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I believe they are back in the Nightly builds as well.

well yeah, that just makes since that if it's in the Aurora builds logically it'd be in the nightly builds as well

cool, and they got the tab animations working in a way that you can still interact with the taskbar when dragging a tab :)

Might be late but I am kinda liking where this thing is going , will kill IM in a way i guess...

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Okay people might call me crazy but I am seeing that Mozilla is implementing things much more efficiently than any other browser vendor at present , like see how they are developing a metro app so well , and this Social API thingy ,and the PDF viewer is just too amazing, and the IonMonkey landing was so smooth, didn't break anything vigorously ! It's just that Mozilla doesn't complete everything in time (or ever) ...

I just updated to Aurora after hearing that they finally added tab animations. It seems to work great, but there are unfortunately still glitches with the two best extensions, TabGroups Manager and TabMixPlus. When the developers fix the small bugs with their extensions, Firefox will be hands down my favorite web browser!! The way I have it customized is almost perfect! I just need an update to TabGroups Manager mostly. It works, but if you try to drag the tabs to another group it gets all messed up. Does anyone how to fix that? I can't be the only using TabGroups Manager. For now, I'm just going to use TabGroup Switcher and Panorama.

Just updated from FF 15.01 or whatever the current release was, to FF16b4.. I didn't realise how buggy my browsing had become until now, FF16b4 is smooooooth compared

I don't see much of a difference. It feels the same, actually.

If you mean This index page then it works fine for me with latest nightly.Addon issue maybe?

I'm using FF16b4 and yep that page kills FF for a good 20 seconds+ and a not responding message, mouse pointer turns to loading circle, all the normal hanging traits

Yea must be an addon, safe mode loads pretty quick, I hate when this happens it takes ages going through them all, is there nothing like Event Log for FF that will show loading times for addons ?

EDIT - Adblock and Ghostery both cause it to hang loading, and whitelisting the site doesn't make any difference the addons have to be completely disabled for it to load normally

Any word on when they will fix the HiDPI/retina support for the mac version nightlies? It's been there for quite some time now, eager to go back to FF for some time and see how fast ion monkey is, but it's too blurry without HiDPI.

That is weird.I have both Ghostery and dev adblock enabled too and see no such hang issues on the site.Maybe there is something wrong with your profile and its time for a new profile?

Nope, completely uninstalled, deleted all profile and appdata etc folder, reinstalled, same problem

Any word on when they will fix the HiDPI/retina support for the mac version nightlies? It's been there for quite some time now, eager to go back to FF for some time and see how fast ion monkey is, but it's too blurry without HiDPI.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674373

The patches have passed review, but it's always possible more issues could be found that hold it back (like Display List based invalidation, it passed review, passed tests, and proceeded to break random things for users when it landed)

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=674373

The patches have passed review, but it's always possible more issues could be found that hold it back (like Display List based invalidation, it passed review, passed tests, and proceeded to break random things for users when it landed)

Yeah, based on today's posts to that bug report, it should land in the next few builds.

Did facebook do something or Nightly has gone a lot faster at dealing with messages etc in facebook ?

Even scrolling etc has improved , I mean it feels fast! (Any big thing happened after IonMonkey?)

Many things happened... but I switched to Opera..

But still I will tell you what happened.

Thebes Layer related bug fixed which was holding back azure content acceleration, slow path for gdi fallback fixed, Input slowdown one bug regression from FF16 also fixed.

Now recently DLBI also landed and Stub Installed not to mention HiDPI support for Mac OS X.

Many things happened... but I switched to Opera..

But still I will tell you what happened.

Thebes Layer related bug fixed which was holding back azure content acceleration, slow path for gdi fallback fixed, Input slowdown one bug regression from FF16 also fixed.

Now recently DLBI also landed and Stub Installed not to mention HiDPI support for Mac OS X.

HiDPI should land in tomorrow's build, but it still probably won't run smoothly as there still seems to be some plugin scaling issues. Will give it a try when the update get pushed. I have a feeling I will be back to using chrome by the end of the day if plugin support is too messy.

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