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[brianshapiro]

Forget arguments over whether the movie was good... I just really don't see the point of this.

They say they're going to use the story to address modern issues, just as the original series addressed issues of the 60s. But, whats the point of reusing the old characters, when the old characters were relevant to the 60s also? Chekhov was put in to make a statement about the Cold War, Spock addressed issues about the limits of logic because some people in the 60s wanted to criticize a rational approach to everything. Our culture is different today, we would need characters suited to address modern issues.

And that even aside, I don't see the point of reusing the old characters. Or doing this as a movie series rather than as a television series.

(I have no problem with the concept of a re-imagining in general, I'm kind of tired of fanboys wanting everything consistent with every version of Star Trek and trying to retcon everything to make sense just for the sake of consistency)

[trag3dy]

If it's good who cares what their reason for making it is?

[mudslag]

brianshapiro, on 28 June 2012 - 17:58, said:

And that even aside, I don't see the point of reusing the old characters. Or doing this as a movie series rather than as a television series.

I think reusing old characters makes it easier to connect to the movie and what it stands for. If they came out with new characters that no one knew anything about the movie just wouldn't be the same. The original characters are easily to relate with, even regardless of new actors portraying them, specially given the already large base that knows them. As for movies rather then tv, well scify tv shows are costly and risk of not doing well. Movies, if it's good will offer a much faster return on the investment. Plus again new characters would be better introduced in a tv show then it would be for a movie.

[GP007]

All I know is Kirk > *, I don't care if they try to do what TOS did back in the 60s, I just want another Star Trek movie with the original crew. Besides, why wouldn't the original characters be able to be used to address modern issues anyways? Since this is a reboot there are also a few subtle changes to the characters I'd say. Or it could just be because it's different actors putting their own spin on them, either case it's fine to me.

[Rappy]

At a promotional junket for Dredd, Karl Urban may just have let slip who Benedict Cumberbatch is playing in J.J. Abrams' Star Trek sequel. When asked by SFX what it was like having the Sherlock actor on set, Urban replied:

 “He’s awesome, he’s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary.” 

[Mark]

Missed a lot of this thread but I need to throw this in. The borg could easily work because they haven't had the same amount of time to assimilate as much technology, so we would definitely see a different sort of borg if this happened.

[Dot Matrix]

Mark, on 09 July 2012 - 13:29, said:

Missed a lot of this thread but I need to throw this in. The borg could easily work because they haven't had the same amount of time to assimilate as much technology, so we would definitely see a different sort of borg if this happened.

But at this point in history (If the events of "First Contact" and "Drone" still happened) the Borg are still far in the Delta Quadrant. They didn't make it to the Beta Quadrant until the TNG era, and never made it to the Alpha Quadrant until the events of "The Best of Both Worlds".

[Mark]

Dot Matrix, on 09 July 2012 - 13:32, said:

But at this point in history (If the events of "First Contact" and "Drone" still happened) the Borg are still far in the Delta Quadrant. They didn't make it to the Beta Quadrant until the TNG era, and never made it to the Alpha Quadrant until the events of "The Best of Both Worlds".

It's Star Trek, anything could happen

[Dot Matrix]

Mark, on 09 July 2012 - 13:35, said:

It's Star Trek, anything could happen

Yes, but continuity reigns supreme. If you can keep your story straight, don't expect high marks on your work. Since Nero's incursion happened after the events of 'Enterprise', I'm suspecting that the events of "Drone" still happened, HOWEVER, since they were based off of "First Contact", which HASN'T happened yet, and might not happen anymore, than all bets are off if the Borg are even aware of Earth's existance, and have sent out a cube to investigate the source of the Borg Singnal recieved from Earth Starfleet territory, which means they're safely tucked away in the Delta Quadrant for the time being.

My head hurts....

[Mark]

What I mean is, the alternative reality thing has allowed them to explain any new and strange story shift with "it's an alternate reality" and "the butterfly effect" (or whatever they'd call it in Star Trek, "temporal divergence ripples"?)

If it's too weird and off point, it'll be a lame justification, but they could do it if they wanted to

[GP007]

I'd rather they didn't, the Borg have been done, and done enough. They got their movie in first contact, enough already! How about something else?

[Mark]

Tribbles get introduced to earth by accident and they take over?

Enterprise gets thrown into a galaxy far far away?

[DocM]

Star Trek: Into Darkness ?

http://m.superherohy...k-into-darkness

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Is J.J. Abrams Taking a Star Trek Into Darkness?

Tomorrow, September 8th, marks the 46th anniversary of Gene Roddenberry's "Star Trek", but SuperHero Hype is celebrating a little early with a juicy rumor to share. We've been been told that the 2013 J.J. Abrams sequel has chosen a title and will hit theaters as Star Trek Into Darkness.

Although we have not yet been able to officially confirm said title, the domain names www.startrekintodarkness.com and www.startrekintodarknessmovie were both registered yesterday through Markmonitor, an anonymous domain registry service that just so happens to have been utilized by Paramount Pictures for recent URLs like their official G.I. Joe: Retaliation site.

We'll bring you confirmation as soon as it's available, but what is certain is that the film will star Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Zoe Saldana, Karl Urban, John Cho, Bruce Greenwood, Simon Pegg, Anton Yelchin, Benedict Cumberbatch, Alice Eve and Peter Weller with a screenplay by Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, Damon Lindelof and that it will hit theaters on May 17, 2013 in 2D, 3D theaters and IMAX 3D versions.

[+Anarkii]

When I read into darkness as the subtitle I got immediate thoughts of the universe blackening out like in Dr Who.

[Rappy]

ooo sounds good!