Rumor: Microsoft will unveil new Xbox at E3 2012

It has now been confirmed by an employee within Microsoft's entertainment division, that the company intends to unveil details of the next Xbox, at next year's E3 conference. The date choice makes sense given that E3 is the gaming industry's biggest annual event. We at Neowin should stress that we can not confirm this information at this time. 

Earlier this month, Neowin covered a rumour that we would be seeing the next Xbox at E3 2012, and it has now been confirmed after a source informed BGR of Microsoft's plans for next year. The news source also briefly touched on the fact that the company had been working on the next generation of Xbox since 2006, but didn't have information regarding the launch schedule for the upcoming gaming console.

There are no real details as to what the features of the new Xbox will provide to gamers, however Microsoft have pushed for better integration with its other platforms, particularly since details of Windows 8 were released. From speculation, better accessibility for the Windows operating system and Windows Phone will be one of the console's promoted features.

Microsoft was somewhat originally late in the race for supplying gaming consoles to consumers, but the company has been able to successfully promote the console to be a big contender with the PlayStation and Nintendo. Indeed the total amount of consoles shipped worldwide of the Xbox is beyond that of the PS3. This might have been helped however, by the regular hardware updates to the platform, more recently the Xbox Kinect.

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KingCrimson said,
The Kinect will always have to be a separate device that is some distance away from the console unit.

Or MS can shrink it down enough and sell it to TV makers so that kinect is built into the TV from the get go. You'd just have to connect the tv to the Xbox with a 2nd cable but I don't think that's an issue.

MS can shrink it down enough and sell it to TV makers so that kinect is built into the TV from the get go. You'd just have to connect the tv to the Xbox with a 2nd cable but I don't think that's an issue.[/quote]
It will be a tough sell because tv is general however, there's an option on the tv for existing kinect to connect to tv so u can change channel. Imagine switching input like saying "Kinect, watch DVD" and it will connect to dvd.

Indeed the total amount of consoles shipped worldwide of the Xbox is beyond that of the PS3. This might have been helped however, by the regular hardware updates to the platform, more recently the Xbox Kinect.

Or the one year head start.

I can see a new form factor, and new peripheral options like more USB ports, and the ability to be a DVR, but replacing the current architecture is a bit premature, when games graphically are not hitting any walls with the XBox 360 like they are with the PS3.

The XBox 360 GPU is old, but supports virtually everything a new GPU does today, with a lot of DX10 features sitting in the XENOs since it was designed, like tensellation, and unified shader and using the OS's VRAM virtualization.

Doubtful. Now, it is certainly possible that they've been planning a successor, it doesn't mean we'll see it anytime soon. I doubt any company will be able to repeat what Sony has done with the PS2 and PS3.

And for the love of god, please stop calling the next Xbox ''Xbox 720''.

I really hope this one supports Bluray... There is just no excuse anymore to not accept that it has won... And who really wants to have to have 2 separate devices for movies and games when it is so unnecessary...

Sounds a bit early for new consoles to come out. I like the fact that Sony is expanding years and new ideas into the PS3 . Although I would like to see what new technology is coming for the Xbox.

Judo said,
Sounds a bit early for new consoles to come out. I like the fact that Sony is expanding years and new ideas into the PS3 . Although I would like to see what new technology is coming for the Xbox.
Early?

Well if you think about it, it probably won't come out until maybe fourth quarter 2013. That's still 8 years after the console was originally launched.

If we get a peek at it during E3 2012, it might not actually launch until the holiday season of 2013.

And I bet it will be much more than a game console. It will be a complete media hub. You'll be able to watch network programming on it. Subscribe to premium channels like HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax. Access your channels through Windows Phone or a Windows tablet when you're on the go. It will be awesome.

Winning Guy said,
If we get a peek at it during E3 2012, it might not actually launch until the holiday season of 2013.

And I bet it will be much more than a game console. It will be a complete media hub. You'll be able to watch network programming on it. Subscribe to premium channels like HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax. Access your channels through Windows Phone or a Windows tablet when you're on the go. It will be awesome.

yea, Im just hoping they dont get lost in the media sector and forget about important gaming features needed.

I just hope it still has a regular controller, not just Kinect/motion games. I also hope the Xbox Live Arcade stuff will carry over seamlessly to the new Xbox.

Enron said,
I just hope it still has a regular controller, not just Kinect/motion games. I also hope the Xbox Live Arcade stuff will carry over seamlessly to the new Xbox.

Yeah, as cool as Kinect is, I wouldn't want it to replace the controller completely.

so my dreams of getting rid of physical media are over, I was hoping that one could be able to download a complete game without the need to buy a disc with the next generation of consoles, but it's way too soon it seams.

