO: how smooth is the play? If your game looks like real life but plays like crap then I could care less. :)

Yep. One thing WoW has going for it is that its smooth as butter. When I played SWTOR it was so unresponsive it felt like I was playing it on a laptop monitor from 1993.

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I come and go in my Wow, 6month here, 3 months off, 1year back on etc.

Enjoying MOP a lot as Ive joined a small Scottish raiding guild and whilst there not in heroics yet, im having a great time.

However I,ll mirror what others have said, dailys are too much.

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Yeah, I agree. WoW has some smooth/tight gameplay. That is something Blizzard always does well at even if they lack in other areas.

I'm frustrated as hell at the moment though because I'm stuck on level 8 as a figgen n00b Panda Monk at the Temple of the Five Dawns trying to head west to The Ridge of Laughing Winds. It looks like I need to get to the top of the temple in order to cross the bridge that heads west but I'm banging my head against the wall trying to find the friggen lift/stairs/whatever to get up there. I've wondered around the whole map trying to find an alternate route. Grrrr. I feel like such a newbie and my google foo fails me.

One thing I noticed when trying to use Google to find Mists of Pandaria advice: You have to explicitly add "wow" to the search or "warcraft" or else you don't get any WoW results! Crazy! That just shows how downhill population-wise the game has gotten. Use to, type anything and a world of warcraft website would be number 1 or 2 on Google (for instance 'jewelcrafting' or 'mining').

Edit: Click the whirlwind...durp.

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Yeah, my examples were those that still bring up WoW stuff first. But I mean, I typed in some places from the new Pandaria areas and was surprised that I didn't find what I was looking for near the top of the search results.

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OMG, Demonology for Warlock has become so crazy. There are demons popping up everywhere and a million things to keep track of. I may have to respec to Destruction or something for leveling. And there is some kind of "Tank" build for warlocks now? Are any Warlocks actually tanking or is that a joke?

7 more days of free trial left... Still on the fence if I purchase or not. Wish it was still $20 or the subscription was cheaper... Still $45 for me to have the expansion and play for a month...thats kinda pricy for me.

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i decided to pick this up again after about a 2 year gap.

I can't really remember where I was up to but I've only ever been a casual player.. too casual to be involved in a group or a guild, which is why I've never been in one. I'm level 65 at the moment, and I've done it all by myself. :rofl: I would say that the game has gotten a lot easier for some reason. Have they decreased the difficulty of the enemies or something?

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i decided to pick this up again after about a 2 year gap.

I can't really remember where I was up to but I've only ever been a casual player.. too casual to be involved in a group or a guild, which is why I've never been in one. I'm level 65 at the moment, and I've done it all by myself. :rofl: I would say that the game has gotten a lot easier for some reason. Have they decreased the difficulty of the enemies or something?

Yes, enemies have far less armor than they used to. They have also changed a lot of the gear/talents to do more damage. I quit wow for a solid year, got the 10 day mists trial. Ended up buying it as I wanted to level up past 85 on my priest. Currently don't intend on resubbing, but have the option if I want.

Currently leveling as Disc, I never lose more than 25% HP killing mobs higher than my level, and I can go through a solid 10+ enemies before my mana is considered low. I haven't even used any of the gear from the quests which would increase my stats by a lot. I've been using my cata heroic gear and it's still standing solid.

Also, making 9g per quest, money for repairs doesn't even cause me to blink.

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I left the game after trying Cata for a few months, i absolutely lost all interest in the game after that.

However since Mop was released... I am starting to really get back into it. The dailies are to much, i am not going to grind them at all. I am not a hardcore raider anyway, I am going more into PvP.

If anyone is on Xavius-EU, let me know! PM ME!

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My 10-day trial of WoW Mists is over tomorrow :(. So Sad. Won't be purchasing though because it isn't worth $45 to play for another month. Maybe if they went to a free model I would buy into it but right now I only feel like playing every once and awhile and don't want to pay $15 for the right to play a game I already purchased.

Oh well. Tons of games out there. Maybe if Blizz lowers the price a bit I'll be back. Cheers!

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My guild is still chugging along. We're 4/16 heroic. I've thought about quitting but my annual pass doesn't expire until March or April and by then the new raid will be out. I've just about finished needing to do daily quests since i'm exalted with almost everyone now. Once you get over daily quests, the too much to do thing begins to go away and you get bored again.

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No new posts in this thread in 2 months? :| Did everyone quit WoW? Since the last post in this thread a new content patch came out and another new content patch was announced.

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