eaglebtc Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 This sux0rs. A federal judge on Tuesday ordered Verizon Communications to disclose the identity of an alleged peer-to-peer pirate in a legal decision that could make it easier for the music industry to crack down on file-swapping networks. In a 37-page decision, U.S. District Judge John Bates said the wording of the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act requires Verizon to give the Recording Industry Association of America the name of a Kazaa subscriber who allegedly was sharing more than 600 music recordings. Bates said "the court disagrees with Verizon's strained reading of the act, which disregards entirely the clear definitional language." This case represents the entertainment industry's latest legal assault on peer-to-peer piracy. If its invocation of the DMCA is upheld on appeal, music industry investigators would have the power to identify hundreds or thousands of music pirates at a time without going to court first. The dispute is not about whether the RIAA will be able to force Verizon to reveal the identity of a suspected copyright infringer, but about what legal mechanism copyright holders will be able to use. The RIAA would prefer to rely on the DMCA's turbocharged-subpoena process because it is cheaper and faster than other methods--but Verizon and civil liberties groups have said it is not sufficiently privacy-protective. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-981449.html?tag=fd_top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 Then they better bust anyone who has any form of copyrighted material (MP3, Simpsons WAV file, JPG of a movie star, etc) on a network, ftp site, kazaa, etc. This is absolute Bull$poop :crazy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMeK Veteran Posted January 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 21, 2003 thats just bull.... pure bull...... wen will the riaa learn its not gona stop it, the only way to stop illegal music transfering is by stopping the ability to transfer files over the internet, so STOP the internet, which to put it bluntley they aint got a hope in hell of doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonick Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 hmmm 1 more user is gone.... 4 million to go :D :D :D way to go RIAA :woot: :woot: :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted January 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 21, 2003 wtf :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nautica Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 This is very very scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyt302 Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 only 600 songs, lol, i know people with 10,000+. hahahaha. shut down kazaa for all i care, its all about IRC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotix Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 IP Address = your secret identity. It's the next barrier in P2P to overcome or route around by creating a different type of network like freenet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Zollo Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 Then they better bust anyone who has any form of copyrighted material (MP3, Simpsons WAV file, JPG of a movie star, etc) on a network, ftp site, kazaa, etc.This is absolute Bull$poop :crazy: Agreed, this is totally out of control! Before we know it, RIAA officers are going to be coming to our houses to do checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider_Man Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 Ok, um...let's see anyone tat has ever wanted to be secure somewhat has used a PROXY!!! So all that needs to be donw is for Kazaa to setup a way for people to connect through a proxy. Or better yet. Quit logging anything. When the court asks for records they can quite simply say..." I'm sorry we ave no records of this going on." Simple, Easy. Concerning a proxy, anyone that is using Kazaa at present have the ability to set in their client a proxy server to go through. On top of that, most of us broadband users that have networks that have rouers with advanced features. You can enter a proxy address to go out to the internet through in the router. Oh and every hacker favorite methodology...SPOOFING!!! Geez,so the Really Idiotic Assspelunkers Association busted 1 guy. Whopity-Freakin-Do!!! Like that makes a difference. That just makes the rest of us more angry at them and pushes us to figure out more ways to get their stuff for free. It's a basic psychological premise, the more you push people not to do something, the more they will do it. They thought getting rid of Napster would stop us. Did it? NO!!! All it did was make someone come up with another P2P Network!!! And this time they did it outside the states and made it worldwide!!! So they can force companies to give up that kind of information, what makes them think that they can always give up that info? There are a few ways to get around this BS and legally no less. Butthat's ok RIAA, take away KaZaA. We stil have IRC and you can't stop that! :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsekicker Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 :) That was close, I thought they might be cracking down on porn too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbing Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 This is very very scary Scary? Why? You afraid to get caught? If they jail one of us, they are gonna have to jail all of us and they don;t have enough space in prison for 100,000 users +. Besides, what are they worrying about? Microsoft *cough* *big laugh* is creating an encryption technology that will prevent people from copying music CDs. YEAH RIGHT! - WHAT A JOKE! They can't even protect their own OS from hackers! - JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA....Please Billy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglebtc Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 "Dr. Lecter!?" "Well, hello Clarice..." "Where are you?" "Listen, I can't talk long...I'm having an old friend for dinner." :devil: :devil: :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomex Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 You think IRC will save you? IRC is the easiest place to shut down and to get invidual users... