Star Trek Into Darkness


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#511 Shane Nokes

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:46

I'm fairly certain that you're not seeing Kirk in that bottom photo.

The sleeve appears to be Black which would fit in with us having seen BC wearing a black uniform earlier on.

However that does appear to be Spock (speculating due to finger position and color/symbol on uniform) so hmm...

Perhaps Sybok is the villain? We do know that Sybok was born before Spock, and that his birth would have still occurred even in the new timeline.

He would have been away from Vulcan according to what we know of the time-line by this point and still alive in the new universe.


The only reason I doubt my theory on this is that I didn't spot any pointed ears on BC at all...but it would make sense with the first shot they released being Spock vs BC, and all the mentions of family, and that it is 'one of their own'.

On the flipside of that it could also be Sam Kirk.


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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:17

Man I wonder how long they can go before we find out for sure who it is? I think the best thing they can do is keep us guessing till the movie actually comes out.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 13:18

View PostShane Nokes, on 07 December 2012 - 03:46, said:

I'm fairly certain that you're not seeing Kirk in that bottom photo.

The sleeve appears to be Black which would fit in with us having seen BC wearing a black uniform earlier on.

However that does appear to be Spock (speculating due to finger position and color/symbol on uniform) so hmm...

Perhaps Sybok is the villain? We do know that Sybok was born before Spock, and that his birth would have still occurred even in the new timeline.

He would have been away from Vulcan according to what we know of the time-line by this point and still alive in the new universe.


The only reason I doubt my theory on this is that I didn't spot any pointed ears on BC at all...but it would make sense with the first shot they released being Spock vs BC, and all the mentions of family, and that it is 'one of their own'.

On the flipside of that it could also be Sam Kirk.
That's an interesting theory. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more than one villain in the movie.

View PostGP007, on 07 December 2012 - 12:17, said:

Man I wonder how long they can go before we find out for sure who it is? I think the best thing they can do is keep us guessing till the movie actually comes out.
We'll have to wait until they release the full teaser trailer. If we're still scratching our heads, then chances are they'll keep the villain(s) a secret until the movie is released.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 13:36

I'm personally hoping the 10 minutes shown before The Hobbit will reveal who it is...

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 13:40

I personally think it's Anakin Skywalker.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 13:57

View PostShane Nokes, on 07 December 2012 - 03:46, said:

I'm fairly certain that you're not seeing Kirk in that bottom photo.

The sleeve appears to be Black which would fit in with us having seen BC wearing a black uniform earlier on.

However that does appear to be Spock (speculating due to finger position and color/symbol on uniform) so hmm...

Perhaps Sybok is the villain? We do know that Sybok was born before Spock, and that his birth would have still occurred even in the new timeline.

He would have been away from Vulcan according to what we know of the time-line by this point and still alive in the new universe.


The only reason I doubt my theory on this is that I didn't spot any pointed ears on BC at all...but it would make sense with the first shot they released being Spock vs BC, and all the mentions of family, and that it is 'one of their own'.

On the flipside of that it could also be Sam Kirk.


Well I certainly hope they are not repeating the same deal as ST 2 where Spock dies because that would not be cool.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 14:06

View PostScorbing, on 07 December 2012 - 13:57, said:

Well I certainly hope they are not repeating the same deal as ST 2 where Spock dies because that would not be cool.

I hope not as well. Zach did make a remark about moving on from Spock, but later said it was taken out of context.

I do know that the primary cast did sign a 3 film deal...but that doesn't come into play if they decide to kill off a character.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 15:23

View PostShane Nokes, on 07 December 2012 - 14:06, said:

I hope not as well. Zach did make a remark about moving on from Spock, but later said it was taken out of context.

I do know that the primary cast did sign a 3 film deal...but that doesn't come into play if they decide to kill off a character.

Killing Spock or any of the main characters would be completely stupid on their part. I hope that's not the case for the sake of the franchise. Hardcore Star Trek fans are already ticked off at the idea of Trek becoming a Michael Bay-type of film. Killing Spock or any of the main characters would certainly tick them off for sure.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 16:16

It's way too early to talk about killing off any of the main cast, and besides killing Spock has been done already. I really doubt the writers want to reuse old plot points exactly the same. Thus the above picture in the trailer is different to STII but enough of it is also the same that it's more of an homage to STII really.

If the sequel rakes in the big $$$ the first one did or more I doubt any of the actors will want to be quick to "'move on'" from their places. Also when doing a big franchise reboot like this I think it's now the norm to have them sign 3 movie deals from the start.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 17:26

Hey, maybe they'll kill off Kirk, or Scotty. Or maybe that's really Anakin Skywalker.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 17:29

It would shock if they killed Spock which is maybe what they'll go for. I just think JJ is teasing us that Benedict is Khan but he will turn out to not be

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 19:14

im actually really looking forward to this movie next year. i really enjoyed the first.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 19:22

Damn, was so hoping Khan would be in this but Pegg said awhile back that he wasn't a villain. Well, maybe he'll be in Part 3.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 19:24

I guess to Mart's point, I don't really hold any of the movies to the same standard because of the format change alone. I also agree that JJ's approach is still more Star Wars with a Trek skin than what Gene did.

As such, that teaser was pretty cool.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 19:24

View PostRappy, on 07 December 2012 - 17:29, said:

It would shock if they killed Spock which is maybe what they'll go for. I just think JJ is teasing us that Benedict is Khan but he will turn out to not be

Pegg said earlier this year that Khan was not going to be the villain but you never know.