ArialBlue Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 IE and Chrome I can understand, but the Steam browser while I'm playing a game!? I really don't get that one. Add the fact going from Fx14 to the nightlies makes it worse (MUCH worse in the case of bing maps) I just don't understand. What's the issue? Mozilla? My card? AMD's drivers? I've been using Firefox since it was Firebird, this isn't gonna make me switch, but it's pretty annoying nonetheless. With AMD dropping any kind of meaningful support for the HD4000 series and Firefox having issues with maps, I feel like I should get rid of my 4890 though it can still play newly released games at pretty good framerates. Good thing I don't have plans on upgrading to Windows 8 for now cause there's even more problems with my card on there. Isn't steam browser Chrome based? Well obviously Mozilla if 14 is A OK and nightly is abysmal hell on earth. I am loyal to the speed champion - Opera on W7 and IE10 on W8. Yep, I am not risking buying anything else from AMD after they pulled of that stunt. Checked out NVIDIA and got W8 drivers for the 6xxx series - now I am convinced that AMD reeks of cheapness. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595108971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trag3dy Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Fairly certain the steam web browser is webkit. At least it was a year or two ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595108991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted August 21, 2012 MVC Share Posted August 21, 2012 CSS related bug fix: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741293 Crash fix: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783824 Layout:Text fix: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702121 CSS Quirk Mode Regression: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776591 Social API: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779686 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779360 PDF Viewer Settings: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777388 New Tab Page: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752841 Adjust number of tiles on New Tab Page, these are two new preferences for this: browser.newtabpage.rows and browser.newtabpage.columns Image Discarding ImageLib Issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783379 Iframe Sandbox: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341604 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 apparently ionmonkey javascript engine will be out in firefox 18, wonder when we will get a new faster html renderer, can't remember it's proper name. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Isn't steam browser Chrome based? Well obviously Mozilla if 14 is A OK and nightly is abysmal hell on earth. I am loyal to the speed champion - Opera on W7 and IE10 on W8. Yep, I am not risking buying anything else from AMD after they pulled of that stunt. Checked out NVIDIA and got W8 drivers for the 6xxx series - now I am convinced that AMD reeks of cheapness. -Steam is using Webkit, and so is Chrome. But steam isn't based on Chrome at all. -Also why is the guy whining about nightlies being buggy? They are meant to be like that. If you want stability and bug free release, use the main channel, not nightly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zlip792 MVC Posted August 21, 2012 MVC Share Posted August 21, 2012 The issue in Nightly might be due to DLBI (Display List Based Invalidation), it will be good to file a bug with proper regression range. IE Maze Solver benchmark in Firefox got quite speedup now, end under 20 sec of 30*30. So quite an improvement. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsis Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 -Steam is using Webkit, and so is Chrome. But steam isn't based on Chrome at all. -Also why is the guy whining about nightlies being buggy? They are meant to be like that. If you want stability and bug free release, use the main channel, not nightly. I'm not whining, at least I don't see it like that. Just trying to figure out why Firefox, and not just the nightlies; otherwise I wouldn't have brough this up, but also all the way down to stable, that has bad performance in maps. I do expect performance increase in nightlies though. Been using them on and off since 4.0 and I've always had a pretty good experience as far as performance goes. Obviously there's going to be bugs, but usually its things that break addons or some websites that I've seen. I guess what I'm really wondering now is if we'll ever see HW acceleration on par with other browsers. Oh and originally I was also if I was the only one having this issue. But I'm guessing from the replies that I'm not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Can you give a specific link to bing maps? It works fine here on Firefox. Also, if you want a cool bug, go here : http://www.360cities.net/image/curiosity-rover-martian-solar-day-2 ,and see how bad it performs if you don't go fullscreen :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orry Verducci Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Can you give a specific link to bing maps? It works fine here on Firefox. Also, if you want a cool bug, go here : http://www.360cities...ian-solar-day-2 ,and see how bad it performs if you don't go fullscreen :p Performs nicely for me on 15 beta, with graphics acceleration. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excelsis Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Can you give a specific link to bing maps? It works fine here on Firefox. Also, if you want a cool bug, go here : http://www.360cities...ian-solar-day-2 ,and see how bad it performs if you don't go fullscreen :p bing.com/maps/ Just zooming in/out it bugs out a little, moving around it stutters/'jitters' quite a bit. It might be me though, I expect 60 frames per second on something as simple as a web browser. Crazy how well it performs in fullscreen. That's what I would expect in normal mode, though it's not too bad for me. But it's Flash so yeah. Interestingly, in fullscreen it performs slightly better in Firefox than IE9, haha. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595109483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr9zev Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 UX x64 hasn't been updated for almost 2 weeks! Weird, holidays in UX-Team? :3 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595110311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.stan Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 All the UX Team does is Mockups anyway. +Zlip792, escobar_ and Aethec 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595113243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted August 23, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted August 23, 2012 After using Nightly builds for over two years, I moved up to the Beta Build. I got real tired of all of the crashes and problems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595115081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.stan Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Most impressive thing of the week: The Thunderbird team, which is like 3 times smaller than the FX team, already has the new menu button and australis tabs implemented and working. Aethec and bogas04 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595115303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted August 23, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted August 23, 2012 Most impressive thing of the week: The Thunderbird team, which is like 3 times smaller than the FX team, already has the new menu button and australis tabs implemented and working. Mozilla is going to end production of Thunderbird after the last build which is a shame as it is a good email client. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595116515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.stan Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Mozilla is going to end production of Thunderbird after the last build which is a shame as it is a good email client. That is not true. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595116569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 It is kind of hard to compete with online clients these days. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595116583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion and Lamb Ministry Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Online Mail Clients have no where near the functionality that desktop clients, like Thunderbird, do. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595116791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Online Mail Clients have no where near the functionality that desktop clients, like Thunderbird, do. Both don't cover all the functionalities, because they don't play the same role. There are things you can do only in TB and others things that you can only do with the webmail.But at the end, if Mozilla reduce/stop TB development, it's lame since they are wasting many resources into futile things like Firefox OS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595116849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 What's wrong here? FF 15 latest beta Trying to watch this http://twit.tv/show/windows-weekly/275 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595118019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 ^ You need flash installed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595118031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 ^ You need flash installed. :p I do have flash installed Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595118035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Work in IE10 using both modes. Doesn't work in Firefox in HTML5 mode and I don't have flash installed yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595118053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Work in IE10 using both modes. Doesn't work in Firefox in HTML5 mode and I don't have flash installed yet. Works in IE9 (Win 7) in Flash + HTML5 Nothing with FF though Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595118075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 What's wrong here? FF 15 latest beta Trying to watch this http://twit.tv/show/windows-weekly/275 Works with Flash (FF17) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/989780-meet-the-browser-firefox-next/page/95/#findComment-595118091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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