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Zeino Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I have 3000 media files on my pc, all illegal, but I figured out, just dont share them, and u wont get busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurting101 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 just dont share them, and u wont get busted. That's exactly what the RIAA wants, to help stop the spread of illegal files... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persianpsycho Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 stupid f*cking riaa :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELTA75329 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I read this on Morons.org last night. funny that the RIAA keeps screaming more and more... these people are like babies crying over candy. :pinch: Any moment now, I expect Hillary Rosen's head to turn 180-degrees and for her to say "you're all gonna die up there" right before she vomits across the room...Still refusing to admit that their declining CD sales is more the result of a stumbling economy or- perish the thought- the proudction of crappy music that nobody likes, the RIAA is now engaged in an effort to spread the blame for their problems and suggest that ISPs ought to be made to pay damages for their file sharing customers. Hillary Rosen, the RIAA's lobbyist in chief told the Midem music conference, "We will hold ISPs more accountable. Let's face it. They know there's a lot of demand for broadband simply because of the availability (of file-sharing)." There's just one little problem with that, however. The RIAA's precious Digital Millenium Copyright Act specifically states that Internet Service Providers cannot be held liable for the traffic that they route. Only their customers can be held accountable. Indeed, recently Verio told the RIAA to bugger off when they demanded Verio release the identity of a customer based on the contents of that customer's own hard drive. The DMCA doesn't require this; while it's true that an ISP may have to remove or disable access to files on their own servers when a complaint is filed by the copyright holder, it says nothing about customers serving documents from their own hard drives. You'd think for an organization that uses the DMCA as leverage in so many cases to hamper free speech would have read it at least once to see that it protects service providers from their frivolous lawsuits. Rosen is suggesting that ISPs be made to charge a fee to customers who access file-sharing networks. The fee, naturally, would then be given to the RIAA to make up for their imaginary lost profits, which they have still failed to show are the result of file sharing in the first place. The trouble is, there's no reliable technical means to determine what if anything subscribers are retrieving or sharing on peer-to-peer file sharing networks without severely impacting the quality and cost of service (you'd basically have to intercept all network traffic and somehow examine file contents to determine if the audio captured in a song corresponded to a known copyrighted work; not impossible but extremely costly to develop and maintain, and with a substantial impact on the quality of service in terms of latency and throughput once implemented). Rosen is clearly ignorant of how Internet service providers operate, perhaps even more clueless than the security staff at RoadRunner. The fee she proposes not only flies in the face of the DMCA she loves so dearly, it would also have to be applied to all customers since determining which customers actually shared copyrighted material on file-sharing networks would be a near impossibility. In other words, it's the same stupidity we've learned to expect out of the RIAA. ---Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briandl79 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 100,000+ ? Where did you get that number ? Last time I checked there were almost 4 MILLION users on Kazaa..... And it's never a good idea to state in public that you have broken the law..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglebtc Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 DEAR GOD! Somebody PLEASE shoot this woman!! I want her head!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxBoy Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I guess the next best thing is to trade them via CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglebtc Posted January 22, 2003 Author Share Posted January 22, 2003 I guess the next best thing is to trade them via CDs. "Do you have a better uptime?" Well I'm going on 5 days now, maybe i'll last as long as you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 You think IRC will save you? IRC is the easiest place to shut down and to get invidual users... Yes. I agree with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 BTW... RIAA cant stop this type of technology... There are a lot of more p2p jumping around... With sourcecode included ;) :p . So you can do yours if you need, with your net and cyphered connection if is need it :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted January 22, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2003 The riaa can not do anything unless they PHYSICALLY PROVE u were sitting behind the computer using it at that time... simple as that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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