Meconio said,
so my dreams of getting rid of physical media are over, I was hoping that one could be able to download a complete game without the need to buy a disc with the next generation of consoles, but it's way too soon it seams.

Those of us with slow internet and/or bandwidth caps say "Hi".

Meconio said,
so my dreams of getting rid of physical media are over, I was hoping that one could be able to download a complete game without the need to buy a disc with the next generation of consoles, but it's way too soon it seams.

I dont think we will see that till the next xbox after the next xbox..
They are just now releasing 1gbs, THAT should be good enough for cloud gaming. Untill i get that i will not get any iteration of it (like OnLive)

lunarworks said,

Those of us with slow internet and/or bandwidth caps say "Hi".

Yeah. I really don't think we're there yet. Some people clearly don't have any issue, but I know I would never be able to download all of my games... Lara Croft: Guardian of Light was big enough...

Meconio said,
so my dreams of getting rid of physical media are over, I was hoping that one could be able to download a complete game without the need to buy a disc with the next generation of consoles, but it's way too soon it seams.

I don't think they'll go 100% download-only in the new console, in fact I'm absolutely certain they won't. But I strongly believe we'll see a bigger HDD (hopefully user upgradable like PS3 and not proprietary) and have the option for download games to our consoles if we have an internet connection capable of doing so. I also think it would be a good idea to split game downloads up into segments so you can start playing almost straight away while segment 2 downloads in the background.

Meconio said,
so my dreams of getting rid of physical media are over, I was hoping that one could be able to download a complete game without the need to buy a disc with the next generation of consoles, but it's way too soon it seams.

the day when 1Gbit/s is common place with crazy high cap or no cap at all!!!!

Hopefully xbox 720 will have a in-built kinect, in the form of it snaps out of the system, the price can't be that high even with this...

SteelToast said,
Hopefully xbox 720 will have a in-built kinect, in the form of it snaps out of the system, the price can't be that high even with this...

I see a lot of problems with this idea.
You would need to put the Kinect on top of your TV then.
And it will be big and heavy.
And the motor which rotates it, will need to be bigger and stronger.
And the hackers who just want the Kinect will need to buy the whole thing.
And the price will get higher(+ $149).
And the detachable Kinect would be a hassle and would not look good.
And since there will be Windows integration in it, it should be a stand-alone product.

So I don't think they will do it.

SteelToast said,
Hopefully xbox 720 will have a in-built kinect, in the form of it snaps out of the system, the price can't be that high even with this...

interesting to say the least...
But kinect as it is now is probobly the best way to have it..
Kinect has rules/regulations to where you should stick it. The console - not so much.
I want freedom to put my big bulky console wherever, with kinect im forced to stick it ontop or below my big screen.

FMH said,

I see a lot of problems with this idea.
You would need to put the Kinect on top of your TV then.
And it will be big and heavy.
And the motor which rotates it, will need to be bigger and stronger.
And the hackers who just want the Kinect will need to buy the whole thing.
And the price will get higher(+ $149).
And the detachable Kinect would be a hassle and would not look good.
And since there will be Windows integration in it, it should be a stand-alone product.

So I don't think they will do it.

Probably, but at least a stand so the kinect can attach onto the xbox as opposed to more wiring ... like how the 3DS has a charging dock, something like that, where the dock is xbox...

SteelToast said,

Probably, but at least a stand so the kinect can attach onto the xbox as opposed to more wiring ... like how the 3DS has a charging dock, something like that, where the dock is xbox...

Could happen. But something even better would be Wireless Kinect. It would only have a power cable.

FMH said,

Could happen. But something even better would be Wireless Kinect. It would only have a power cable.

That's actually what I was just going to say, so you beat me to it. I don't know if they'll do that, but it would definitely be nice. Regardless, I do not think that Kinect will be built into the console, but rather in the package... I think technologically it needs to be separate from the console...

M_Lyons10 said,

That's actually what I was just going to say, so you beat me to it. I don't know if they'll do that, but it would definitely be nice. Regardless, I do not think that Kinect will be built into the console, but rather in the package... I think technologically it needs to be separate from the console...

Where's my medal?
And I think it would add minute lag. You could say that Wireless Mouse doesn't show any lag, but Kinect sends way more data than a mouse. It would need to send real-time footage from the camera, and also the 3D dotted vision. And also the data it processed from these two things( skeletal structure and such)

FMH said,
Where's my medal?
And I think it would add minute lag. You could say that Wireless Mouse doesn't show any lag, but Kinect sends way more data than a mouse. It would need to send real-time footage from the camera, and also the 3D dotted vision. And also the data it processed from these two things( skeletal structure and such)

then you could bet they would use something like Wireless 802.11ac
which is capable of 6Gbit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac

Working since 2006? Heh. I hope specs are good, and that they bring full codecs availability, even though it requires extra $$$ to get them.

Jose_49 said,
Working since 2006? Heh. I hope specs are good, and that they bring full codecs availability, even though it requires extra $$ to get them.

Maybe the 2006 project for this might be launch titles, general design, UI, not the exact specs, anything with ATI 69xx is good, with an Intel Processor. (sandy bridge?)

SteelToast said,

Maybe the 2006 project for this might be launch titles, general design, UI, not the exact specs, anything with ATI 69xx is good, with an Intel Processor. (sandy bridge?)

Hope it's Ivy Bride and AMD 79XX.
.
But yeah, it intrigues me, to see the new console design and the new controller (if there's one, which I hope it is not)

Jose_49 said,

Hope it's Ivy Bride and AMD 79XX.
.
But yeah, it intrigues me, to see the new console design and the new controller (if there's one, which I hope it is not)

controller is of this gen xbox is good to go for the next gen, unless ms wants it Wii U style..., very excited about the console design though because I hope it is slimmer and smaller than the slim, and it has some sort of bluetooth compatibity...

SteelToast said,

controller is of this gen xbox is good to go for the next gen, unless ms wants it Wii U style..., very excited about the console design though because I hope it is slimmer and smaller than the slim, and it has some sort of bluetooth compatibity...

Yeah, the controller for the 360 is really great. I can't think of much I would change there.

SteelToast said,

Maybe the 2006 project for this might be launch titles, general design, UI, not the exact specs, anything with ATI 69xx is good, with an Intel Processor. (sandy bridge?)

why in gods name would you want an intel processor? Do you know anything about cpu architectures?

SteelToast said,

Maybe the 2006 project for this might be launch titles, general design, UI, not the exact specs, anything with ATI 69xx is good, with an Intel Processor. (sandy bridge?)

If they don't use a PPC processor then it'd be extremely tedious to write an emulator for both Xbox 1 (if they choose to support it, which I hope they do) and Xbox 360 backwards compatibility.

M_Lyons10 said,

Yeah, the controller for the 360 is really great. I can't think of much I would change there.

The dpad is terrible. They should make the rotating dpad standard. They got it patented after all, why not keep making it...

Jaybonaut said,

The dpad is terrible. They should make the rotating dpad standard. They got it patented after all, why not keep making it...


Agreed. Having a disc based D-Pad is uncomfortable as hell, although it shouldn't be.

CLK G said,

If they don't use a PPC processor then it'd be extremely tedious to write an emulator for both Xbox 1 (if they choose to support it, which I hope they do) and Xbox 360 backwards compatibility.

Not so much, with the power in general hardware today, and Microsoft's experience in doing translation and emulation since the late 80s, this would be the least of their concerns.

If Microsoft can demonstrate Windows 8 running on an ARM processor that is the same speed as the iPAd 2, and also show it running Word and Excel and Photoshop, at amazing speeds that Apple would kill to get even out of their native Numbers spreadsheet, I really don't think they would give it a second thought, especially when they could easily produce a secondary translation chip at a fraction of the cost of the current XBox 360 GPU/CPU.

M_Lyons10 said,

Yeah, the controller for the 360 is really great. I can't think of much I would change there.

I would change two things. The D pad, and the axis of the analogue sticks.

The analogue stick axis should be offset to be more natural with the direction you are hold the controller.

I hope Kinect 2 is not tied with Xbox, and it comes before it. Kinect should be upgraded earlier and frequently so.

FMH said,
I hope Kinect 2 is not tied with Xbox, and it comes before it. Kinect should be upgraded earlier and frequently so.

I honestly, don't think it makes sense to upgrade the Kinect hardware all that frequently. The software is one thing, but what happens when they upgrade the Kinect hardware outside of a console release and games try to take advantage of these new features (Which aren't supported in the prior hardware revision)? It just wouldn't make any sense. I expect Kinect to be built into the next XBox, and for that to be the next hardware revision we're gonna see.

M_Lyons10 said,
I expect Kinect to be built into the next XBox, and for that to be the next hardware revision we're gonna see.

Why would they built it into the xbox? I'm guess selling them seperatly makes more money and keeps the console cheap.

But like FMH said, I really hope that Kinect doesn't get 'upgraded' so I need to purchase another Kinect. If so, i'm not going for it. I've paid enough for the Kinect and I want to see really good games before I'll ever will purchase one again.

What I personally think is that in some way we get a different cable for the kinect, or something to plugin to it's usb port what makes the connection much faster (like overclocking) if thats possible. So new games on a new console will have a better resolution / recognition compared to the 360.

But I look forward to a new console annouchement. (Xbox Universe??). Unless Sega comes with the Dreamcast 2, i'm sold!